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Eroglu:Velvet Partition

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Postby Oracle » Fri Jan 15, 2010 9:45 pm

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Re: Eroglu:Velvet Partition

Postby kurupetos » Fri Jan 15, 2010 11:34 pm

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boulio wrote:Eroglu today stated that cyprus needs a velvet partition in the likes of czechoslovakia.He stated that the seperation should be agreed by both communities.He noted that people in the North are not concerned anymore for a solution and worry more about the economy.Since it looks like he will be the winner in aprils election i have a few questions:

Is there a G/C LEADER who would agree to a partition that is suitable to both sides?

And if there were a referendum do you think the G/C WOULD VOTE for it?

http://www.naftemporiki.gr/news/cstory.asp?id=1765025


I can be this person- giving you LOUROUTZINA and a boat to communicate with the rest World


Luckily for you YFred's contract has expired! :lol:
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Postby Viewpoint » Fri Jan 15, 2010 11:35 pm

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Happy negotiating, you will get much more of this if the polls are right and he is elected President.


Do you really believe this or just playing naive?

The leader of occupation is nothing more than a sad little puppet of Turkey who cannot even open a roadblock, or even fart, without the prior express approval of Turkey.

It makes f**k all of a difference if he is called Eroglou, Talat or Hasan..

Turkey alone will decide who the negotiator will be and what tune he will be singing (to best serve HER interests, not yours) and not the farce that you like to call "elections"..



Not long to go you will be begging for President Talats return. The combination of Christofias nad Talat is as good as it gets, we missed that opportunity.
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Postby kurupetos » Fri Jan 15, 2010 11:39 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Tony-4497 wrote:
Happy negotiating, you will get much more of this if the polls are right and he is elected President.


Do you really believe this or just playing naive?

The leader of occupation is nothing more than a sad little puppet of Turkey who cannot even open a roadblock, or even fart, without the prior express approval of Turkey.

It makes f**k all of a difference if he is called Eroglou, Talat or Hasan..

Turkey alone will decide who the negotiator will be and what tune he will be singing (to best serve HER interests, not yours) and not the farce that you like to call "elections"..



Not long to go you will be begging for President Talats return. The combination of Christofias nad Talat is as good as it gets, we missed that opportunity.


Mostly you, I would say.
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Postby B25 » Fri Jan 15, 2010 11:40 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Tony-4497 wrote:
Happy negotiating, you will get much more of this if the polls are right and he is elected President.


Do you really believe this or just playing naive?

The leader of occupation is nothing more than a sad little puppet of Turkey who cannot even open a roadblock, or even fart, without the prior express approval of Turkey.

It makes f**k all of a difference if he is called Eroglou, Talat or Hasan..

Turkey alone will decide who the negotiator will be and what tune he will be singing (to best serve HER interests, not yours) and not the farce that you like to call "elections"..



Not long to go you will be begging for President Talats return. The combination of Christofias nad Talat is as good as it gets, we missed that opportunity.


Well in that case, good bye and good riddens, blackmail threats mean jack shit mate. You need us more than we you. One way or another we will get whats ours back. Bye bye loser.
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Postby Viewpoint » Fri Jan 15, 2010 11:46 pm

B25 wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Tony-4497 wrote:
Happy negotiating, you will get much more of this if the polls are right and he is elected President.


Do you really believe this or just playing naive?

The leader of occupation is nothing more than a sad little puppet of Turkey who cannot even open a roadblock, or even fart, without the prior express approval of Turkey.

It makes f**k all of a difference if he is called Eroglou, Talat or Hasan..

Turkey alone will decide who the negotiator will be and what tune he will be singing (to best serve HER interests, not yours) and not the farce that you like to call "elections"..



Not long to go you will be begging for President Talats return. The combination of Christofias nad Talat is as good as it gets, we missed that opportunity.


Well in that case, good bye and good riddens, blackmail threats mean jack shit mate. You need us more than we you. One way or another we will get whats ours back. Bye bye loser.


36 years tick tock...proves you wrong.
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Postby Kikapu » Sat Jan 16, 2010 12:55 am

Viewpoint wrote:
Tony-4497 wrote:
Happy negotiating, you will get much more of this if the polls are right and he is elected President.


Do you really believe this or just playing naive?

The leader of occupation is nothing more than a sad little puppet of Turkey who cannot even open a roadblock, or even fart, without the prior express approval of Turkey.

It makes f**k all of a difference if he is called Eroglou, Talat or Hasan..

Turkey alone will decide who the negotiator will be and what tune he will be singing (to best serve HER interests, not yours) and not the farce that you like to call "elections"..



Not long to go you will be begging for President Talats return. The combination of Christofias nad Talat is as good as it gets, we missed that opportunity.


If you think Talat is the man to get the job done, why don't you re-elect him.??

Oh, I almost forgot, because the TCs have SOLD their voting power to the settlers already, so to get their 13th salary over the years from Turkey.!

You still think Talat is his own man do you, VP.?

Well, if he is, lets see him cut a deal with the GCs before April based on what the EU expects, because so far he has been just the delivery boy to Turkey's demands and not TCs.!
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Postby Get Real! » Sat Jan 16, 2010 1:26 am

Tony-4497 wrote:I could live with an even higher %.. say 18% or even 20% max (land and coastline)

Why on earth would you want to do that? :? Are you gifting your property and that of all your relatives because I can’t imagine you suggesting that they take someone else’s! :?
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Postby ozlala » Sat Jan 16, 2010 1:13 pm

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ozlala wrote:thank you for welcoming me.
I don't think anyone is saying to the Greeks roll over and die nor did we ever wanted to get rid of the Greeks. we didn't even started the initial conflict. If in 1974 Greek army halted the aggression and left it the way it was then turkey would not have taken the action that they did. the Turkish Cypriots would have stayed as a second class citizen and just got on that way.


Which one was that?

I did say the initial Conflict 1963/64
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Postby ozlala » Sat Jan 16, 2010 1:24 pm

Tony-4497 wrote:
Oracle wrote:
Tony-4497 wrote:
Get Real! wrote:I would only accept if the TCs were to...

1. Take the 12.3% they actually owned and nothing more.

2. Build a 6m wall around themselves.

3. No entry to the RoC whatsoever.

4. No chance of the microstate ever being gifted to Turkey.


I could live with an even higher %.. say 18% or even 20% max (land and coastline)

..but would need solid security guarantees and limits on flow of Turkish settlers in both states too (because the microstate will effectively be part of Turkey whatever the name is)


Don't get carried away. I am sure GR! was joking. It's not about % of land, it's about territorial and sovereign integrity. It's about a future for our children free from the "smash and grab" mentality of their nearest neighbours. By relinquishing even 1% you have given them a prize for their wrongdoings, and they will continue chipping away at our heritage.

We have to do what's right and not give way to blackmail. We're talking thousands of years of civilisation where our people have striven to improve man's lot and here you are talking about just giving away to the foreign invaders "some" land and apologetically asking for "security" and guarantees! Have you learnt nothing? :roll:


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Do you know of even a single place that Turkey colonised with settlers which was later recovered by its rightful owners?

Sometimes, it's better to amputate a tiny part of your body in order to save the rest.. the alternative solution being discussed will just extend the rule of Turkey (through settlers, not TCs) to the entire island..

But for this to happen though, the part to lose needs to be really small.. otherwise, it makes more sense to keep fighting to save the entire island, through courts and blocking Turkey's EU path..


How can you say to save the entire island. do you mean to get rid of the Turks. (I don't mean the solders) Turkish Cypriots don't need saving anymore they are saved and surviving well even with embargo.
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