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[miltiades]

what really amazes me is that the t/c on this forum did not come out and say justice has been served and our properties as well have been saved(maybe i miss it)the only thing i hear is setting up LLC and that the politcal process for a settlment just got harder and that g/c have to comprimise and other rubbish.If YOU go on the hurrieyt web site there is a t/c(yes a t/c on the largest turkish newspaper site)celebrating that this was a great victory for both t/c and g/c,but not on this site.Only Kikapu but then again we are cheerleaders for Kikapu according to some friends.

Boulio , on this forum alone 3 T/Cs expressed satisfaction that justice has been served. I know of many T/Cs who are also happy that this thorny issue has been cleared once and for all. Do not doubt for one minute the integrity and self respect that many T/Cs , the majority in fact , possess . Let us show them a little respect and you may be surprised , they will reciprocate.

[anna-sh]

miltiades

from what i understand on the news tonight the orams have been given 2 days to come over and clear the house??? which is what mrs O herself said they will be doing before the bulldozers go in, what will happen IF the turks refuse for the house to be demolished?? will they put more settlers in ??

[boulio]

Boulio , on this forum alone 3 T/Cs expressed satisfaction that justice has been served. I know of many T/Cs who are also happy that this thorny issue has been cleared once and for all. Do not doubt for one minute the integrity and self respect that many T/Cs , the majority in fact , possess . Let us show them a little respect and you may be surprised , they will reciprocate.

thats why i said maybe i missed it,thats good.

[Hermes]

Rats leaving the sinking ship...

Turkish property expert: 90% of British will sell Cyprus property

Hurriyet published an interview with Serden Hoca, a member of the Turkish Cypriot committee which discusses the property issue at the negotiations. According to Mr Hoca, approximately ten thousand foreigners reside in the occupied areas, of which five thousand “own” property. Of those, 90% are British. Due to the verdict of the British court, a number of these will sell property out of panic.

[paliometoxo]

excellent news .. but what will the turks do with it when the british sell? who will they sell to?

[Hermes]

VP? Fred? Are you paying attention? There's more. Serdar Denktas wants an "investigation".

Meanwhile, Serdar Denktas, leader of the Democratic Party (DP), said the decision will directly influence the “citizens” of the “TRNC”, breakaway regime in the occupied part of Cyprus, not only the foreigners living there.

He pointed out that the Courts of the Republic of Cyprus might show the Orams Case as a precedent and take decisions regarding other properties which have been developed in the occupied areas.

He argued that the decision will have catastrophic consequences for the economy of the breakaway regime. Mr Denktas expressed the view that the Turkish Cypriot side will come into a difficult situation in the negotiations and added that the Turkish Cypriot leader Talat should quickly call a meeting for evaluating the situation.

He said the “assembly” should carry out an investigation on how this case was lost for the Turkish Cypriots.

Famagusta Gazette

To save the T/Cs the time and expense of an "investigation on how this case was lost", I would like to suggest they lost because they didn't have a leg to stand on. There. Investigation over.

[Pyrpolizer]

I don't see what the troubles of the past regarding treatment of ethnic minorities or whatever has to do with whether it can possibly be seen as just and fair for the property of someone who is forced out of their home (for whatever reason) to then be flogged off to foreigners in their absence and while they are unable to reoccupy it themselves?

If people had to leave their property behind because of a natural disaster - flood, hurricane, or whatever - would anyone think it fair if that property were sold off to the highest bidders in their absence?

A lot of what I read by those defending their actions in buying land or property built on land owned by someone else who has the title to it seems to be saying that the mere 'passage of time' makes it OK. And even more saying that because they 'trusted and believed' the estate agents/property developers who sold it to them - they are blameless. Who on earth trusts estate agents in any country? These Brits wouldn't have touched a UK property with a bargepole if they were told that the title to it was with the rightful owner but that they'd get some sort of mickey mouse title. A lot of property down in the West Country has no title deeds (old Mine Counting Houses renovated for homes for instance). It is made quite clear that every effort to trace original owner must be made and an indemnity policy taken out so that, should the rightful owner (or their inheritors) turn up, they can have their property back and the buyer be compensated or the rightful owner be compensated if that's what they prefer.

As regards the use of the word 'exchange' where all this property is concerned, as I see it - that could only ever work if there was roughly an equal amount of property to 'exchange' and, in Cyprus (again as far as I understand it) it was not divided equally between GCs and TCs.

The truth is they left behind 1/7th of what they took.
Furthermore they took the richest part of Cyprus which makes their so called "exchange" something like exchanging your motorcycle with a porche.

[YFred]

VP? Fred? Are you paying attention? There's more. Serdar Denktas wants an "investigation".

Meanwhile, Serdar Denktas, leader of the Democratic Party (DP), said the decision will directly influence the “citizens” of the “TRNC”, breakaway regime in the occupied part of Cyprus, not only the foreigners living there.

He pointed out that the Courts of the Republic of Cyprus might show the Orams Case as a precedent and take decisions regarding other properties which have been developed in the occupied areas.

He argued that the decision will have catastrophic consequences for the economy of the breakaway regime. Mr Denktas expressed the view that the Turkish Cypriot side will come into a difficult situation in the negotiations and added that the Turkish Cypriot leader Talat should quickly call a meeting for evaluating the situation.

He said the “assembly” should carry out an investigation on how this case was lost for the Turkish Cypriots.

Famagusta Gazette

To save the T/Cs the time and expense of an "investigation on how this case was lost", I would like to suggest they lost because they didn't have a leg to stand on. There. Investigation over.

I've been saying that ever since I've been on this forum. This case was never about property of one man. It was an attack on the TRNC economy. Which is when one begins to fear. Because you put one in a corner where there is no alternative and he will resort to the only option left.

[Hermes]

I've been saying that ever since I've been on this forum. This case was never about property of one man. It was an attack on the TRNC economy. Which is when one begins to fear. Because you put one in a corner where there is no alternative and he will resort to the only option left.

If the "TRNC" economy is so dependent on selling stolen property might I suggest you find more legal ways to earn a living...

[YFred]

I've been saying that ever since I've been on this forum. This case was never about property of one man. It was an attack on the TRNC economy. Which is when one begins to fear. Because you put one in a corner where there is no alternative and he will resort to the only option left.

If the "TRNC" economy is so dependent on selling stolen property might I suggest you find more legal ways to earn a living...

I promise you we will as soon as we are allowed to but in the mean time we will use everything at disposal, honest.