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[Expatkiwi]

Actually Palio, I think my stance is the most humane of them all. Oracle stands for Hellenization of the island, which means to totally assimilate the Turkish Cypriot minority into the Greek majority and therefore remove their culture - kind of like what occured with the turkish minority in Greece. On the other side, the Anatolianization of TRNC by Turkey is turning the TRNC literally into a piece of Mainland Turkey ("Little Anatolia"), which is likewise removing the Turkish Cypriot culture. Only by supporting a non-aligned Turkish Cypriot country which is not part of either is there hope...

[paliometoxo]

there is never irreversable damange done.. like the wall in germany.. like many other countries with conflicts.. enosis? what about taskim the turkish dream of partition?

it only appears that way because we have old men who think like you negotiating at the table. they only go through the motions because some of the older generation teach them to think like this.

it does not matter which side of the oarder you live in but you still live with gcs and are just fine. and plenty of others living with us just fine and mixed village.. where was the war?

its because people are living in the past and thinking like this that there is no chance of a solution and is making it harder. i think both sides did some stupid things which helped partition cyprus. including enosis and taksim.

its time to get over the past and realise that the newer generation have done nothing and should be tought to not hate.

your point was that we cant live together when many of us do live together many of us travel to the other side no problems. just like many in england dont care and are best of friends. in another country they mostly dont care. they seem to be able to just fine.

eoka rightfully reblled against the tmt attacks also.

by the brave turkish army? there is hardly any of us gcs here its like going after a fly with a bazooka you dont have to be brave when there is so many of them and so little of us. and when there is no chance of war.

at the beginning i would agree with you at the green line was dangerous the soldiers tried to push eachother in the buffer zone to shoot eachother. but now things have changed you can sit there and live int he 35 years ago. When you learnt o let go and teach younger generations then eventually you can have peace and eventually none of this hate and blame game

[paliometoxo]

Actually Palio, I think my stance is the most humane of them all. Oracle stands for Hellenization of the island, which means to totally assimilate the Turkish Cypriot minority into the Greek majority and therefore remove their culture - kind of like what occured with the turkish minority in Greece. On the other side, the Anatolianization of TRNC by Turkey is turning the TRNC literally into a piece of Mainland Turkey ("Little Anatolia"), which is likewise removing the Turkish Cypriot culture. Only by supporting a non-aligned Turkish Cypriot country which is not part of either is there hope...

actually some of the greek cypriot converted to muslim to avoid taxes in the ottoman period.

and their culture their language is being removed by the turks though. there is hardly any of them left and turkey is doing a good job of completely destroying anything tc.

if greece where to acknowladge a turkish minority that would be a BIG mistake they saw what it did in cyprus. they got a 40k army splitting the island in two.. this way in greece they have no threat of trouble from the turks.

exactly no hope and because the tcs allowed the turks to come and do this. there is no chance of having a tc state.. because the tcs rely 100% on turkey its all turkeys call. its not a tc state but a turkish state which they are trying to legalise.

there are plenty of tcs living abroad even happier and gcs.

[denizaksulu]

tourkos is for one turk you say tourkous for lots of them.

and while on tyhe turkish side they are saying.. we better tell tmt to start wars again so we can officially have our trnc to totally turkify the north of cyprus..

btw in turkish what does GABira mean? in greek it means toast..

but anyway the greek cypriots who hate the turks and say cyprus is greek dont need to lift a finger your own mumma turkey is killing off anything turkish cypriot for them they just sit back and let turkey do their job for them

i am not one of these gcs i have plenty of turk friends.. just ones who want a re unified land not ones that think like you and vp and zan and expat and the partitionists on the island

Gabira, toasted olives, tea without milk and halloumi was our daily breakfast in the village.

[Expatkiwi]

What Associated Press said:

NICOSIA, Cyprus – Political leaders expressed shock Tuesday at the slaying of a powerful publisher, puzzling over possible motives for a killing that stirred feelings of insecurity on this war-divided island.

Andy Hadjicostis, the 41-year-old director of the Dias publishing group, was fatally shot late Monday outside his home in central Nicosia, in an attack that bore the hallmarks of a contract killing.

Police spokesman Michalis Kastounotos said the victim was shot twice — in the back and chest — as he stepped out of his car. He died at the scene, in an upscale area of the Cypriot capital that includes several embassy compounds and is heavily policed.

The spokesman said the gunman fled on a motorcycle driven by an accomplice. No shell casings were found.

Hadjicostis was seen as a rising star in the island's majority Greek Cypriot community, taking over a media stable founded by his father.

It includes the private Sigma television station, the conservative daily Simerini, a popular radio station and several magazines.

Hadjicostis was a vocal critic of a United Nations draft settlement plan to reunify the island that was rejected by Greek Cypriots in a 2004 referendum.

Settlement talks restarted in 2008 and are ongoing.

Cyprus has been split since 1974 when Turkey invaded after a coup by supporters of union with Greece. The island joined the European Union six years ago, but only Greek Cypriots enjoy the benefits of membership.

The island's president, Dimitris Christofias, took a break from renewed settlement negotiations to visit the victim's family.

"The police will exhaust all their resources to solve this horrible crime," Christofias said. "These are like scenes from an ancient tragedy ... The family's pain is unfathomable."

Former president Tassos Papadopoulos' corpse was stolen from his grave on Nicosia's outskirts last month. He was seen by some nationalist Greek Cypriots as a symbol of resistance against peace deals they believe have been weighted against them.

Parliament speaker Marios Karoyan said the shooting may have been an attempt to destabilize the island but did not elaborate.

"Our democracy is strong enough to withstand acts of violence like this," he said. "We will not let lawlessness, crime and murder prevail."

The daily Simerini suggested Hadjicostis' murder may have been linked to the theft of Papadopoulos' corpse.

"Some people don't want this place to calm down. They don't want citizens to live in conditions of security and calm," it said in a front-page editorial."

"We ... assure the Greeks of Cyprus that we will not cower. We are not terrorized or intimidated and ... will not succumb to criminals."

I'm a little perturbed at the last sentence in this dispatch: "THE GREEKS OF CYPRUS", not "ALL CYPRIOTS". Certainly no reference to Turkish Cypriots...

[paliometoxo]

tourkos is for one turk you say tourkous for lots of them.

and while on tyhe turkish side they are saying.. we better tell tmt to start wars again so we can officially have our trnc to totally turkify the north of cyprus..

btw in turkish what does GABira mean? in greek it means toast..

but anyway the greek cypriots who hate the turks and say cyprus is greek dont need to lift a finger your own mumma turkey is killing off anything turkish cypriot for them they just sit back and let turkey do their job for them

i am not one of these gcs i have plenty of turk friends.. just ones who want a re unified land not ones that think like you and vp and zan and expat and the partitionists on the island

Gabira, toasted olives, tea without milk and halloumi was our daily breakfast in the village.

lol and ours was similar exepct no olives they taste horrible

[Oracle]

tourkos is for one turk you say tourkous for lots of them.

and while on tyhe turkish side they are saying.. we better tell tmt to start wars again so we can officially have our trnc to totally turkify the north of cyprus..

btw in turkish what does GABira mean? in greek it means toast..

but anyway the greek cypriots who hate the turks and say cyprus is greek dont need to lift a finger your own mumma turkey is killing off anything turkish cypriot for them they just sit back and let turkey do their job for them

i am not one of these gcs i have plenty of turk friends.. just ones who want a re unified land not ones that think like you and vp and zan and expat and the partitionists on the island

Gabira, toasted olives, tea without milk and halloumi was our daily breakfast in the village.

Did you rub/squash juicy black olives onto the toast, instead of butter?

[denizaksulu]

tourkos is for one turk you say tourkous for lots of them.

and while on tyhe turkish side they are saying.. we better tell tmt to start wars again so we can officially have our trnc to totally turkify the north of cyprus..

btw in turkish what does GABira mean? in greek it means toast..

but anyway the greek cypriots who hate the turks and say cyprus is greek dont need to lift a finger your own mumma turkey is killing off anything turkish cypriot for them they just sit back and let turkey do their job for them

i am not one of these gcs i have plenty of turk friends.. just ones who want a re unified land not ones that think like you and vp and zan and expat and the partitionists on the island

Gabira, toasted olives, tea without milk and halloumi was our daily breakfast in the village.

lol and ours was similar exepct no olives they taste horrible

Ah, Panagia mou. Are you sure you are Cypriot?

Oh. Mosphilo jam too.

[paliometoxo]

tourkos is for one turk you say tourkous for lots of them.

and while on tyhe turkish side they are saying.. we better tell tmt to start wars again so we can officially have our trnc to totally turkify the north of cyprus..

btw in turkish what does GABira mean? in greek it means toast..

but anyway the greek cypriots who hate the turks and say cyprus is greek dont need to lift a finger your own mumma turkey is killing off anything turkish cypriot for them they just sit back and let turkey do their job for them

i am not one of these gcs i have plenty of turk friends.. just ones who want a re unified land not ones that think like you and vp and zan and expat and the partitionists on the island

Gabira, toasted olives, tea without milk and halloumi was our daily breakfast in the village.

lol and ours was similar exepct no olives they taste horrible

Ah, Panagia mou. Are you sure you are Cypriot?

Oh. Mosphilo jam too.

lol nai i am sigouros ;p

but the older generation all seem to love ouzo and zivania to. that stuff is nastyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy

my brother loves them and i think they taste horrible.

the jam your right. very nice.

[kurupetos]

tourkos is for one turk you say tourkous for lots of them.

and while on tyhe turkish side they are saying.. we better tell tmt to start wars again so we can officially have our trnc to totally turkify the north of cyprus..

btw in turkish what does GABira mean? in greek it means toast..

but anyway the greek cypriots who hate the turks and say cyprus is greek dont need to lift a finger your own mumma turkey is killing off anything turkish cypriot for them they just sit back and let turkey do their job for them

i am not one of these gcs i have plenty of turk friends.. just ones who want a re unified land not ones that think like you and vp and zan and expat and the partitionists on the island

Gabira, toasted olives, tea without milk and halloumi was our daily breakfast in the village.

I bet you had been calling halloumi halloumi and not hell...im