Expatkiwi wrote:Yes, I was told that a lot of former TC land in the south was lost to them after December 1963. That's why the land percentages figure is listed as higher than the population percentaqge. So it seemed to me that "okay, if the Greek Cypriots are taking advantage of the stolen land in the south, then it's only fair to play tit-for-tat in the north". After all, I have no sympathy for bullies who get a taste of their own medicine.
First of all you seem to have a fixation on the issue of bullies.Of course nobody likes the bullies and of course everybody sides with the weak.
The question is who is the bullie in a conflict that consisted of a series of events. In the Cyprus problem we had the conflict of the 1955-60 period, the 1963 events, and the 1974. Some people in this forum e.g Piratis think the conflict started be the time the Turks came here in the 16th century. So first: who were the bullies in each of those periods, and why should anyone side with a victim who later became a bullie. It's like telling me you should side with the Israelis today because they were bullied in the past.
Anyhow: You took the events of 1963. Do you know who started it? Nobody knows. The fact is from 1960 (date of establishment of the Republic of Cyprus) up until 1962 the GCs were totally armless whereas the TCs were importing shiploads of arms from Turkey. This is a FACT. You can find more facts in the Cyprus Conflict web side which btw is considered rather biased in favor of the TCs. After 1962 the GCs started their own arm race (in response to what-tell me) and by the end of 1963 each side was READY. The readiness of BOTH sides can be verified on the how quickly the TCs got controll of all the area from Nicosia to the top of the mountains in the North, and the almost instant appearance of Samson a GC fanatic who started slaughtering innocent TCs in the suburb of Kuchuk Kaimakli
You said the TCs lost a "lot" of property in 1963. First of all the term "they lost property" is not correct.Yes a number of them have been forced to abandon their properties but nobody else got any title deed for them.The way the British established the lands department is impossible to transfer ownership without the physical presense and signing of the owner. Official Land ownership percentages DID NOT change bacause of that. In fact the ownership of those who were forced to abandon their properties in 1963 is valid until today.Be informed that a lot of TCs still hold their RoC titles deed papers until TODAY and they know very well their value.
Hence the correct term you should have uses is "they were forced to abandon their properties". So how many properties were they?From my memory it was a couple of villages. Do you know however that the GCs were also kicked out of 2 suburbs of Nicosia in that same period? Namely Trachonas and Omorfita? Still however neither the GCs lost the ownership of their properties.
Furthermore what do you mean "the land percentages figure is listed as higher than the population percentaqge. "? First of all you are totally wrong on the fact that abandoning ones properties meant also transfering the deed to someone else.(see above)
The Cyprus Republic was never the TRashNCan where you can steal someone elses property by collecting points from the Turkish army.
The privately owned lands were always an almost exact match of the population percentage both before and after 1963 in fact ever since the lands registry was established by the British in 1950. For the TCs it was 12.3 (18% of the population) and for the GC some 60% (82% of the population). In addition to that the Efkaf (TC relegious foundation) had some percentage.I don't remember how much was that, perhaps something between 1-3%. All these figures were at the Lands Registry Department which was created by the BRITISH in 1950.It was NOT created by the GCs.The percentages remained the same until 1974, in fact the Lands registry books for all the occupied part of Cyprus are until TODAY in the hands of the TCs. Why don't they publish them to prove their claims?
) in our beloved CyProb section (Btw, ADMIN this thread should be moved to the joke section thank you) and that some of you saw fit to indulge in his psychological attention seeking disorder, by giving him so much of your time and forum hard disk space!
