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[Oracle]

We who live in the UK do not have any power over what the British Government decide to do !

But we respect the government's decision. What is more those group members will be imprisoned if they carry on with their planned march or other activities.

But when the Brits who organised building a "memorial" in Cyprus to their dead, and where told by the RoC they couldn't, they forced their "activity" upon us by making convenient use of the lawless occupied north.

The Telegraph had a fund-raising campaign for this "memorial" which was forced on the Cypriot people made helpless by the Turks.

I'm just highlighting how those Brits with their "Memorial" and the Telegraph as a fund raiser, were behaving in someone else's country i.e. like "Islam4UK" group ...

But, see how hard the UK came down on them! No quibbling about "freedom of speech" or minority rights ....

[miltiades]

The decision to go ahead with the memorial in occupied Cyprus was wrong . The RoC should have encouraged that the memorial be erected in British sovereign areas of Cyprus .The British act in doing so in the occupied part of Cyprus was diplomatically a blunder . The Anti British brigade has been given more ammunition by this irresponsible act. Is it not enough that thousands of cheap Brits have bought stolen properties in the occupied parts whilst at the same time directing their ferocious hatred spurned on by greed , against the G/Cs. Had I not be as close to the Brits as I'm , I too would have expressed anti British sentiments , thankfully I have always believed in the existence of two Brits , the good , which is the best in the world , and the not so good . Never has the phrase good and bad in every race been more profoundly true than in Britain , the nation of the true gentlemen and ladies , the Angels that look after the sick and the needy , the animal welfare carers , and the nation of the archetypal yobs and cheapskates .

[TALISMAN]

Maybe we should get back on the original track


Quoting: Ally Bell
A town famous for honouring dead British soldiers returning from Afghanistan has reacted defiantly to news that a controversial Islamic group is to march through its streets.

Islam4UK - which calls itself a "platform" for extremist movement al-Muhajiroun - plans to parade through Wootton Bassett, in Wiltshire, in the coming weeks.

The group’s website says the event is being held "not in memory of the occupying and merciless British military" but of the Muslims its says have been "murdered in the name of democracy and freedom".

Leader Anjem Choudary said that the protest, involving 500 people, would be a peaceful one, with "symbolic coffins" being carried to honour Muslim victims of the conflict.

But the walk will not coincide with the return of a dead soldier’s body, added Mr Choudary, 42, a former lawyer from East London.

Hundreds of people line the market town’s High Street every week to watch servicemen’s bodies being driven through from RAF Lyneham.

Family and friends of the fallen, shopkeepers, and British Legion members wait in all weathers to pay silent tribute to a cortege of Union flag-draped coffins.

Ex-mayor and councillor Chris Wannell said: "We don’t do what we do at Wootton Bassett for any political reason at all, but to pay our respects to those who have given their lives for our freedom.

"We are a Christian country and a traditional old English market town who honour very much our Queen and country. We obey the law and pay respects to our servicemen who protect our freedom.
"If this man has any decency about him he will not hold a march through Wootton Bassett."



A spokeswoman for Wiltshire Police said: "Wiltshire Police respect the right of the public to partake in peaceful protests, however public safety is of paramount importance to the force and any breach of the law will be dealt with in the appropriate manner."

[Oracle]

Seems to me a little hypocritical for the UK to ban an organisation for simply staging a march to highlight those killed in Afghanistan on the "other" side when not too long ago the Brits were raising money to build a "Memorial" to EOKA "victims" in Cyprus.

So, it's perfectly OK to force your British "memorials" in another sovereign country, against the citizens' wishes ... but it's not alright for these British-Islam citizens to stage a mere march as a memorial to their dead at the hands of Brits ....


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstop ... anned.html

What a bizarre and rather stupid post by a hitherto intelligent albeit mixed up individual. You are being bloody stupid , the two events are as different as chalk and cheese , I think you most certainly have got your knickers in a twist.

No they are not! You're to shallow to dig deeper.

Read my reply to "Twilight".

The "Memorial Brits" forced the continuation of their statement for their dead upon the Cypriot people and going against the RoC. Here the UK, legitimately, objected to these British citizens doing a similar "memorial" (which wouldn't even have been permanent, but a simple march, through hallowed Wootton Bassett).

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... aph#436851

[Oracle]

Seems to me a little hypocritical for the UK to ban an organisation for simply staging a march to highlight those killed in Afghanistan on the "other" side when not too long ago the Brits were raising money to build a "Memorial" to EOKA "victims" in Cyprus.

So, it's perfectly OK to force your British "memorials" in another sovereign country, against the citizens' wishes ... but it's not alright for these British-Islam citizens to stage a mere march as a memorial to their dead at the hands of Brits ....


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstop ... anned.html

I suppose O when you in Cyprus eventually get the spread of Islam(purely something they hide under) coming to your shores and it will, as Cyprus is a Christian country and close to many muslim countries, and the Cyprus Govt does,nt do as they want at all times you too will feel their wrath on the streets here. You do know that you don,t actually need to invade a country to experience terrorism although I personally abhore it. You obviously forgot to mention the march against the war in Iraq 'Not in my name' I was there

Some people seem to spend lots of time trawling the net for the info they want to make their point, disregarding any other I suppose its called too much time on your hands and maybe too much hate in your heart.

I don't know what you are talking about. Is showing concern for government decisions, terrorist gangs and Brits willfully terrorising Cyprus, backed by the Telegraph, something to be ignored?

We're not discussing the rights and wrongs of Britain's wars, but whether British citizens (Islam4UK) have the right to form organisations which object to these activities and be able to demonstrate on the streets ... Yes the "Not in my name" was allowed to go on. So why was this Islamic group banned from marching through WB?

Because of sensitivities ... that's all! Sod their "minority rights" ... RoC take note!

But, where were those same "sensitivities" when the Telegraph was fund raising for a "memorial" to be forced on the Cypriot people, in their own land!

[Oracle]

the Brits were raising money to build a "Memorial" to EOKA "victims" in Cyprus.

So, it's perfectly OK to force your British "memorials" in another sovereign country, against the citizens' wishes ...

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstop ... anned.html

I don,t know much about this but the reason for it being put in Kyrenia is dubious and not wise I suppose, a refusal from the RoC to have it here is one, but in the rest of the world bitter enemies from WW11 have graveyards for the enemy dead on their soil and encourage decades later relatives to visit. I wonder why this evades Cyprus?

It doesn't. Cyprus already has a Memorial graveyard for those who died preventing our fight for freedom.

The RoC refusing to have this Telegraph-backed "Memorial" is now perfectly vindicated in light of what the UK government has done in stopping the Islamists' "memorial march".

Telegraph take note that you supported those terrorist Brits who went against the legitimate wishes of a sovereign nation and forced their insensitive "memorial" on our soil.

How are those "Memorial" fund-raising Brits with their clandestine operations, their propaganda websites, their purchasing of stolen properties, their lawlessness and trampling over citizens sensitivities, any different to "Islam4UK"?

[Me Ed]

If you in any doubt what Islam4UK is about, check this out from their leader:

It is no doubt an extremist organisation ...

... and this man recieves £25,000 a year in state benefits to spread his hate.



Well done the UK.

[beverley10]

The good people of Wootten Bassett are an example to all law abiding,hard working non racist people anywhere in the world.They simply pay their respects to the young men and women dying while doing their job!The fact that their "job" is as a member of one of the armed forces of the UK and could be of any religious belief is totally irrelevant to Wootten Bassetts people,so stop calling them racist in not wanting an extremist group parading coffins through their town.They should be given a medal not ridicule and accusation.This forum at one time was anice place to visit but the hatred and vitriol expressed by some members shows perfectly why the world is so full of hate.No doubt I shall be on the end of nasty replies to what is just an opinion in reply to the original post.\my own Father gave his life in the last war so I know what it is to lose someone too.God Bless you Wootten Bassett keep up the good work.

[TALISMAN]

Not from me

[beverley10]

Thanks Talisman I allready thought your reply was as mine.xx