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[paliometoxo]

well only the old men seem to have a problem with the gcs who feel like the war happened yesterday. and the older gcs with the same hate. we need new blood ones that still don't think they are living in 1960's

[Expatkiwi]

well only the old men seem to have a problem with the gcs who feel like the war happened yesterday. and the older gcs with the same hate. we need new blood ones that still don't think they are living in 1960's

Progressive thinking is also needed, but the siege mentality of Northern Cyprus is a block in that direction, and with the Turkish Military's influence there as well...

[paliometoxo]

influence or control? its pretty much what they want

[Expatkiwi]

influence or control? its pretty much what they want

It comes under one word: power. The one thing that I do not like about the TRNC is that it's elected government is subservient to Ankara, and the Turkish Forces stationed there.

[paliometoxo]

well thats the bad side of depending on someone else.. Ultimately they can control the people they help and the ones being helped have little or no say and nothing they can do about it if they still want help. and without turkey there is no trnc,

[Expatkiwi]

well thats the bad side of depending on someone else.. Ultimately they can control the people they help and the ones being helped have little or no say and nothing they can do about it if they still want help. and without turkey there is no trnc,

That is it in a nutshell. Had the Turkish Cypriots fought alone, and prevailed - just like the former Yugoslav republics - then the TRNC would have been acknowledged.

[paliometoxo]

maybe.

[Nikitas]

"Embassies of both Cypriot states to be located inside the Old City."

Now this phrase shows how little you know of Cyprus!

There is enough land in the old city to house the US and maybe the British empbassies and their grounds. Where will the rest of them, along with the local population fit?

Places are not always as they seem on Google earth.

In such a small place the population cannot be ordered about as if they were chess pieces. People will move to where the money is, and that means the urban business centers of the south, centers that grew through the ages for reasons that geographers and economists have analysed well enough. No matter what lines some numbskull generals like to draw on maps the same places will be the focal points in the future.

If you follow the Cyprus media you will see that both sides report the problem of urban sprawl as people leave villages for the cities, even when the village is only 20 miles from the city. Now figure that of the six cities on the island four are in the south. Does that tell you anything? If you add Famagusta/Varosha to the list that makes it five to two. If you know the places you realise that Kyrenia is more like a grand village than a city and Famagusta is a walled ghetto while Varosha is a city. The ratio then becomes five to one. Now figure that Nicosia is a half and half situation and will give you a new perspective on the economic life of the island. The solution is not for TCs to abandon their stake in the urban centers of the south.

If you were a TC with land in any urban center of the south you would be a fool to let it go when you can keep it and earn a decent rent. That should illustrate why partition will not work.

[Raymanoff]

how about an artificial Island north of Kyrenia connected by a bridge to Turkey and CYprus... those companies in Dubai are out of jobs now so they could do it cheaply.

[Expatkiwi]

how about an artificial Island north of Kyrenia connected by a bridge to Turkey and CYprus... those companies in Dubai are out of jobs now so they could do it cheaply.

You know, that is not a bad idea at all... Or GR's idea: Greece ceding a number of islands in the Agean to be given to the TC's in exchange for giving up TRNC...