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[denizaksulu]

Palio, check out the links and see foryourself the other factors affecting the fate of Cyprus. Cyprus itself or Cypriots never did attack anyone (as Oracle is too keen to bring up) but the Masters of Cyprus at the time who were the Venetians DID become a nuisance to the Ottoman Empire just because where it was. ....

Deniz, how does any of that contradict the fact that Cyprus/Cypriots have never attacked and invaded any other country?

If the Ottomans and Venetians hated each other and battled for supremacy, how can that be the Cypriots' fault?

If Greeks and half-Greeks, enslaved to the Ottomans, carried out some unsavoury duties, for survival, you cannot generalise about how "lovely" the Ottomans were when they managed to go around attacking everyone, enslaving them and then forcing those slave to do more of their dirty work. Is that more honorable for the Ottomans?

Are you going to blame the African Slaves for European-Americans wiping out the Mohicans?

I DID say the Cypriots never attacked anybody outside the boundaries of the island. The Venetians did. They had Rhodes, the Morae the dodecanese, Cyprus... shall I go on?. That made Cyprus a target Oracle.

I dont think the Barbarossa brothers were enslaved Oracle. Nor the Greekborn sea-men. These men sailed on ships as long as the monies were right.

Read up on the 'noble' Knights of Malta. The Maltese privateers were blessed by the Pope to attack the Moslem trade routes and where necessary in bad weather they sought refuge in Cypriot harbours. Attacking merchant ships was not the sole deed of the Ottoman ships (corsairs/navy/privateers).

[paliometoxo]

but nowdays we have mixed villages again and did the gcs kill any of the tcs in this mixed village? they are living fine together they dont need a 40k arrmy troops sitting there its all show for the eu un to pretend they need two states.

mixed village of Pyla. has there been one tc or gc death? murder i mean

[denizaksulu]

but nowdays we have mixed villages again and did the gcs kill any of the tcs in this mixed village? they are living fine together they dont need a 40k arrmy troops sitting there its all show for the eu un to pretend they need two states.

mixed village of Pyla. has there been one tc or gc death? murder i mean

Pyle, is not a good example Palio. From what I read, their is constant tension, and often interference/incitement from either the north or the RoC. I am not putting the blame on anyone, but methinks partitionists on either side are playing dirty.

[paliometoxo]

i have not heard any bad news from the village :/

the partitionists need to be stopped gotten rid of. since their only goal is to bring hate and trouble to cyprus

[denizaksulu]

i have not heard any bad news from the village :/

the partitionists need to be stopped gotten rid of. since their only goal is to bring hate and trouble to cyprus

Agreed. You get rid of yours and we will get rid of ours.

OMG. If it works we will be hero's.

[paliometoxo]

hehe good idea
They are the ones causing troubles and without them i bet the mixed village would be ok.

but i know they are the majority of gcs and tcs so its not going to be an easy task lol

[EPSILON]

You are dreaming GCs are not clever enough nor do they have the desire to take such steps, becuase they do not want a solution where they are have to share this island.

To share with whom and why?

[EPSILON]

i have not heard any bad news from the village :/

the partitionists need to be stopped gotten rid of. since their only goal is to bring hate and trouble to cyprus

Agreed. You get rid of yours and we will get rid of ours.

OMG. If it works we will be hero's.

No hate, no trouble.

1 person 1 vote
Free movement and stay in whole Island
1 Citizenship 1 government
securing all the rights of any minority

we are requesting human rights and you are telling us that we create hate? and troubles?

You are creating all of it, because you use the protection of guns against a small country to obtain rights which could not be given even to Germans in the countries they occupied during WWII.!!!

Who in South is saying that he / she is Greek is a fanatic- is a fascist- he/she wants to destroy T/cs- this is your propaganta.Unfortunatetly you hv convisted even many G/cs!!!!

You are the fascists, you are creating the problem, you are requesting to be shareholders of a land which was and never being yours.

Take your ideas and settlers and go away-come back when you be able to understand what a democratic/European country / system is.


You think- just you think- that this story (because of arms power) will go long, but you make a huge mistake-you and your masters, Look around in all countries history/ look who finally win. Always human rights-always Democracy win. Not you- not Ottoman policies not Hitler's policy.

Hopefully G/cs will find the power-and most important- the leadership to guide them to the pain of waiting the history's moment of justice.

[Shaka_zulu]

there we go again....lets get past all the petty issues, the since you want turkey why dont u stay over there and dont come and work/ use our airports or doctors are tooo petty in this issue.

as rightly pointed out before, the issues is about what turkey wants and wat GCs have. but the only card turkey has is the Tc card. if GCs hold that card no matter how bitter a pill it cost them to swallow am sure it will be worth seeing the seeming 'Almighty Turkey' leave without acheiving its partitionist goals. i support a united cyprus, one state maybe with a lil power sharing formula et al. but a cyprus devoid of external influences.

As regards the flags, the flags on the mountain was put there for the sole purpose of irritating GC. a game well played by turkey, GCs react turkey misinforms TC they hate everything thats TC.

if GC can swallow a bitter pill of given the TC a really good offer am sure the bitterness will immediately become as sweet as honey when turkey finds TCs rallying against settlers and her(turkey) asking to there return to anatolia

Why don't you understand what ORACLE is saying:

The problem is not the TC but Turkey for wanting what Cyprus has. THEY WILL NEVER accept and agreement where Turkey leaves with all their troops and no more control over Cyprus. They will simply never agree to such a plan.

Today I was talking with a woman that had her husband a solider as a hostage during the war at Turkey. The only thing they gave him was some bread, water, and olives to make him more thirsty to drink more water to make him feel he ate a complete meal. then later on they were beaten with sticks burned with ciggarettes all over their body. If you want me to make any deals with such ANIMALS ( take into consideration animals at least give some remorse towards such actions ) then your a fool. Bloody under knowledged people with no ethics in their lives.

i know your type over grown baby who is afraid of engaging in intellectual debates. while its possible for you to have gotten irritated due to your past experiences with Turkey and them lot. you didnt have to insult me. Grow up!!

[denizaksulu]

i have not heard any bad news from the village :/

the partitionists need to be stopped gotten rid of. since their only goal is to bring hate and trouble to cyprus

Agreed. You get rid of yours and we will get rid of ours.

OMG. If it works we will be hero's.

No hate, no trouble.

1 person 1 vote
Free movement and stay in whole Island
1 Citizenship 1 government
securing all the rights of any minority

we are requesting human rights and you are telling us that we create hate? and troubles?

You are creating all of it, because you use the protection of guns against a small country to obtain rights which could not be given even to Germans in the countries they occupied during WWII.!!!

Who in South is saying that he / she is Greek is a fanatic- is a fascist- he/she wants to destroy T/cs- this is your propaganta.Unfortunatetly you hv convisted even many G/cs!!!!

You are the fascists, you are creating the problem, you are requesting to be shareholders of a land which was and never being yours.

Take your ideas and settlers and go away-come back when you be able to understand what a democratic/European country / system is.


You think- just you think- that this story (because of arms power) will go long, but you make a huge mistake-you and your masters, Look around in all countries history/ look who finally win. Always human rights-always Democracy win. Not you- not Ottoman policies not Hitler's policy.

Hopefully G/cs will find the power-and most important- the leadership to guide them to the pain of waiting the history's moment of justice.

Read your own signature. That says it all. I need no more convincing. Cyprus needs protecting from the likes of you.