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[alexISS]

No it's still Greece's fault because it did orchestrate the coup thus placing Sampson in charge for 5 days.

In the same manner the CIA placed the Greek Junta in charge

The only thing left for Greece now is to take responsibility for it's actions.

Nice try, but you can do a bit better than that....

She did fine. It's the same case: Cyprus and Greece were both ruled by imposed and incompetent dictators, so they equally share the responsibility for what happened next (unless ofcourse you take into account the fact that Sampson was a member of the Parliament before the coup, which makes him a "semi-elected" dictator)

[Paphitis]

That's like saying Germany was not responsible for WW11 because Hitler was an illegal dictatorship....

There is only one way Greece can redeem itself! Now stop making excuses for your cowardice and start taking responsibility for your actions...

Paphitis what's wrong with you? Hitler was not an "illegal dictator", he was the elected Chancellor of Germany and that's why there IS collective responsibility for the WW2 crimes

The last election was in 1934 if I'm not mistaken. So his mandate should have elapsed by 1939.

Now was the Japanese Emperor also elected?

[Paphitis]

That's like saying Germany was not responsible for WW11 because Hitler was an illegal dictatorship....

There is only one way Greece can redeem itself! Now stop making excuses for your cowardice and start taking responsibility for your actions...

Paphitis what's wrong with you? Hitler was not an "illegal dictator", he was the elected Chancellor of Germany and that's why there IS collective responsibility for the WW2 crimes

The last election was in 1934 if I'm not mistaken. So his mandate should have elapsed by 1939.

Now was the Japanese Emperor also elected?

[wyoming cowboy]

Its high time to realize that the events of 74 were being planned in 67 when papaandreous government was overthrown by the cia nato backed general in papadopoulous....There were 15000 well armed troops in cyprus placed there by papandreou, the first order of business for the junta was to remove these troops on orders from the usa....the junta was adamant against makarios, in 71 grivas is sent in to create eoka b, for the purpose of overthrowing makarios, they failed up to the point where the officers took matters in their own hands and overthrew makarios, placed sampson as puppet president, turkey is given the green light to invade and occupy 37 percent of the island, the junta is overthrown in greece, for its inactions in cyprus, hence turkey usa uk nato cia are all happy, MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.........

[YFred]

The only reason the Greek legal team is there is to evaluate Trukeys proposal of permanent derogations regarding a cap on Greek citizens living in Cyprus.

Practically not an issue since neither Greeks nor Cypriots have any desire to live in the same island, theoretically however a nightmare since this would discriminate Greek citizens from other EU citizens allowed to remain on the island.

Hence, the Greek legal team. Made to figure out how the f*** to accomodate Turkey.

Interesting spin you got there and the GC lawyers could not work that one out. You need the Greek lawyers to explain it?
Pull the other one. It's all about speeding the process up. They just don't have the time know to go back and for and do it by April.

Cyprus can't decide on its own what Greek citizens are allowed to do in the EU. We're 2 separate countries old boy, what what.

Now listen here old chap. If Cyprus can't decide then how can Greece do it? Surely a GC eu law specialist is as good as another. Why don't you admit reality. The two muhtars cannot so much as scratch their bums without the interference from the mother country. Now, it's amazing how good that feels when one actually says it, what?
Now repeat after me.

[YFred]

Its high time to realize that the events of 74 were being planned in 67 when papaandreous government was overthrown by the cia nato backed general in papadopoulous....There were 15000 well armed troops in cyprus placed there by papandreou, the first order of business for the junta was to remove these troops on orders from the usa....the junta was adamant against makarios, in 71 grivas is sent in to create eoka b, for the purpose of overthrowing makarios, they failed up to the point where the officers took matters in their own hands and overthrew makarios, placed sampson as puppet president, turkey is given the green light to invade and occupy 37 percent of the island, the junta is overthrown in greece, for its inactions in cyprus, hence turkey usa uk nato cia are all happy, MISSION ACCOMPLISHED.........

I say yanke boy, now which clause of the constitution allowed greece to keep 15000 soldier on cyprus soil? Or is roc not so just after all.

Mission not quite accomplished yet old chap. Not all players in this scenario of yours are happy. Perhaps for this chapter to close, another little war can be engineered so that the GCs have something to lose and lets see if this time they brake the 100 meter record in running to the table to sign the peace agreement.
Then the mission will be accomplished, what?

[Nikitas]

What is all the fuss about? There were always legal experts from both Greece and Turkey involved in talks in the past. In 1973, when we did reach an agreed text for a settlement between Clerides and Denktash the Greek constitutional lawyer and judge Mihalis Dekleris was advising both sides, as were Turkish jurists.

And in case some people here forget, Greece is one of the guarantor nations and has a right to get involved, some might even say a duty.

[paliometoxo]

and north cyprus has NO say the cyprus problem has always basically been with turkey and cyprus and tcs where just the pawns the puppets that turkey moves while pretending to be in the background..

[boulio]

What is all the fuss about? There were always legal experts from both Greece and Turkey involved in talks in the past. In 1973, when we did reach an agreed text for a settlement between Clerides and Denktash the Greek constitutional lawyer and judge Mihalis Dekleris was advising both sides, as were Turkish jurists

I have read about this nikitas as well there was a agreement between Dekleris and a turkish lawyer on july 13,th 1974 two days before the junta action in cyprus,do you have any info on the agreement?

[Get Real!]

And in case some people here forget, Greece is one of the guarantor nations and has a right to get involved, some might even say a duty.

Ate re Nikita bareta mas...