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[bill cobbett]

Well lets see if he is able to sleep in that property one night before the celebration begin if you please Mr Herpes.

This is the sort of comment that makes me think that no one really believes that anyone was acting within the law or reasonably when they sold off property belonging to others. But rather that they were relying on the rightful owners just being too scared to return and claim it.

Yes quite right Gasman/Gaswoman, endured similar hiding under the skirts of the TA, threats for decades.

[Me Ed]

When the facts are laid bare for all to see, there was only one conclusion.

The TCs what to politicise this, but at the end of the day, the rightful owner stands vindicated.

This should not represent a souring of the talks, but set the parameters for the Turks when negotiating property rights.

OK, I understand on the international stage this is a major blow to the "hard done by" TCs.

But the TCs must realise, like the GCs, all Cypriots are victims of Turkish policy.

[bill cobbett]

If you chaps/chapesses have finished with Stavros, allow me to put the case for how this judgment might be seen as a "victory for all cys".

It isn't an attempt to cripple the Tnucland economy. It's about making a settlement based on principles easier.

We've heard Mr C say time and time again and he reminded us yesterday, that this was about stopping the "sale" of land in ways that were muddying the property issue. If it wasn't a policy of the Illegal Regime to encourage these dodgy sales, then they took no action to stop it. They knew damned well that by allowing the "sales" (to all except those of grissy descent) they could swing the property issue their way. Time and time again, in the last year or so, we have heard Unofficial Muhtar Talat say primacy in a settlement should go to the current "user" of property, which presumably would also have included the current users who are Illegal Settlers. A two-pronged attempt to confuse the property issue, sell off to Ex-pat Brits and others and at the same time ship in Illegal Settlers and give them grissy houses for past services rendered to Turkey.

Naturally those who benefitted most from these "sales", as in so
many other areas, were the usual suspects of the Illegal Regime. So it isn't so much the "economy" of ordinary moral tissies that is attacked by this judgment, but the lining of pockets and Swiss Bank Accounts of the Illegal Regime that is under attack.

So it's a judgment that makes a settlement on property easier cos for the first time in decades normal laws have started to return to the Occupied North, the self-imposed Isolation is starting to crack. The parameters on which property will be settled ON BOTH SIDES of the cease-fire line have been drawn.

[BirKibrisli]

This thread is fast becoming "lets kick the shit out of YFred" thread...
And in the person of YFed,lets see how much we can insult the whole TC community and Turkey,thread..

I understand that some of you need to boost your "self esteem and dignity" as one forumer put it,but that should not be at the expense of other people's self esteem and dignity....SHOULD IT???

[bill cobbett]

This thread is fast becoming "lets kick the shit out of YFred" thread...
And in the person of YFed,lets see how much we can insult the whole TC community and Turkey,thread..

I understand that some of you need to boost your "self esteem and dignity" as one forumer put it,but that should not be at the expense of other people's self esteem and dignity....SHOULD IT???

It wasn't me guv. Honest.

[boulio]

This thread is fast becoming "lets kick the shit out of YFred" thread...
And in the person of YFed,lets see how much we can insult the whole TC community and Turkey,thread..

I understand that some of you need to boost your "self esteem and dignity" as one forumer put it,but that should not be at the expense of other people's self esteem and dignity....SHOULD IT???

here we go again,Turkey needs to be prosecuted and so do the t/c that benefited on the sale(illegal may i add)of property that does not belong to them.Nobady is boosting there self esteem and dignity there just getting it back.

[BirKibrisli]

This thread is fast becoming "lets kick the shit out of YFred" thread...
And in the person of YFed,lets see how much we can insult the whole TC community and Turkey,thread..

I understand that some of you need to boost your "self esteem and dignity" as one forumer put it,but that should not be at the expense of other people's self esteem and dignity....SHOULD IT???

It wasn't me guv. Honest.

So it's a judgment that makes a settlement on property easier cos for the first time in decades normal laws have started to return to the Occupied North, the self-imposed Isolation is starting to crack. The parameters on which property will be settled ON BOTH SIDES of the cease-fire line have been drawn.

Sory Bill,I cannot absolve you...
Your cracks are showing too...
Try reducing Cyprus problem to one of "occupation" and insist that the TC isolation is "self-imposed" and I will call you deluded and historical revisionary with the best of them...You are not helping ...You are part of the problem with statements like that...Time for you all to face it...

[Cyp1981]

what was the reason of trksh army's invasion and occupation? I think instead of trying to adress who is in fault since then (74) we should judge ourselves first.. As a Trksh speaking Cypriot myself i never liked the fact that i had to grew up under occupied area and go to school who washes your brain constantly... But come on we are the ones who did this to ourselves... So instead of fighting like a dog and a cat we should try to find ways together for peaceful Cyprus... By the way result of orams case was fair but lets hope its gonna make things better...

[BirKibrisli]

what was the reason of trksh army's invasion and occupation? I think instead of trying to adress who is in fault since then (74) we should judge ourselves first.. As a Trksh speaking Cypriot myself i never liked the fact that i had to grew up under occupied area and go to school who washes your brain constantly... But come on we are the ones who did this to ourselves... So instead of fighting like a dog and a cat we should try to find ways together for peaceful Cyprus... By the way result of orams case was fair but lets hope its gonna make things better...

Welcome to the forum,Cyp1981...
Why don't you tell us what you think the reasons were for Turkey's invasion and occupation??? We have been discussing it here for years now..You are the newcomer...You tell us first...

[Cyp1981]

To be honest i dont think im the best person to answer this question. Being born after 74, i only learned the history from scholl books and elders.. But i think i heard the story from one point of view... With all respect i really like to know more about the story from both parties who acctually lived it... So really it wasnt 100% sarcastic question. However i guess it wasnt one side's fault..