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Apostolides v Orams Judgment Day ?

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby Hermes » Wed Jan 20, 2010 1:26 am

YFred wrote:It's a greek thing. The Universe is either Greekofile or Turkofile and nothing inbetween. This smells like Bush's "You are either with us or against us". Guess what, there is a third choice, they don't give a shit.


What's the matter, Fred? Lost your sense of humour? Today is a good day to be Cypriot. Justice prevailed and all is right with the universe. You know what it's like when things go your way? Maybe not.

Of course, you must allow us our moment in the Sun. We have fought hard to get to this stage. It's all thanks to our grand strategy. Get into the EU then we can really start to fuck with the minds of the Turks. It's working, yes?

Still a long way to go. No-one is kidding themselves. But we're making progress. Our land back. No half-way measures. No injustice. Rights for all. Our struggle against the Turk is for you as well. To free you from the occupation. Don't forget that. Lapithos is near Kyrenia, isn't it? Looks lovely. Mr. Apostolides deserves to live in his home again, don't you agree?
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Postby YFred » Wed Jan 20, 2010 1:26 am

Get Real! wrote:Whatever works for now Y-Fronts… nothing short of the complete destruction of the “TRNC” will suffice for us. Inch by inch, foot by foot, we shall reclaim our rightful 10,000 year old inheritance down to the last millimeter!

Now you are talking. You have some balls. The bash patriots are shistomenos. Yes, you will get a chance to destroy the whole of the TRNC. Good luck, but what ever you do don't fire them tanks or you'll loose them to.
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Postby Get Real! » Wed Jan 20, 2010 1:32 am

YFred wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Whatever works for now Y-Fronts… nothing short of the complete destruction of the “TRNC” will suffice for us. Inch by inch, foot by foot, we shall reclaim our rightful 10,000 year old inheritance down to the last millimeter!

Now you are talking. You have some balls. The bash patriots are shistomenos. Yes, you will get a chance to destroy the whole of the TRNC. Good luck, but what ever you do don't fire them tanks or you'll loose them to.

I don’t beat around the bush… I know what I want, I know it is mine and I’m coming to get it!
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Postby boulio » Wed Jan 20, 2010 1:45 am

anybody heard from copperline?
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Postby Get Real! » Wed Jan 20, 2010 1:48 am

boulio wrote:anybody heard from copperline?

Yeah, he's got a short circuit...
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Postby Hermes » Wed Jan 20, 2010 1:48 am

YFred wrote: he has not got his land and after what he did, I doubt that he will ever be able to spend one night there. He has allowed himself to be used by the roc and the rest of the patriots to kick the TRNC economy in the balls, but there is a price to pay for such pleasures. Now that is a sad fact of life.

You're wrong to think that Apostolides has been "used" by anyone. He knows what he is fighting for. He is nobody's fool and represents all Cypriots who are fighting with patience and dignity for the return of their land.

You are right that this has economic consequences. Six years ago the lawyers put a bomb under the "TRNC" economy. Today it went off. But the consequences are not just economic. They are legal and political as well. As our President acknowledged.

Legal in that ROC court decisions can be enforced throughout Europe. And political in that it destroys the Turkish argument that property rights should be denied to the legal owners. Unlike you, I don't see a down side to any of this.

Sure you lot are feeling upset because you can't keep what you stole by force and occupation. But that's how thieves feel when the full weight of the law comes crashing down on their heads. I think I can live with your disappointment...
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Postby Malapapa » Wed Jan 20, 2010 2:16 am

DEMOLITION NIGHTMARE FOR HOME-IN-THE-SUN BRITONS

http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/152 ... un-Britons

A RETIRED couple face the heartbreak of demolishing their holiday home in Cyprus after a landmark court ruling that could affect thousands of others.

David and Linda Orams ploughed their life’s savings into building the luxury villa and swimming pool in the Turkish part of the divided Mediterranean island.

But a court in the capital Nicosia ordered them to knock down the house and return the land to the original owner who fled when Turkey invaded Cyprus in 1974.

Yesterday the Court of Appeal in London upheld the judgment.

The ruling could hit thousands of other holiday home owners who bought land in northern Cyprus that once belonged to Greek Cypriots.
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Postby Oracle » Wed Jan 20, 2010 2:16 am

Aaahh! Bliss. It's all gone quiet.

Time for bed. Sweet dreams to everyone :D
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Postby Oracle » Wed Jan 20, 2010 2:18 am

Oooppsie ... Malapapa's still hard at work. The early morning papers have arrived ... :lol:
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Postby BirKibrisli » Wed Jan 20, 2010 2:28 am

Vow...go to sleep,wake up,and find the whole world changed... :)

Or has it???? :?

while I am delighted that one man has finally recieved natural justice,I am worried this will make finding a solution even more difficult...Christofias is already hailing this as a "political victory" and I think that is mistaken...This will only make The TCs and Turkey more obstinate,more suspicious of GC motives...

There is nothing political in this judgement,it is purely a win for international property law....I agree that the implications for the British refugee property "owners" in tne trnc are grave...And this will rightly put an end to land speculation in the North...But it will do nothing to facilitate a comprehensive solution...Orams will not be allowed to demolish the villa,and they will end up abandoning it..They will most likely be compensated by the trnc authorities for their loss...The property will probably revert to the trnc admin ,and they might rent it or lease it to some settler...
Those who are waiting for the trnc economy to collapse s,will also have a long wait...something that does not exist cannot collapse...The trnc economy is entirely supported by Turkey,at great expense,and this will continue until a solution is found...Sure,the decision has opened the way for others to follow suit,and start harrassing the British settlers,but think of how long it will take in courts...And while we fiddle with this property issue,the status quo will continue without an end in sight...Those who see the Cyprus conflict simply as one based on foreign occupation and ethnic cleansing,human rights abuse etc will be disappointed in the long run when nothing really changes,as Viewpoint has already stated...
But don't let me rain on your parade now...Justice for one refugee is something to celebrate in itself...Lets say 3 cheers for Mr Apostolides,hip hip...hurray...hip hip.... :)
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