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[Pyrpolizer]

And to save some time on the not knowng anything shit called Viewpoint:

1963 Dec 21, intercommunal violence explodes. Truce force set up with British troops, Greek & Turkish liaison officers. Ceasefire after Turkish jets buzzed Nicosia. Casualties in first ten days (known dead & missing presumed dead): TCs, 136, GCs 30.

That dear VP constituted the massacre of 1963, otherwise called the bloody Christmas or KanliNoel.

Taken from the cyprus conflit web site.

We are talking TC refugees and emptied TC villages.

See above everuything is there!

[Pyrpolizer]

The Cyprus Conflict website has dissappeared...its such a shame because it was such a good source for unbiased information...

Too bad. Even denktashes web site got lost.he had some interesting information there. When he was president he also had a whole web page for the Cyprus prob Chronology, he even had the map of the TC villages after 1963.

[Viewpoint]

And to save some time on the not knowng anything shit called Viewpoint:

1963 Dec 21, intercommunal violence explodes. Truce force set up with British troops, Greek & Turkish liaison officers. Ceasefire after Turkish jets buzzed Nicosia. Casualties in first ten days (known dead & missing presumed dead): TCs, 136, GCs 30.

That dear VP constituted the massacre of 1963, otherwise called the bloody Christmas or KanliNoel.

Taken from the cyprus conflit web site.

We are talking TC refugees and emptied TC villages.

See above everuything is there!

Your quote "You said the TCs lost a "lot" of property in 1963. First of all the term "they lost property" is not correct.Yes a number of them have been forced to abandon their properties but nobody else got any title deed for them"

clearly shows what you are trying to do which understate the TC suffering which in reality was..

"The result of the 1963-1964 Greek Cypriot attacks had been the destruction of 103 Turkish villages and over a thousand houses and shops. Over 25,000 Turkish Cypriots, almost one fourth of the total Turkish Cypriot people were uprooted from their homes and had become refugees. "

Which you only stated when challenged....there goes your credibility and balanced views.

[Kikapu]

Pyro, nice to have you on the Cyprus Forum again.!

[Pyrpolizer]

And to save some time on the not knowng anything shit called Viewpoint:

1963 Dec 21, intercommunal violence explodes. Truce force set up with British troops, Greek & Turkish liaison officers. Ceasefire after Turkish jets buzzed Nicosia. Casualties in first ten days (known dead & missing presumed dead): TCs, 136, GCs 30.

That dear VP constituted the massacre of 1963, otherwise called the bloody Christmas or KanliNoel.

Taken from the cyprus conflit web site.

We are talking TC refugees and emptied TC villages.

See above everuything is there!

Your quote "You said the TCs lost a "lot" of property in 1963. First of all the term "they lost property" is not correct.Yes a number of them have been forced to abandon their properties but nobody else got any title deed for them"

clearly shows what you are trying to do which understate the TC suffering which in reality was..

"The result of the 1963-1964 Greek Cypriot attacks had been the destruction of 103 Turkish villages and over a thousand houses and shops. Over 25,000 Turkish Cypriots, almost one fourth of the total Turkish Cypriot people were uprooted from their homes and had become refugees. "

Which you only stated when challenged....there goes your credibility and balanced views.

Make a search to my posts in this forum. I m the first and ONLY one who said multiple of times that the TCs had a total of 25,000 refugees.

Furthermore you are not reading carefully. The quote I put on was from Denktashes web site. He says the 25,000 became refugees in 1963 which is not true. It was waves of people abondoning their places from 1963 until mid 1964. Furthermore there doesn't seem to be a clear picture as to who forced those people to move, in fact independent sources say it was partially preplaned and implemented by your TMT and partially because of GC fear or threats.

So what's your complain against me?

As for the 103 Villages you are really making yourself a laughing stock beleiving the nonsese of Denktash. Just look at the other nonsense he says about the 1000 TC houses, and divide 1000 over 103.

[Pyrpolizer]

Pyro, nice to have you on the Cyprus Forum again.!

Hi Kiks, I am glad I can drop in occasionally.
At least I learn you are all in good heath.

[Pyrpolizer]

Expat,

Why don't you explain people in here how exactly you placed landmarks of the BRTK and the Turkish Embassy on satelite or hybrid maps of a place you presumably never visited. Who gave you the coordinates?

Wikimapia is a public map forum where locations can be highlighted by zooming in on an area from a master map. When I first looked at Cyprus a few years ago, I was quite shocked by the dearth of landmark postings north of the Green line. I put some on, but a day or two later, they had been deleted. At that time, I had not made that many landmark postings, so my posts had a time period before they became "official". Some Wikimapia members who didn't like my posting markers on North Cyprus landmarks were behind this, and only after my number of overall postings hit a threshhold did my subsequent re-postings of North Cyprus landmarks remain. Then came some nasty comments on those postings, which is why I retaliated with the swastika.

I know very well how to put landmarks. I asked you to explain the procedure on how YOU did it. To make a long story short there are ONLY 2 ways to put landmarks:

a) You know the place very well and you can recognise it on a satelite map hence you go directly there you highlight the area and you put your lndmark
b) You have the coordinates of the places you want to mark, you go to Google earth, you find the exact spot and then copy it on Wikimap because Wiki is actually a copy of Google but without the Coordinates fascility.So my question was WHO GAVE YOU THE COORDINATES?

What you described above falls under "a." But you said before that you 've never even visited Cyprus!!!

Something fishy goes on here...

NB. The above procedure is for places with no landmarks.
When THERE IS a landmark it just gets highlighted by itself. In fact I beleive this is the way you located the Greek embassy, right?

I am still waiting for your explanation....

You may use the following satelite map (same format as that at Wiki) if you like. It shows a part of Nicosia.

[Expatkiwi]

I know very well how to put landmarks. I asked you to explain the procedure on how YOU did it. To make a long story short there are ONLY 2 ways to put landmarks:

a) You know the place very well and you can recognise it on a satelite map hence you go directly there you highlight the area and you put your lndmark
b) You have the coordinates of the places you want to mark, you go to Google earth, you find the exact spot and then copy it on Wikimap because Wiki is actually a copy of Google but without the Coordinates fascility.So my question was WHO GAVE YOU THE COORDINATES?

What you described above falls under "a." But you said before that you 've never even visited Cyprus!!!

Something fishy goes on here...

NB. The above procedure is for places with no landmarks.
When THERE IS a landmark it just gets highlighted by itself. In fact I beleive this is the way you located the Greek embassy, right?

I am still waiting for your explanation....

You may use the following satelite map (same format as that at Wiki) if you like. It shows a part of Nicosia.


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Nothing so radical. I used an online search to locate maps of Nicosia. From those maps, I had my reference to mark the map locations.

[Pyrpolizer]

Show me JUST ONE online map of Nicosia that has Bayrak (BRTK) on.

And a final question:Do you really live in Arkansas?

[Expatkiwi]

Show me JUST ONE online map of Nicosia that has Bayrak (BRTK) on.

And a final question:Do you really live in Arkansas?

Bayrak I stumbled upon on Wikimapia after marking in Ataturk Stadium, but it was easy to identify as it has a BRTK lettering made by trees in the front of the facility.

Yes, I do live in Arkansas, but how can I convince you of that? I am loathe to give out my actual address as it may provide some people here on the forum who don't exactly like me to send hate mail and the like..