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Postby -mikkie2- » Thu Jan 21, 2010 2:23 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
-mikkie2- wrote:One is a democracy and the other is a dictatorship that is dictated to by Turkey!



WRONG. The other is also a 'Democracy', .... DICTATED by Turkey. :lol:


Yes, I think that is a more apt description!
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Postby B25 » Thu Jan 21, 2010 3:16 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
-mikkie2- wrote:One is a democracy and the other is a dictatorship that is dictated to by Turkey!



WRONG. The other is also a 'Democracy', .... DICTATED by Turkey. :lol:

WRONG AGAIN - The other is also a 'Pseudo Democracy', .... DICTATED by Turkey :lol:
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Postby miltiades » Thu Jan 21, 2010 4:20 pm

YFred wrote:
miltiades wrote:
YFred wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
-mikkie2- wrote:One is a democracy and the other is a dictatorship that is dictated to by Turkey!



WRONG. The other is also a 'Democracy', .... DICTATED by Turkey. :lol:

Isn't the real meaning of democracy a 5 year dictatorship? who is kidding who here?

Fred , it is commendable that you put up such a spirited defense of the indefensible , however living in a fools paradise does have its "sell by date" , and frankly you must admit that it has now arrived.

What has? do you mean that the cyprus problem will be solved in the courts?

Why not Fred ?
More than a year ago we had a fierce debate on this very forum in response to a post by my ...dear friend GR , supported by the salubrious Oracle , or is it salacious , what ever and also supported by Paphitis amongst others.
I challenged with more more than sufficient ferociousness the option of war as advocated by the so terribly naive supporters of this option maintaining that the only war worth fighting for was and still is the political war . I now request that the aforementioned individuals send me a PM recognizing the errors of their way.
This victory is one to be shared by all Cypriots not only the G/Cs because it is a victory of justice and fairness , a victory that ensures the sovereignty of the RoC OVER ALL OF CYPRUS .
The RoC has great deal to do if indeed it is genuine about wanting a solution to the Cyprob , not least in abolishing the Greek flag from our government buildings. I was appaled to see that the Limassol Council acts contrary to the stated position of our foreign policies in that all of Cyprus represents all of Cypriots not just the G/Cs.
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Postby YFred » Thu Jan 21, 2010 5:27 pm

miltiades wrote:
YFred wrote:
miltiades wrote:
YFred wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
-mikkie2- wrote:One is a democracy and the other is a dictatorship that is dictated to by Turkey!



WRONG. The other is also a 'Democracy', .... DICTATED by Turkey. :lol:

Isn't the real meaning of democracy a 5 year dictatorship? who is kidding who here?

Fred , it is commendable that you put up such a spirited defense of the indefensible , however living in a fools paradise does have its "sell by date" , and frankly you must admit that it has now arrived.

What has? do you mean that the cyprus problem will be solved in the courts?

Why not Fred ?
More than a year ago we had a fierce debate on this very forum in response to a post by my ...dear friend GR , supported by the salubrious Oracle , or is it salacious , what ever and also supported by Paphitis amongst others.
I challenged with more more than sufficient ferociousness the option of war as advocated by the so terribly naive supporters of this option maintaining that the only war worth fighting for was and still is the political war . I now request that the aforementioned individuals send me a PM recognizing the errors of their way.
This victory is one to be shared by all Cypriots not only the G/Cs because it is a victory of justice and fairness , a victory that ensures the sovereignty of the RoC OVER ALL OF CYPRUS .
The RoC has great deal to do if indeed it is genuine about wanting a solution to the Cyprob , not least in abolishing the Greek flag from our government buildings. I was appaled to see that the Limassol Council acts contrary to the stated position of our foreign policies in that all of Cyprus represents all of Cypriots not just the G/Cs.

I would agree with you 100% if only and I mean If only the roc treated all applications the same TC and GC. But no such luck I am afraid. All TCs get is delaying tactics with paper work and then finally wait until the peace agreement.
Which ever way you look at it, it stinks.
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Postby Jerry » Thu Jan 21, 2010 6:12 pm

YFred wrote:
miltiades wrote:
YFred wrote:
miltiades wrote:
YFred wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
-mikkie2- wrote:One is a democracy and the other is a dictatorship that is dictated to by Turkey!



WRONG. The other is also a 'Democracy', .... DICTATED by Turkey. :lol:

Isn't the real meaning of democracy a 5 year dictatorship? who is kidding who here?

Fred , it is commendable that you put up such a spirited defense of the indefensible , however living in a fools paradise does have its "sell by date" , and frankly you must admit that it has now arrived.

What has? do you mean that the cyprus problem will be solved in the courts?

Why not Fred ?
More than a year ago we had a fierce debate on this very forum in response to a post by my ...dear friend GR , supported by the salubrious Oracle , or is it salacious , what ever and also supported by Paphitis amongst others.
I challenged with more more than sufficient ferociousness the option of war as advocated by the so terribly naive supporters of this option maintaining that the only war worth fighting for was and still is the political war . I now request that the aforementioned individuals send me a PM recognizing the errors of their way.
This victory is one to be shared by all Cypriots not only the G/Cs because it is a victory of justice and fairness , a victory that ensures the sovereignty of the RoC OVER ALL OF CYPRUS .
The RoC has great deal to do if indeed it is genuine about wanting a solution to the Cyprob , not least in abolishing the Greek flag from our government buildings. I was appaled to see that the Limassol Council acts contrary to the stated position of our foreign policies in that all of Cyprus represents all of Cypriots not just the G/Cs.

I would agree with you 100% if only and I mean If only the roc treated all applications the same TC and GC. But no such luck I am afraid. All TCs get is delaying tactics with paper work and then finally wait until the peace agreement.
Which ever way you look at it, it stinks.


Then you should complain to the ECHR. Find out who your Euro MP is and ask him for help. ALL Cypriots are entitled to justice.
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Postby miltiades » Thu Jan 21, 2010 6:22 pm

YFred wrote:
miltiades wrote:
YFred wrote:
miltiades wrote:
YFred wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
-mikkie2- wrote:One is a democracy and the other is a dictatorship that is dictated to by Turkey!



WRONG. The other is also a 'Democracy', .... DICTATED by Turkey. :lol:

Isn't the real meaning of democracy a 5 year dictatorship? who is kidding who here?

Fred , it is commendable that you put up such a spirited defense of the indefensible , however living in a fools paradise does have its "sell by date" , and frankly you must admit that it has now arrived.

What has? do you mean that the cyprus problem will be solved in the courts?

Why not Fred ?
More than a year ago we had a fierce debate on this very forum in response to a post by my ...dear friend GR , supported by the salubrious Oracle , or is it salacious , what ever and also supported by Paphitis amongst others.
I challenged with more more than sufficient ferociousness the option of war as advocated by the so terribly naive supporters of this option maintaining that the only war worth fighting for was and still is the political war . I now request that the aforementioned individuals send me a PM recognizing the errors of their way.
This victory is one to be shared by all Cypriots not only the G/Cs because it is a victory of justice and fairness , a victory that ensures the sovereignty of the RoC OVER ALL OF CYPRUS .
The RoC has great deal to do if indeed it is genuine about wanting a solution to the Cyprob , not least in abolishing the Greek flag from our government buildings. I was appaled to see that the Limassol Council acts contrary to the stated position of our foreign policies in that all of Cyprus represents all of Cypriots not just the G/Cs.

I would agree with you 100% if only and I mean If only the roc treated all applications the same TC and GC. But no such luck I am afraid. All TCs get is delaying tactics with paper work and then finally wait until the peace agreement.
Which ever way you look at it, it stinks.

Fred , there are many areas that need close scrutiny by the RoC in order to streamline the machinery required in dealing with all Cypriot citizens fairly and without any prejudice . There are as you know political necessities that have to be ironed out , one of them being the length of time required by a T/C living in the RoC before acquiring his land / property.
I think that the "probationary " period of six months is fair and proper given the circumstances as dictated by the political atmosphere in Cyprus.
The fact that the T/C land remains "deeded " to the original legal owner must be taken into account by you Fred .
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Postby YFred » Thu Jan 21, 2010 6:31 pm

miltiades wrote:
YFred wrote:
miltiades wrote:
YFred wrote:
miltiades wrote:
YFred wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
-mikkie2- wrote:One is a democracy and the other is a dictatorship that is dictated to by Turkey!



WRONG. The other is also a 'Democracy', .... DICTATED by Turkey. :lol:

Isn't the real meaning of democracy a 5 year dictatorship? who is kidding who here?

Fred , it is commendable that you put up such a spirited defense of the indefensible , however living in a fools paradise does have its "sell by date" , and frankly you must admit that it has now arrived.

What has? do you mean that the cyprus problem will be solved in the courts?

Why not Fred ?
More than a year ago we had a fierce debate on this very forum in response to a post by my ...dear friend GR , supported by the salubrious Oracle , or is it salacious , what ever and also supported by Paphitis amongst others.
I challenged with more more than sufficient ferociousness the option of war as advocated by the so terribly naive supporters of this option maintaining that the only war worth fighting for was and still is the political war . I now request that the aforementioned individuals send me a PM recognizing the errors of their way.
This victory is one to be shared by all Cypriots not only the G/Cs because it is a victory of justice and fairness , a victory that ensures the sovereignty of the RoC OVER ALL OF CYPRUS .
The RoC has great deal to do if indeed it is genuine about wanting a solution to the Cyprob , not least in abolishing the Greek flag from our government buildings. I was appaled to see that the Limassol Council acts contrary to the stated position of our foreign policies in that all of Cyprus represents all of Cypriots not just the G/Cs.

I would agree with you 100% if only and I mean If only the roc treated all applications the same TC and GC. But no such luck I am afraid. All TCs get is delaying tactics with paper work and then finally wait until the peace agreement.
Which ever way you look at it, it stinks.

Fred , there are many areas that need close scrutiny by the RoC in order to streamline the machinery required in dealing with all Cypriot citizens fairly and without any prejudice . There are as you know political necessities that have to be ironed out , one of them being the length of time required by a T/C living in the RoC before acquiring his land / property.
I think that the "probationary " period of six months is fair and proper given the circumstances as dictated by the political atmosphere in Cyprus.
The fact that the T/C land remains "deeded " to the original legal owner must be taken into account by you Fred .

Milti, how do you expect people to leave their livelyhood and home and move to the south for 6 months before being able to claim their property. You are missing the real point. It is impossible for most people. How will they live? Where will they stay? what about the roc tc citizens who live in the eu and can get no joy either.

Or is this one of DT's ploys so he can employ them as gardners to cut his grass while they can live in his shed.
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Thu Jan 21, 2010 6:37 pm

OK justice has prevailed. That's good news. I think everyone agrees to that.


What would the Gcs do regarding the properties if they were in the shoes of TCs after 1974.
Honest answers please. :wink:
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Postby boulio » Thu Jan 21, 2010 6:40 pm

What would the Gcs do regarding the properties if they were in the shoes of TCs after 1974.
Honest answers please.


Try and come to a resolution and restore there place in the republic
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Thu Jan 21, 2010 6:46 pm

I will start myself:
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