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Apostolides v Orams Judgment Day ?

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Postby bill cobbett » Wed Jan 20, 2010 7:52 pm

For the soon to be very wet Kifeas, the last pages of yesterday's judgment ....


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Postby miltiades » Wed Jan 20, 2010 7:56 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Jerry wrote:He then “reminded” me of incidents in 1931

September 1931, the first GC anti-Brit demonstrations in Nicosia but no casualties that I know of.

and 1914 – I’m not sure which massacres took place in those years

In 1914 Britain was at war with the Ottomans, and sometime in November annexed Cyprus… no trouble/casualties in Cyprus that I know of.

But anyway, I wouldn’t take anything seriously said by an “Embargoed” fool because first and foremost their brains are embargoed! :lol:

I think this bit from a statement by Embargoe takes the biscuit.

""""The British Government has repeatedly failed to fulfil its obligation to the Turkish Cypriots as a Guarantor, and now the British justice system follows suit.""""

I'm just wondering , and I asked this on NCFP where this article appeared , , as to what precisely are these guarantees that Britain reneged on its obligations to the T/Cs.
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Postby Mr. T » Wed Jan 20, 2010 7:58 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
growuptcs wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
boulio wrote:but if there is a solution the g/c and t/c for that matter get all there land back rightful compesation for it if in use for the northern state(airports,ports,hospitals,roads)right vp.


Correct those lands not used will be returned but those used will have to accept market value compensation or alternative plots eleswhere.


Dictated democracy on wheels for VP. Your ideas belong in your chocolate starfish.


If you think thousands of properties are going to be demolished you are hardly showing that you are sane.


There is an easy way to defeat this case having any future impact on current owners and future purchasers.

(i) Simply set up a limited liability company registered in The TRNC with the current or future owners being the sole shareholders.
(ii) Sell the property to the company if you are an existing owner or in the case of new owners the company purchases it.

Companies and individuals are separate legal entities and as the companies would be the owners and the individuals only being shareholders.........problem solved.

To avoid doubt a third party could be appointed a director and the shareholder the secretary.
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Wed Jan 20, 2010 7:59 pm

boulio wrote:what really suprised me today was that the british courts did not send this back to the ecj about the supposed involvment and bias of the greek judge delaying a outcome for another 12-18 months.


Because Cherrie the crook was asking the Turks for 10 million this time, knowing very well she would lose once again and get to the bottom of British lawyers respect line. That's why she did not show up at the verdict either.

What a shame for the British Prime Ministry she was!
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Postby Get Real! » Wed Jan 20, 2010 8:06 pm

miltiades wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Jerry wrote:He then “reminded” me of incidents in 1931

September 1931, the first GC anti-Brit demonstrations in Nicosia but no casualties that I know of.

and 1914 – I’m not sure which massacres took place in those years

In 1914 Britain was at war with the Ottomans, and sometime in November annexed Cyprus… no trouble/casualties in Cyprus that I know of.

But anyway, I wouldn’t take anything seriously said by an “Embargoed” fool because first and foremost their brains are embargoed! :lol:

I think this bit from a statement by Embargoe takes the biscuit.

""""The British Government has repeatedly failed to fulfil its obligation to the Turkish Cypriots as a Guarantor, and now the British justice system follows suit.""""

I'm just wondering , and I asked this on NCFP where this article appeared , , as to what precisely are these guarantees that Britain reneged on its obligations to the T/Cs.

:lol: What do you expect when they’ve got the illiterate likes of Atta Atun writing up their monologues? :lol:

And what about this gem?

“Embargoed! is outraged that the British Court of Appeal has chosen to bow down to the European Court of Justice…”

Err, maybe they were expecting a British Court to bow down to the Arab League or something… :?
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Postby Get Real! » Wed Jan 20, 2010 8:11 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:What a shame for the British Prime Ministry she was!

As much as I agree about her pitfalls, she's still got nothing on her husband! :lol:
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Postby Jerry » Wed Jan 20, 2010 8:12 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Jerry wrote:He then “reminded” me of incidents in 1931

September 1931, the first GC anti-Brit demonstrations in Nicosia but no casualties that I know of.

and 1914 – I’m not sure which massacres took place in those years

In 1914 Britain was at war with the Ottomans, and sometime in November annexed Cyprus… no trouble/casualties in Cyprus that I know of.

But anyway, I wouldn’t take anything seriously said by an “Embargoed” fool because first and foremost their brains are embargoed! :lol:


Yes he was a bit extreme to say the least, As to 1931 I recently read that the "uprising" in 1931 lasted a week and Britain was really quite close to losing control of Cyprus because it only had a couple of thousand troops stationed there at that time. I'll try and find the report again. In 1914 I believe quite a few TCs left the island because Britain was at war with Turkey. In both cases I don't think there was inter-communal conflict or casualties.

Embargoed seem to think if you throw enough mud some of it will stick.
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Postby bill cobbett » Wed Jan 20, 2010 8:17 pm

Mr. T wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
growuptcs wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
boulio wrote:but if there is a solution the g/c and t/c for that matter get all there land back rightful compesation for it if in use for the northern state(airports,ports,hospitals,roads)right vp.


Correct those lands not used will be returned but those used will have to accept market value compensation or alternative plots eleswhere.


Dictated democracy on wheels for VP. Your ideas belong in your chocolate starfish.


If you think thousands of properties are going to be demolished you are hardly showing that you are sane.


There is an easy way to defeat this case having any future impact on current owners and future purchasers.

(i) Simply set up a limited liability company registered in The TRNC with the current or future owners being the sole shareholders.
(ii) Sell the property to the company if you are an existing owner or in the case of new owners the company purchases it.

Companies and individuals are separate legal entities and as the companies would be the owners and the individuals only being shareholders.........problem solved.

To avoid doubt a third party could be appointed a director and the shareholder the secretary.


Listen, these cases have nothing to do with dodgy ownerships, the GB and other courts only recognise one ownership the real, pre74 one.

They have nothing to do with tenure typre, freehold, leasehold, trusts, renting etc etc...

The "offense" is in the CIVIL TORT OF TRESSPASS, by building and by going on to someone else's land, without the owner's permission.

Dream up all the "ownership" scams imaginable, but ultimately a person or a family will have to TRESSPASS on to the land, to enjoy land belonging to someone else and it is they, not some meaningless fiction of an ownership scam that would be liable.

Have we got it now?
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Postby boulio » Wed Jan 20, 2010 8:17 pm

what really amazes me is that the t/c on this forum did not come out and say justice has been served and our properties as well have been saved(maybe i miss it)the only thing i hear is setting up LLC and that the politcal process for a settlment just got harder and that g/c have to comprimise and other rubbish.If YOU go on the hurrieyt web site there is a t/c(yes a t/c on the largest turkish newspaper site)celebrating that this was a great victory for both t/c and g/c,but not on this site.Only Kikapu but then again we are cheerleaders for Kikapu according to some friends.
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Postby Get Real! » Wed Jan 20, 2010 8:18 pm

Mr. T wrote:(i) Simply set up a limited liability company registered in The TRNC...

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Nothing created/registered in the “TRNC” is recognized.
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