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[Hermes]

Give it up mate, the Republic of Cyprus has just had its legal and territorial sovereignty over the whole island upheld in the international courts. Do you think we're about to agree to its partition? This is bullshit. It just ain't going to happen. Velvet partition? What on earth are you smoking?

I'm not smoking anything, Hermes. I'm just passing along an article that appeared in the Guardian newspaper.

This "article" was written by Simon Tisdall. A poor lazy excuse for a journalist who recently wrote a terrible piece about Turkey's new "friendship" diplomacy. All he does is quote Turkish government sources and puff it up into a news story. Not one quote from an ROC source is there? You would have thought we would have a word to say on the matter!

It is not news that Eroglu wants a separate state. A more thoughtful piece would have explained why this is a useless fantasy that has had its day. But this is the Guardian we're talking about...

[vaughanwilliams]

Give it up mate, the Republic of Cyprus has just had its legal and territorial sovereignty over the whole island upheld in the international courts. Do you think we're about to agree to its partition? This is bullshit. It just ain't going to happen. Velvet partition? What on earth are you smoking?

Is that the "whole island" including or less the SBAs

[Hermes]

Give it up mate, the Republic of Cyprus has just had its legal and territorial sovereignty over the whole island upheld in the international courts. Do you think we're about to agree to its partition? This is bullshit. It just ain't going to happen. Velvet partition? What on earth are you smoking?

Is that the "whole island" including or less the SBAs

The Orams case has nothing to do with the SBAs. What on earth makes you think that? The ROC will deal with the issue of the British bases on the island when necessary. It is not exactly a priority right now.

[vaughanwilliams]

Give it up mate, the Republic of Cyprus has just had its legal and territorial sovereignty over the whole island upheld in the international courts. Do you think we're about to agree to its partition? This is bullshit. It just ain't going to happen. Velvet partition? What on earth are you smoking?

Is that the "whole island" including or less the SBAs

The Orams case has nothing to do with the SBAs. What on earth makes you think that? The ROC will deal with the issue of the British bases on the island when necessary. It is not exactly a priority right now.

I wasn't talking about the Orams and neither were you. I was pulling you up on your assertion that the Republic of Cyprus has just had its legal and territorial sovereignty over the whole island upheld, when we know full well that it has no such legal or territorial sovereignty over the SBAs. The "RoC" may very well deal with the SBAs when necessary, but that doesn't change the reality now.

[Hermes]

Give it up mate, the Republic of Cyprus has just had its legal and territorial sovereignty over the whole island upheld in the international courts. Do you think we're about to agree to its partition? This is bullshit. It just ain't going to happen. Velvet partition? What on earth are you smoking?

Is that the "whole island" including or less the SBAs

The Orams case has nothing to do with the SBAs. What on earth makes you think that? The ROC will deal with the issue of the British bases on the island when necessary. It is not exactly a priority right now.

I wasn't talking about the Orams and neither were you. I was pulling you up on your assertion that the Republic of Cyprus has just had its legal and territorial sovereignty over the whole island upheld, when we know full well that it has no such legal or territorial sovereignty over the SBAs. The "RoC" may very well deal with the SBAs when necessary, but that doesn't change the reality now.

So tell me something I don't know. Or are you just stating the bleeding obvious to waste everyone's time?

[vaughanwilliams]

Give it up mate, the Republic of Cyprus has just had its legal and territorial sovereignty over the whole island upheld in the international courts. Do you think we're about to agree to its partition? This is bullshit. It just ain't going to happen. Velvet partition? What on earth are you smoking?

Is that the "whole island" including or less the SBAs

The Orams case has nothing to do with the SBAs. What on earth makes you think that? The ROC will deal with the issue of the British bases on the island when necessary. It is not exactly a priority right now.

I wasn't talking about the Orams and neither were you. I was pulling you up on your assertion that the Republic of Cyprus has just had its legal and territorial sovereignty over the whole island upheld, when we know full well that it has no such legal or territorial sovereignty over the SBAs. The "RoC" may very well deal with the SBAs when necessary, but that doesn't change the reality now.

So tell me something I don't know. Or are you just stating the bleeding obvious to waste everyone's time?

Just pointing out a slight "exageration". We wouldn't want people to start accusing GCs of exageration, now would we?

[Hermes]

Give it up mate, the Republic of Cyprus has just had its legal and territorial sovereignty over the whole island upheld in the international courts. Do you think we're about to agree to its partition? This is bullshit. It just ain't going to happen. Velvet partition? What on earth are you smoking?

Is that the "whole island" including or less the SBAs

The Orams case has nothing to do with the SBAs. What on earth makes you think that? The ROC will deal with the issue of the British bases on the island when necessary. It is not exactly a priority right now.

I wasn't talking about the Orams and neither were you. I was pulling you up on your assertion that the Republic of Cyprus has just had its legal and territorial sovereignty over the whole island upheld, when we know full well that it has no such legal or territorial sovereignty over the SBAs. The "RoC" may very well deal with the SBAs when necessary, but that doesn't change the reality now.

So tell me something I don't know. Or are you just stating the bleeding obvious to waste everyone's time?

Just pointing out a slight "exageration". We wouldn't want people to start accusing GCs of exageration, now would we?

It's hardly an "exaggeration" when it's irrelevant to the case at hand. The SBAs are another issue. Their presence can be dealt with at a later time. We have more pressing concerns with the Turks in northern Cyprus whose presence on the island is emphatically not tolerated.

[vaughanwilliams]

Give it up mate, the Republic of Cyprus has just had its legal and territorial sovereignty over the whole island upheld in the international courts. Do you think we're about to agree to its partition? This is bullshit. It just ain't going to happen. Velvet partition? What on earth are you smoking?

Is that the "whole island" including or less the SBAs

The Orams case has nothing to do with the SBAs. What on earth makes you think that? The ROC will deal with the issue of the British bases on the island when necessary. It is not exactly a priority right now.

I wasn't talking about the Orams and neither were you. I was pulling you up on your assertion that the Republic of Cyprus has just had its legal and territorial sovereignty over the whole island upheld, when we know full well that it has no such legal or territorial sovereignty over the SBAs. The "RoC" may very well deal with the SBAs when necessary, but that doesn't change the reality now.

So tell me something I don't know. Or are you just stating the bleeding obvious to waste everyone's time?

Just pointing out a slight "exageration". We wouldn't want people to start accusing GCs of exageration, now would we?

It's hardly an "exaggeration" when it's irrelevant to the case at hand. The SBAs are another issue. Their presence can be dealt with at a later time. We have more pressing concerns with the Turks in northern Cyprus whose presence on the island is emphatically not tolerated.

Sorry. To accuse someone of an exageration is a polite way of saying "You're talking Bollocks, mate." Exagerations are not irrelevant to any case: they are often used to substantiate something which is just plain not true.
"Facts" containing exagerations cease to be facts.

[Hermes]

Give it up mate, the Republic of Cyprus has just had its legal and territorial sovereignty over the whole island upheld in the international courts. Do you think we're about to agree to its partition? This is bullshit. It just ain't going to happen. Velvet partition? What on earth are you smoking?

Is that the "whole island" including or less the SBAs

The Orams case has nothing to do with the SBAs. What on earth makes you think that? The ROC will deal with the issue of the British bases on the island when necessary. It is not exactly a priority right now.

I wasn't talking about the Orams and neither were you. I was pulling you up on your assertion that the Republic of Cyprus has just had its legal and territorial sovereignty over the whole island upheld, when we know full well that it has no such legal or territorial sovereignty over the SBAs. The "RoC" may very well deal with the SBAs when necessary, but that doesn't change the reality now.

So tell me something I don't know. Or are you just stating the bleeding obvious to waste everyone's time?

Just pointing out a slight "exageration". We wouldn't want people to start accusing GCs of exageration, now would we?

It's hardly an "exaggeration" when it's irrelevant to the case at hand. The SBAs are another issue. Their presence can be dealt with at a later time. We have more pressing concerns with the Turks in northern Cyprus whose presence on the island is emphatically not tolerated.

Sorry. To accuse someone of an exageration is a polite way of saying "You're talking Bollocks, mate." Exagerations are not irrelevant to any case: they are often used to substantiate something which is just plain not true.
"Facts" containing exagerations cease to be facts.

What on earth are you talking about? The British bases are not an issue here. It has nothing to do with the Orams case. This case is about the validity and execution of ROC verdicts in the European courts. Not about the sovereign base areas. What is your problem? The British High court ruled that:

"The courts in Britain must demonstrate respect for the independence, territorial integrity and sovereignty of Cyprus."

I think that's pretty clear what I meant. Now stop being obtuse. Or I'll think you're just not happy with this verdict.

[SKI-preo]

Velvet doesn't smell like napalm bombs dropped on a school bus full of kids,grandmothers and mums in 1974. Some Turkish Cypriots prefer a Velcro(TM) partition (jame pou tous siferi mono partition) but when they want to travel in the EU they do so on Republic of Cyprus Pass Ports partition on and partition off.