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[Hermes]

I've been saying that ever since I've been on this forum. This case was never about property of one man. It was an attack on the TRNC economy. Which is when one begins to fear. Because you put one in a corner where there is no alternative and he will resort to the only option left.

If the "TRNC" economy is so dependent on selling stolen property might I suggest you find more legal ways to earn a living...

I promise you we will as soon as we are allowed to but in the mean time we will use everything at disposal, honest.

Not this excuse. You mean you turned to crime because you had no choice? I'm afraid that doesn't go down too well in front of most judges.

[bill cobbett]

I've been saying that ever since I've been on this forum. This case was never about property of one man. It was an attack on the TRNC economy. Which is when one begins to fear. Because you put one in a corner where there is no alternative and he will resort to the only option left.

If the "TRNC" economy is so dependent on selling stolen property might I suggest you find more legal ways to earn a living...

I promise you we will as soon as we are allowed to but in the mean time we will use everything at disposal, honest.

No it isn't about hitting the Tnucland economy or stopping our tissy friends making a living.

You don't get it yet? It's been a victory for all CYs.

Sorry Hermes, after you ... thought you were done ....

[YFred]

I've been saying that ever since I've been on this forum. This case was never about property of one man. It was an attack on the TRNC economy. Which is when one begins to fear. Because you put one in a corner where there is no alternative and he will resort to the only option left.

If the "TRNC" economy is so dependent on selling stolen property might I suggest you find more legal ways to earn a living...

I promise you we will as soon as we are allowed to but in the mean time we will use everything at disposal, honest.

Not this excuse. You mean you turned to crime because you had no choice? I'm afraid that doesn't go down too well in front of most judges.

Well the other day we had a priest advising people that have to steal, to steal from big stores not small corner shops. If it's good enough for an Anglican church it's good enough for everyone else.
You still do not get it. If the roc holds on to tc property in the south the tcs can do what ever they like in the north. It's not an excuse. It is a factual necessity. If roc was not able to trade with the world, I wonder how they would view the tc properties in the south, not that I don't consider them stolen anyway.
Let he with no sin cast the first stone.

[YFred]

I've been saying that ever since I've been on this forum. This case was never about property of one man. It was an attack on the TRNC economy. Which is when one begins to fear. Because you put one in a corner where there is no alternative and he will resort to the only option left.

If the "TRNC" economy is so dependent on selling stolen property might I suggest you find more legal ways to earn a living...

I promise you we will as soon as we are allowed to but in the mean time we will use everything at disposal, honest.

No it isn't about hitting the Tnucland economy or stopping our tissy friends making a living.

You don't get it yet? It's been a victory for all CYs.

Sorry Hermes, after you ... thought you were done ....

Now that I have seen your picture, you look as naive as you sound.
Sorry bill.
While the roc judges are blocking TC claims and putting forward GC claims, it sounds mighty cosy.

[boomerang]

I've been saying that ever since I've been on this forum.

yeah you have been saying a lot of things since you joined the forum knucklehead...but doubt very much anyone takes you seriously, but for the comic relief...what?...

Bill, read the judgment carefully, it is not a political judgment and there are no political remedies in it. In fact the Orams look as though they will use this aspect to defeat it. Stop kidding yourself and others that in some way this is a tool for the GC government to use to beat anyone with. It’s a stick made of candy mate, like the Brighton rock.

Were you not telling us few weeks ago that the ECJ ruling was a "political judgement" therefore it should be refused by the British Courts, but now you are saying it is NOT a Political Judgement. Glad that you have seen the LIGHT.! As for the Orams, they have even less chance of overturning the ECJ judgement if it was not a Political one, which it was not..........directly !.

Nice one, YFred.!

No Milt, UK government can authorise the court to ignore the judgement from the EU on the grounds that it is a political trial, which it is.

a great day indeed and justice surely is prevailing...



Pyro, pleasure in seeing you back...

[Jerry]

A quote from the report in Famagusta Gazette: -

He described the decision as “unfair” and alleged that it ignored the realities and proved once more that the Turkish Cypriots should trust their “motherland” Turkey.

Translation : -

We will ignore laws that we don't like, take by force and keep whatever Turkey can grab for us by armed force.

A lawless unprincipled regime has been created in the north.

[Malapapa]

The only way to deal with a bully like Turkey is to raise one's self esteem and dignity. This gives one the inner strength to develop a clear strategy to overcome his threats and intimidation. The cowardly way is to give in to his unreasonable demands, because one fears how he'll react. The cowardly way is live under the bully's shadow forever.

BirKibrisli's way is the cowardly way.

I would call it the only realistic way...Any solution to Cyprob will have to be a compromise...

The leaders can compromise on certain issues, sure, but no individual should have to compromise on their fundamental human rights. There are laws preventing this and they will be applied.

If you believe calling your interlocutor in negotiations names (like bully!) will raise your self esteem and dignity go for it...

I'll leave the diplomatic speak to the diplomats. I'm not a negotiator, I'm an observer. And what I observe - and I'm being realistic - is a big, ugly, nasty bully. Cypriots are raising their self esteem and dignity by securing their human rights in the European and other courts, not by name-calling.

But that would not help soften the stand of an opponent like Turkey...

Soften the stand? Since when did any bully stop their bully-boy tactics because you gave in to him? That's what you're advocating. Just give him some of your pocket money and sweets and maybe he'll leave you alone tomorrow.

I am only the messenger,my friend,shoot me if you like....But be careful not to shoot yourself in the foot...

If Turkey wants to threaten Cypriots with more aggression for insisting on rights that any citizens of the civilised world would insist on, then let's hear it from the horse's mouth, not from its messenger boys.

[miltiades]

I've been saying that ever since I've been on this forum. This case was never about property of one man. It was an attack on the TRNC economy. Which is when one begins to fear. Because you put one in a corner where there is no alternative and he will resort to the only option left.

If the "TRNC" economy is so dependent on selling stolen property might I suggest you find more legal ways to earn a living...

I promise you we will as soon as we are allowed to but in the mean time we will use everything at disposal, honest.

No it isn't about hitting the Tnucland economy or stopping our tissy friends making a living.

You don't get it yet? It's been a victory for all CYs.

Sorry Hermes, after you ... thought you were done ....

Now that I have seen your picture, you look as naive as you sound.
Sorry bill.
While the roc judges are blocking TC claims and putting forward GC claims, it sounds mighty cosy.

Fred , why have you lost all credibility ?
You know damn well that not one inch of T/C owned land has been sold either to foreigners or Cypriots , it is still the property of the legal deed holder !

[Jerry]

I've been saying that ever since I've been on this forum. This case was never about property of one man. It was an attack on the TRNC economy. Which is when one begins to fear. Because you put one in a corner where there is no alternative and he will resort to the only option left.

If the "TRNC" economy is so dependent on selling stolen property might I suggest you find more legal ways to earn a living...

I promise you we will as soon as we are allowed to but in the mean time we will use everything at disposal, honest.

No it isn't about hitting the Tnucland economy or stopping our tissy friends making a living.

You don't get it yet? It's been a victory for all CYs.

Sorry Hermes, after you ... thought you were done ....

Now that I have seen your picture, you look as naive as you sound.
Sorry bill.
While the roc judges are blocking TC claims and putting forward GC claims, it sounds mighty cosy.

Well give us all a good laugh Fredoula and show us your picture. I bet you don't have any hair, are you a Talat double?

[YFred]

I've been saying that ever since I've been on this forum. This case was never about property of one man. It was an attack on the TRNC economy. Which is when one begins to fear. Because you put one in a corner where there is no alternative and he will resort to the only option left.

If the "TRNC" economy is so dependent on selling stolen property might I suggest you find more legal ways to earn a living...

I promise you we will as soon as we are allowed to but in the mean time we will use everything at disposal, honest.

No it isn't about hitting the Tnucland economy or stopping our tissy friends making a living.

You don't get it yet? It's been a victory for all CYs.

Sorry Hermes, after you ... thought you were done ....

Now that I have seen your picture, you look as naive as you sound.
Sorry bill.
While the roc judges are blocking TC claims and putting forward GC claims, it sounds mighty cosy.

Fred , why have you lost all credibility ?
You know damn well that not one inch of T/C owned land has been sold either to foreigners or Cypriots , it is still the property of the legal deed holder !

In the mean time the roc trades with the world and TCs depend on handouts from Turkey unable to use their land in the south and according to you they should not be using the land they have exchanged in the north. Come on Milti, I thought you a fair man. I am not so sure anymore.
As to credibility, do I sound as though I care?