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Orams lose appeal.. who is suprized?

Postby paliometoxo » Tue Jan 19, 2010 4:43 pm

LONDON - Linda and David Orams have lost their fight to hold onto land belonging to a Greek Cypriot refugee in the occupied North upon which they had built a luxury villa.

A Cyprus court had ordered them to get off the land, demolish the villa and pay compensation to the owner Meletis Apostolides.

The owner had moved to register and enforce the finding in Britain and the Orams had been fighting this.

Previously the High Court had said they could not try the case for jurisdictional reasons and Apostolides appealed. The Appeals Court sought guidance from the European Court of Justice in Luxembourg which decided that the British court should make a ruling.


The Appeal Court in London decided in Apostolides's favour Monday.

The judgment has determined in a final way that the legal rights of displaced Cypriots against trespassers, as determined by the Courts of the Republic of Cyprus, can be enforced in the United Kingdom.
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Re: Orams lose appeal.. who is suprized?

Postby EPSILON » Tue Jan 19, 2010 5:10 pm

paliometoxo wrote:LONDON - Linda and David Orams have lost their fight to hold onto land belonging to a Greek Cypriot refugee in the occupied North upon which they had built a luxury villa.

A Cyprus court had ordered them to get off the land, demolish the villa and pay compensation to the owner Meletis Apostolides.

The owner had moved to register and enforce the finding in Britain and the Orams had been fighting this.

Previously the High Court had said they could not try the case for jurisdictional reasons and Apostolides appealed. The Appeals Court sought guidance from the European Court of Justice in Luxembourg which decided that the British court should make a ruling.


The Appeal Court in London decided in Apostolides's favour Monday.

The judgment has determined in a final way that the legal rights of displaced Cypriots against trespassers, as determined by the Courts of the Republic of Cyprus, can be enforced in the United Kingdom.


GIVING THEORITICAL JUSTICE TO g/CS , SOMEONE CAN NOT SOLVE THE real CB.OK/ Decision creating economical problems (propably) to:TRNC"So what? I feel we have lost our target here. We are deeling with phychological science than the CB itselve.

Whenever we apply to a foreign legal body to justify our rights we are just loosing our control of our own land, our own country.

We are just giving poits to Annan plans.

I t is clearly understood, after so many years of stupid negotiations with the invator and its representative in Cypreus (Turkish army and T/cs that we, G/cs have only two options. Either to declare our country as a victim of an invasion/occupation and demand / fight for our FULL rights or continue negotiating with the invators and its people in Cyprus, resulting the official results of the invasion to be the status within the next years.

Without be fanatic, without oversestimate our powrer in this case , we must stuck on one basic factor. We are the owners of this Island and , in ourtimes, human rights have bigger power than the arms.

Who is want to be a member of the civilized World must accept our rights, otherwise we must convist the World that we are under occupation of terrorists and request the necessary help/
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Postby paliometoxo » Tue Jan 19, 2010 5:20 pm

Yes But e4ilon.. who is going to enforce the rules in the north made by the gc courts? the turks can simply laugh and say shut up and there is nothing we can do.. unfortunately they outnumber us by millions, and the only real way to get justice is by eu or other courts to enforce the rules.

at least this way we are showing the foreigners and turks they cant get away with buying stolen land or selling it just because its slightly cheaper

Who is want to be a member of the civilized World must accept our rights, otherwise we must convist the World that we are under occupation of terrorists and request the necessary help


we are and the world can see this which is why they do not recognise the invaded north. its just no one is willing to force them out they want to stand by and try help there be peace without guns.
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Postby humanist » Wed Jan 20, 2010 2:35 pm

ouch say the carpet baggers ;)
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Postby denizaksulu » Wed Jan 20, 2010 2:42 pm

paliometoxo wrote:Yes But e4ilon.. who is going to enforce the rules in the north made by the gc courts? the turks can simply laugh and say shut up and there is nothing we can do.. unfortunately they outnumber us by millions, and the only real way to get justice is by eu or other courts to enforce the rules.

at least this way we are showing the foreigners and turks they cant get away with buying stolen land or selling it just because its slightly cheaper

Who is want to be a member of the civilized World must accept our rights, otherwise we must convist the World that we are under occupation of terrorists and request the necessary help


we are and the world can see this which is why they do not recognise the invaded north. its just no one is willing to force them out they want to stand by and try help there be peace without guns.



Assets of these people will be siezed by courts in the UK.
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Postby humanist » Wed Jan 20, 2010 2:50 pm

Deniz .... hello

What if they relinquish the house in Lapithos, do they still loose their assets in the UK?

I kinda feel for the f----s I gotta say......... hope they take the thief who sold it to them to court now, that would be real justice ;)
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Postby denizaksulu » Wed Jan 20, 2010 2:55 pm

humanist wrote:Deniz .... hello

What if they relinquish the house in Lapithos, do they still loose their assets in the UK?

I kinda feel for the f----s I gotta say......... hope they take the thief who sold it to them to court now, that would be real justice ;)



The real thieves are those at the top. A 'myopic' bunch if there were ever any.

They were gullible. There were some in the 'know'. They cant have all been shtoopid!

Sue the developers too - if you can find them.

And hello Humanist. :lol: I love Justice. Justice for ALL>
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Postby karma » Wed Jan 20, 2010 3:28 pm

dedicated to Orams :cry:

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Postby CBBB » Wed Jan 20, 2010 3:36 pm

humanist wrote:Deniz .... hello

What if they relinquish the house in Lapithos, do they still loose their assets in the UK?

I kinda feel for the f----s I gotta say......... hope they take the thief who sold it to them to court now, that would be real justice ;)


Even if they demolish the house they built and leave the land vacant, they still have to pay for the use of it for however many years they were there, and pay all the court costs of Mr Apostolides, which are rather large!

So the answer to your question is probably yes!
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Postby Hermes » Wed Jan 20, 2010 4:05 pm

Cyprus44 forum is still down. Have all the carpetbaggers committed suicide? Fled the country? I want a laugh but they have vanished off the face of the earth...
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