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Postby paliometoxo » Tue Jan 26, 2010 9:24 pm

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paliometoxo wrote:or nothing it is because we will never accept two states in any form and for there to be solution both sides must accept...


The you have the right to reject it in a referendum.


what makes you so sure we will go that far?.. christophias is obviously not going to let us vote on such a thing any more then talat/turkey would say lets go home to turkey
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Postby boulio » Tue Jan 26, 2010 9:28 pm

can g/c live and vote in the north state?
can they invest in the north state?


so can they viewpoint ?
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Jan 26, 2010 9:30 pm

paliometoxo wrote:
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paliometoxo wrote:or nothing it is because we will never accept two states in any form and for there to be solution both sides must accept...


The you have the right to reject it in a referendum.


what makes you so sure we will go that far?.. christophias is obviously not going to let us vote on such a thing any more then talat/turkey would say lets go home to turkey


Your leader is currently negotiating a 2 state solution are you aware of this? if you do not agree with this then you cna reject it at the next referendum.
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Jan 26, 2010 9:30 pm

paliometoxo wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
paliometoxo wrote:or nothing it is because we will never accept two states in any form and for there to be solution both sides must accept...


The you have the right to reject it in a referendum.


what makes you so sure we will go that far?.. christophias is obviously not going to let us vote on such a thing any more then talat/turkey would say lets go home to turkey


Your leader is currently negotiating a 2 state solution as backed by the UN and EU are you aware of this? if you do not agree with this then you cna reject it at the next referendum.
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Postby paliometoxo » Tue Jan 26, 2010 9:40 pm

if such a solution is put forward i myself will reject.. but i am just one person
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Postby Malapapa » Tue Jan 26, 2010 9:48 pm

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Your leader is currently negotiating a 2 state solution as backed by the UN and EU are you aware of this? if you do not agree with this then you cna reject it at the next referendum.


OK. Let's cut this crap once and for all.

Here are the two definitions of state:

a. politically organised body of people usually occupying a definite territory; especially one that is sovereign;

b. one of the constituent units of a nation having a federal government.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/netdict/state

The President is negotiating using the 'b' definition, backed by the UN and EU. Talat is negotiating using the 'a' definition, backed by Turkey.

All free Cypriots and their president REJECT the 'a' definition but will negotiate the 'b' definition until the cows (or in our case donkeys) come home.

Do you get it now, Viewpoint?
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Jan 26, 2010 11:10 pm

Malapapa wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Your leader is currently negotiating a 2 state solution as backed by the UN and EU are you aware of this? if you do not agree with this then you cna reject it at the next referendum.


OK. Let's cut this crap once and for all.

Here are the two definitions of state:

a. politically organised body of people usually occupying a definite territory; especially one that is sovereign;

b. one of the constituent units of a nation having a federal government.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/netdict/state

The President is negotiating using the 'b' definition, backed by the UN and EU. Talat is negotiating using the 'a' definition, backed by Turkey.

All free Cypriots and their president REJECT the 'a' definition but will negotiate the 'b' definition until the cows (or in our case donkeys) come home.

Do you get it now, Viewpoint?


So in short is it a 2 state solution whether its a or b?
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Jan 26, 2010 11:17 pm

Viewpoint wrote:So in short is it a 2 state solution whether its a or b?

The BBF “chance” is pretty much over.
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Postby Malapapa » Tue Jan 26, 2010 11:26 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
Malapapa wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Your leader is currently negotiating a 2 state solution as backed by the UN and EU are you aware of this? if you do not agree with this then you cna reject it at the next referendum.


OK. Let's cut this crap once and for all.

Here are the two definitions of state:

a. politically organised body of people usually occupying a definite territory; especially one that is sovereign;

b. one of the constituent units of a nation having a federal government.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/netdict/state

The President is negotiating using the 'b' definition, backed by the UN and EU. Talat is negotiating using the 'a' definition, backed by Turkey.

All free Cypriots and their president REJECT the 'a' definition but will negotiate the 'b' definition until the cows (or in our case donkeys) come home.

Do you get it now, Viewpoint?


So in short is it a 2 state solution whether its a or b?


No more constructive ambiguity, Viewpoint. It's a Kissinger tactics that has gotten us nowhere.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constructive_ambiguity

It's a negotiated b. or nothing.
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Jan 26, 2010 11:27 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:So in short is it a 2 state solution whether its a or b?

The BBF “chance” is pretty much over.


Thin you should inform your leader.
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