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[-mikkie2-]

"Mikkie, only recently have these issues even been addressed in the south, in large part because of the Orams court case. "

Not true. I think there are quite a few TC's that have returned to some abaondoned villages in the south. The governemnt is even giving grants for old buildings to be renovated. There was also a case 4 or 5 years ago soon after the green line opened when a TC took back his property in Limassol (can't remember the name of the TC). There are also other cases that have not been widely publicised, but there has been a number of TC's that have returned.

[Tim Drayton]

So what happened to Sofi and she was able to get a hearing at the ECHR?
What about the 10 odd other cases?
How did the commission fail them?


You see what will likely happen is a big increase in restitution law suits for property and land. Let it come, TCs have been way to placid up until now, I do expect some change. Talat had kept many back saying don't muddy the waters as we need to work on a comprehensive solution. He's now going to get it in the neck by TCs, I would guess that those seeking restitution will not be held back any longer by the talking heads in TRNC.


Although disturbed by the lack of understanding of the comprehensive solution being discussed for all the pro-unification boys and girls in the decision, I am happy we finally have a decision. Bring on the next stage

Sofi accepted an amicable, out-of-court settlement, as far as I know. I could be worng.

[Malapapa]

Thousands face eviction from north Cyprus holiday homes

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/u ... 993810.ece


Speaking after the Court of Appeal’s ruling yesterday, Mrs Orams, from Hove, Sussex told The Times: "It’s very disappointing. Obviously, it’s a blow to us but we’re not going to let it ruin our lives... We’re strong, we’ve dealt with this for over five years now. We’ll just carry on and hope for the best."

Mr Apostolides said: "I’m thrilled. This case has gone on for nearly six years, it was about time for it to come to and end. It was a very good decision, it is a victory for European laws and regulations. I believe it’s a very important decision for all Cypriots and a decision that protects the individual rights of people against any unlawful authority."

Asked if Mr Apostolides will claim against the Orams’ assets in Britain, including their home in Hove, Constantis Candounas, Mr Apostolides’s solicitor, said: "We have to wait to see what the Orams’ reaction will be, how they want to go about it, whether they’ll call Apostolides to hand the property [in northern Cyprus over], whether they will pay the damages, whether we will have to take legal action to enforce the judgment. It remains to be seen."

[paliometoxo]

Thousands face eviction from north Cyprus holiday homes

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/u ... 993810.ece


Speaking after the Court of Appeal’s ruling yesterday, Mrs Orams, from Hove, Sussex told The Times: "It’s very disappointing. Obviously, it’s a blow to us but we’re not going to let it ruin our lives... We’re strong, we’ve dealt with this for over five years now. We’ll just carry on and hope for the best."

Mr Apostolides said: "I’m thrilled. This case has gone on for nearly six years, it was about time for it to come to and end. It was a very good decision, it is a victory for European laws and regulations. I believe it’s a very important decision for all Cypriots and a decision that protects the individual rights of people against any unlawful authority."

Asked if Mr Apostolides will claim against the Orams’ assets in Britain, including their home in Hove, Constantis Candounas, Mr Apostolides’s solicitor, said: "We have to wait to see what the Orams’ reaction will be, how they want to go about it, whether they’ll call Apostolides to hand the property [in northern Cyprus over], whether they will pay the damages, whether we will have to take legal action to enforce the judgment. It remains to be seen."

what did they expect to happen when they buy STOLEN land?!?! they should of done it the LEGAL way and they would not of been in this mess today. now they lost more money then they would of if they paid for the house legally

now the turks will probably replace them with other turks. i dont see the rightful owner having much say in his land. the ruling from eu was final but lets see how the turks react now

[Hermes]

Just for a moment consider the words of Mrs. Fat Ugly Pig that they had "unwittingly become entangled in a complex dispute between Greek and Turkish Cypriots".

When they became aware of their "unwitting"involvement what did Mr and Mrs. Fat Ugly Pig do? The decent thing? Fat chance. They chose to take on the original owner, throw their lot in with the occupying authorities and hire the Prime Minister of Great Britain's wife to set a legal precedent that would usurp the original owner's rights and make them the legal owners of the property. That is how "unwitting" they were.

They deserved to lose and they deserve to lose everything. Fat Ugly Thieving Pigs should never prosper.

[boulio]

Is it safe to say that the property issue of the cyprus problem is solved?

[YFred]

Yep. Watch the talks collapse and see where it gets you. Let us hope it's not back to 74 hey.

[-mikkie2-]

http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php? ... 2010-01-19

Here is a take from the Turkish press plus interesting comments, one by the AGA action group!

[Get Real!]

The Orams, willingly and knowingly made themselves part of the Cyprus problem by taking advantage of a refugee’s demise for their personal gain, and in doing so they became an accessory to one of the many War Crimes that were committed by Turkey against the indigenous people of Cyprus… namely ETHNIC CLEANSING… by replacing the legal Greek Cypriot owners of their land and properties with illegal settlers from around the world including Britain.

Apart from the various restitutions that M.Apostolides has won in court, I would also like to see War Crimes charges filed against the Orams, and against every other Turkish accessory to this mass crime that resulted in the displacement of 185,000 Cypriots in July/August of 1974.

[Malapapa]

Yep. Watch the talks collapse and see where it gets you. Let us hope it's not back to 74 hey.

You'd rather the pigs won? And, now it's clear to the world who the property belongs to, (including yours in the south if you have any) what is there to talk about, apart from how everyone's going to get it back?