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Re: Eroglu:Velvet Partition

Postby YFred » Sat Jan 16, 2010 4:55 pm

kurupetos wrote:
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boulio wrote:Eroglu today stated that cyprus needs a velvet partition in the likes of czechoslovakia.He stated that the seperation should be agreed by both communities.He noted that people in the North are not concerned anymore for a solution and worry more about the economy.Since it looks like he will be the winner in aprils election i have a few questions:

Is there a G/C LEADER who would agree to a partition that is suitable to both sides?

And if there were a referendum do you think the G/C WOULD VOTE for it?

http://www.naftemporiki.gr/news/cstory.asp?id=1765025


I can be this person- giving you LOUROUTZINA and a boat to communicate with the rest World


Luckily for you YFred's contract has expired! :lol:

Betragullui, eat your words and hands off Lurucina. Although we welcome Maritsa and the rest of the GC Lurucadis.
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Postby ozlala » Sat Jan 16, 2010 5:58 pm

Oracle wrote:
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Oracle wrote:
ozlala wrote:
Oracle wrote:
ozlala wrote:thank you for welcoming me.
I don't think anyone is saying to the Greeks roll over and die nor did we ever wanted to get rid of the Greeks. we didn't even started the initial conflict. If in 1974 Greek army halted the aggression and left it the way it was then turkey would not have taken the action that they did. the Turkish Cypriots would have stayed as a second class citizen and just got on that way.


Which one was that?

I did say the initial Conflict 1963/64


What made you decide on 1963/1964 as the "initial conflict"?

"Initial" means something at the beginning, right?

Why don't you go back to the beginning and tell us what part the Turks played in any "initial conflict" then, at the beginning, since you are a stickler for initiations!


I would invite you to check the link which is independent.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Cyprus


What a complete and utter moronic propaganda bullshit merchant you have revealed yourself to be ...

If you have all the "answers"; why are you here where we are debating solutions to your "answer"?

Better still, don't "answer" but fuck off, apartheid establishing racist!


Thank you for your kind word
I understand you don't wont to hear the truth. Shame you feel that way.
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Postby Oracle » Sat Jan 16, 2010 6:08 pm

ozlala wrote:
Oracle wrote:
ozlala wrote:
Oracle wrote:
ozlala wrote:
Oracle wrote:
ozlala wrote:thank you for welcoming me.
I don't think anyone is saying to the Greeks roll over and die nor did we ever wanted to get rid of the Greeks. we didn't even started the initial conflict. If in 1974 Greek army halted the aggression and left it the way it was then turkey would not have taken the action that they did. the Turkish Cypriots would have stayed as a second class citizen and just got on that way.


Which one was that?

I did say the initial Conflict 1963/64


What made you decide on 1963/1964 as the "initial conflict"?

"Initial" means something at the beginning, right?

Why don't you go back to the beginning and tell us what part the Turks played in any "initial conflict" then, at the beginning, since you are a stickler for initiations!


I would invite you to check the link which is independent.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Cyprus


What a complete and utter moronic propaganda bullshit merchant you have revealed yourself to be ...

If you have all the "answers"; why are you here where we are debating solutions to your "answer"?

Better still, don't "answer" but fuck off, apartheid establishing racist!


Thank you for your kind word
I understand you don't wont to hear the truth. Shame you feel that way.


They were not meant to be kind. I am not kind to racist, partitionist, Human Rights abusers.

.... And don't waste our time with your "understanding" about "truth" from the pages of Wikipedia. :roll:
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Postby ozlala » Sat Jan 16, 2010 6:21 pm

Oracle wrote:
ozlala wrote:
Oracle wrote:
ozlala wrote:
Oracle wrote:
ozlala wrote:
Oracle wrote:
ozlala wrote:thank you for welcoming me.
I don't think anyone is saying to the Greeks roll over and die nor did we ever wanted to get rid of the Greeks. we didn't even started the initial conflict. If in 1974 Greek army halted the aggression and left it the way it was then turkey would not have taken the action that they did. the Turkish Cypriots would have stayed as a second class citizen and just got on that way.


Which one was that?

I did say the initial Conflict 1963/64


What made you decide on 1963/1964 as the "initial conflict"?

"Initial" means something at the beginning, right?

Why don't you go back to the beginning and tell us what part the Turks played in any "initial conflict" then, at the beginning, since you are a stickler for initiations!


I would invite you to check the link which is independent.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Cyprus


What a complete and utter moronic propaganda bullshit merchant you have revealed yourself to be ...

If you have all the "answers"; why are you here where we are debating solutions to your "answer"?

Better still, don't "answer" but fuck off, apartheid establishing racist!


Thank you for your kind word
I understand you don't wont to hear the truth. Shame you feel that way.


They were not meant to be kind. I am not kind to racist, partitionist, Human Rights abusers.

.... And don't waste our time with your "understanding" about "truth" from the pages of Wikipedia. :roll:


You must be young and upset. I am not racist.
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Postby ozlala » Sat Jan 16, 2010 6:30 pm

YFred wrote:
ozlala wrote:
Oracle wrote:
ozlala wrote:
Oracle wrote:
ozlala wrote:thank you for welcoming me.
I don't think anyone is saying to the Greeks roll over and die nor did we ever wanted to get rid of the Greeks. we didn't even started the initial conflict. If in 1974 Greek army halted the aggression and left it the way it was then turkey would not have taken the action that they did. the Turkish Cypriots would have stayed as a second class citizen and just got on that way.


Which one was that?

I did say the initial Conflict 1963/64


What made you decide on 1963/1964 as the "initial conflict"?

"Initial" means something at the beginning, right?

Why don't you go back to the beginning and tell us what part the Turks played in any "initial conflict" then, at the beginning, since you are a stickler for initiations!


I would invite you to check the link which is independent.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Cyprus

If you think you will talk sense to the CF Fascist Witch, you are mistaken fellow Lurucadi. She is the paid up member of the new Eoka-Crap terror group and has been terrorizing the CF TCs for some time.
But if you wish to continue, good luck.


I have come to that conclusion as well. he sound very scared!!!
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Postby YFred » Sat Jan 16, 2010 6:45 pm

ozlala wrote:
YFred wrote:
ozlala wrote:
Oracle wrote:
ozlala wrote:
Oracle wrote:
ozlala wrote:thank you for welcoming me.
I don't think anyone is saying to the Greeks roll over and die nor did we ever wanted to get rid of the Greeks. we didn't even started the initial conflict. If in 1974 Greek army halted the aggression and left it the way it was then turkey would not have taken the action that they did. the Turkish Cypriots would have stayed as a second class citizen and just got on that way.


Which one was that?

I did say the initial Conflict 1963/64


What made you decide on 1963/1964 as the "initial conflict"?

"Initial" means something at the beginning, right?

Why don't you go back to the beginning and tell us what part the Turks played in any "initial conflict" then, at the beginning, since you are a stickler for initiations!


I would invite you to check the link which is independent.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Northern_Cyprus

If you think you will talk sense to the CF Fascist Witch, you are mistaken fellow Lurucadi. She is the paid up member of the new Eoka-Crap terror group and has been terrorizing the CF TCs for some time.
But if you wish to continue, good luck.


I have come to that conclusion as well. he sound very scared!!!

We are not really scared of her, we are just pretending. She is actually like an old toothless bitch. You know like one of them belo hunting bitches. Nowadays, her bark is far more dangerous then her bite.
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Postby Malapapa » Sat Jan 16, 2010 6:49 pm

ozlala wrote:We are doing fine because Turkish army is there .


Fine. So there's no problem for you is there? This is the "Cyprus problem" section.

ozlala wrote:To be honest we would not do well without them . because we would be dominated by the Greek government.


The Greek government? What are you talking about? Do you mean the government of the free part of Cyprus?

ozlala wrote:We do hear the expresion from some not so educated Greek people may be not all but never the less is said that a good Turk is dad Turk. That is not right to say that. I do not say a good Greek is a dad one . I do wish to be able to form a good and an equal friendship with any Greek person.


Here's a forum where you can form lots of good and equal friendships with these fine people:

http://www.greekchat.com/

ozlala wrote:So I hope that our governments can come up with the solution. I am not anti Greek. I am for peace but the right peace for all.


I'm sure the people of Greece will be very relieved to hear that.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Jan 16, 2010 8:38 pm

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Happy negotiating, you will get much more of this if the polls are right and he is elected President.


Do you really believe this or just playing naive?

The leader of occupation is nothing more than a sad little puppet of Turkey who cannot even open a roadblock, or even fart, without the prior express approval of Turkey.

It makes f**k all of a difference if he is called Eroglou, Talat or Hasan..

Turkey alone will decide who the negotiator will be and what tune he will be singing (to best serve HER interests, not yours) and not the farce that you like to call "elections"..



Not long to go you will be begging for President Talats return. The combination of Christofias nad Talat is as good as it gets, we missed that opportunity.


If you think Talat is the man to get the job done, why don't you re-elect him.??

Oh, I almost forgot, because the TCs have SOLD their voting power to the settlers already, so to get their 13th salary over the years from Turkey.!

You still think Talat is his own man do you, VP.?

Well, if he is, lets see him cut a deal with the GCs before April based on what the EU expects, because so far he has been just the delivery boy to Turkey's demands and not TCs.!


Talat got into office on the I will solve the problem ticket, that train didnt arrive so the support has now gone Eroğlus way because you guys have shown that he is right when he says we will never find a solution with the GCs we should work for recognition which people have now started to support.
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Postby Kikapu » Sat Jan 16, 2010 9:10 pm

Viewpoint wrote:Talat got into office on the I will solve the problem ticket, that train didnt arrive so the support has now gone Eroğlus way because you guys have shown that he is right when he says we will never find a solution with the GCs we should work for recognition which people have now started to support.


You mean like what Denktash told you for 30 years and still no recognition. Go ahead and waste another 30 years for nothing with Eroglu if you want, while the RoC gets economically, legally and politically stronger and the north stays where it was 30 years ago. Once the Orams case is finalized, then watch the "fireworks" start for the further economical destruction of the north. If Talat wanted a settlement based on EU principles and the UN resolutions, he could have gotten one over a year ago, but instead he has been wanting in bringing the Annan Plan back each step of the way, you know, that AP that was defeated by all Cypriots (and settlers) who voted 55.5% vs. 44.5% against it. All Talat has been good for was to put on a "good guy" image and nothing else, because like all puppets, it is the puppeteer who pulls the strings. The puppet only pretends to be talking but in fact they are only a dummy.

Therefore, it makes no difference who the dummy is, because the puppeteer is still the same. So just admit it that Talat was just wasting everyone’s time by him going through the motions of wanting a solution because he was just replacing Denktash ordered by Turkey to try and get the Annan Plan passed and that didn't work either. Partition is what the AP was, so you are back to square one again with your real desires, except things have changed since 2004, and that the RoC with it's Veto Power over Turkey's EU ambitions have levelled the playing field, so when the time comes for Turkey to become a EU member, when ever that may be, it's not really important as to when, just be prepared to accept what ever Turkey will make you accept, which may be far less than you would have gotten under the BBF.!!
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Postby ozlala » Sat Jan 16, 2010 10:54 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Talat got into office on the I will solve the problem ticket, that train didnt arrive so the support has now gone Eroğlus way because you guys have shown that he is right when he says we will never find a solution with the GCs we should work for recognition which people have now started to support.


You mean like what Denktash told you for 30 years and still no recognition. Go ahead and waste another 30 years for nothing with Eroglu if you want, while the RoC gets economically, legally and politically stronger and the north stays where it was 30 years ago. Once the Orams case is finalized, then watch the "fireworks" start for the further economical destruction of the north. If Talat wanted a settlement based on EU principles and the UN resolutions, he could have gotten one over a year ago, but instead he has been wanting in bringing the Annan Plan back each step of the way, you know, that AP that was defeated by all Cypriots (and settlers) who voted 55.5% vs. 44.5% against it. All Talat has been good for was to put on a "good guy" image and nothing else, because like all puppets, it is the puppeteer who pulls the strings. The puppet only pretends to be talking but in fact they are only a dummy.

Therefore, it makes no difference who the dummy is, because the puppeteer is still the same. So just admit it that Talat was just wasting everyone’s time by him going through the motions of wanting a solution because he was just replacing Denktash ordered by Turkey to try and get the Annan Plan passed and that didn't work either. Partition is what the AP was, so you are back to square one again with your real desires, except things have changed since 2004, and that the RoC with it's Veto Power over Turkey's EU ambitions have levelled the playing field, so when the time comes for Turkey to become a EU member, when ever that may be, it's not really important as to when, just be prepared to accept what ever Turkey will make you accept, which may be far less than you would have gotten under the BBF.!!


Dream on about thinking that we are in the same situation as 30 years ago. we have proved that relatively we can survive and prosper more then the Greeks, the Greek people have the advantage and the support of the world. we are very limited yet we made a success. I am not sure about taking another 30 years, time will come that the world will realize that TRNC will have to be recognized and be respected.
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