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[Acikgoz]

So what happened to Sofi and she was able to get a hearing at the ECHR?
What about the 10 odd other cases?
How did the commission fail them?


You see what will likely happen is a big increase in restitution law suits for property and land. Let it come, TCs have been way to placid up until now, I do expect some change. Talat had kept many back saying don't muddy the waters as we need to work on a comprehensive solution. He's now going to get it in the neck by TCs, I would guess that those seeking restitution will not be held back any longer by the talking heads in TRNC.


Although disturbed by the lack of understanding of the comprehensive solution being discussed for all the pro-unification boys and girls in the decision, I am happy we finally have a decision. Bring on the next stage

[Kifeas]

Any chance we may have a link to the actual text of todays UK court ruling?

[denizaksulu]

The Court victory was not over our T/C compatriots , it was a victory for justice and it should be celebrated as such.
The British cheapskates have received a very clear message .
If any one still doubts the benefits of Cyprus's European membership then the clearly they don't know what they are talking about .
I'm pleased that I was able to attend and also meet Gerry and Bill as well as Mr and Mrs Apostolides and Mr Kandounas.
Remember folks , this is NOT a victory against out compatriots the T/Cs , it is however a massive defeat of the CHEAPSKATES and those acting illegally.

No surprises for me at today’s judgment, and certainly no surprises at your appearance in court! Didn’t I say you’ll go looking like John Steed?

Hi GR. The Orams case is finally over - one hopes. It was this case that brought us pen-to-pen (face to face) four years ago on the other forum.
You won my friend.

I believe justice has won. What this will mean to the average TC in the north god only knows. I hope we can all learn our lesson and pay more respect to justice, law and order.

Congratulations to ALL Cypriots...................

My only surprise is all the pussyfooting that was being allowed by European courts when these guys should’ve been nailed from the very first appearance in a straightforward HR case! It would’ve saved them bundles of wasted money too!

Now what?

One day at a time sweet Jesus... la la la la la la

The northern Authorities should have known that Justice always (almost) prevails. They should have been accountable.

[anna-sh]

Acikgoz
From what i see of the TCs in the hospitals getting there free medical cards and the offices where they claim there roc ids i would say they are doing better than most GCs... maybe it`s the selling of GC land to carpetbaggers that has bought them all there posh expensive cars that they drive around the south in. they have the best of both worlds thanks to the roc, it is mainland Turkey who have deprived them of the above mentioned for the last 35yrs and it is Turkey that has brainwashed some of them into stealing lands and it is Turkey that gave them all the go ahead to decieve there own people.

[Get Real!]

I welcome your attempt to garnishee my pensions, if you can prove that I live in your property, that is. If you want to come to Malatya to see if I am, let me know first, and I'll have a couple of nice Turkish soldiers show you around the TRNC on your way out.

You're already on file Mr Swimming Pools! You were an easy one...

Any time bubble, any time.
Just remember - getting into the TRNC is easy, it's getting out again that's the tricky bit.

Don’t worry, a European arrest warrant can quickly get you out… because you can run but you can’t hide!

I was referring to you getting out of the TRNC, old lad.

We'll just let the European arrest warrants do the walking for us...

EU arrest warrants don't work up here either.

Oh yes they will... you saw an island-wide smoking ban as requested by the EU recently, so expect pressure on the "TRNC" to comply on a whole range of issues in 2010... and they will because money talks and bullshit walks.

[Oracle]

Do we see the same judgement for Apostolides?
Why take 6 months out of anyone's life to live in a place just to get their rights?
Sounds like a barrier to justice, particularly for those with responsibilities and jobs in the North or UK, or Australia etc. and what confidence the property will be released?

How about you take a gamble and place down as your wager a loss of 6 months pay, spend 6 months rent and board to live around people that deny you your rights, for the chance, not the guarantee that you will be able to get your property back?!

That is known as a barrier to justice.

The six months is a safeguard against impostors. You don't want the RoC to give out your property to any desperado claiming to be you, now do you?

If I might ask, how does living somewhere prove one is an imposter or not? That is, unless you were being facetious...

I can see why you are in the mess you are in.

Do you expect the RoC to just hand the property over to anyone who asks for it then? ... No checks on paperwork, records, past deaths and inheritors and their wills?

Six months is a pretty standard conveyancing time considering how many checks have to be made and the implications from getting it wrong.

No checks on paperwork, records, past deaths and inheritors and their wills?
I can see why these checks would need to be made, but does the person have to be there whilst they are being carried out? I don't think so. Smacks of intimidation to me.

There's no intimidation. There are many TCs happily living in the free areas.

What intimidates you, is the need for valid checks because when you "bought" some GC's house, you turned a blind eye to doing things correctly, didn't you?

[-mikkie2-]

"So what happened to Sofi and she was able to get a hearing at the ECHR?"

Her case didn't get a hearing at the ECHR.

The Guardian of Turkish Cypriot properties has handed back her property and has also got compensation from the government for loss of use of 500000 euros. So I would say that she has got justice.

Now compare that to what the property 'commision' in the north is giving to GC refugees and you will see the difference. In the north, land is not given back but instead they give back peanuts for it and no compensation for loss of use.

[Kifeas]

Any chance we may have a link to the actual text of today's UK court ruling?

[Acikgoz]

mikkie, here you are doing it again. She had to jump through all the hoops before being given her rights. Does that smack of a RoC that is executing the judgement handed down by the Court of Appeals in the UK? Is that RoC justice?

[vaughanwilliams]

I welcome your attempt to garnishee my pensions, if you can prove that I live in your property, that is. If you want to come to Malatya to see if I am, let me know first, and I'll have a couple of nice Turkish soldiers show you around the TRNC on your way out.

You're already on file Mr Swimming Pools! You were an easy one...

Any time bubble, any time.
Just remember - getting into the TRNC is easy, it's getting out again that's the tricky bit.

Don’t worry, a European arrest warrant can quickly get you out… because you can run but you can’t hide!

I was referring to you getting out of the TRNC, old lad.
EU arrest warrants don't work up here either.

You and the rest of the cheapskates ought to be arrested for entering Cyprus via unrecognized ports of entry .
This monumental decision has manifested it self as a result of the rule of law justice and fairness , not based on greedy cheapskates needs and selfish wants.

"You and the rest of the cheapskates ought to be arrested for entering Cyprus via unrecognized ports of entry."
Well, let me ask you this; I have entered the TRNC many times through Ercan and I have the stamps in my passort to prove it. I have also been to RoC many times and shown my passport. Never once was it even suggested that I might be arrested on such a bullshit charge. Perhaps you might like to enlighten us all why this might be. A bit like the other BS law regarding the dealing in GC property in the North. Never enforced to my knowledge. Why might that be? Can't be through lack of bottle, surely? More likely not a snowballs chance in hell of getting a conviction.