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Turkey's Proposals

Postby DT. » Tue Jan 12, 2010 9:54 am

When even Hurriyet concludes that these proposals are meant for a confederation and not a federation I want 3 peope on this forum to explain something to me.

Halil: Where is the BBF line you claim Turkey now follows?
Bananiot & Bir: Where are the Turkish concessions in respect to the revolving Presidency and the 50,000 settler number accepted by the President?

I haven't even started on the request for 2 FIR's and the Turkish population settlement rights.


http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php? ... 2010-01-11
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Postby Tony-4497 » Tue Jan 12, 2010 12:26 pm

This is the final proof that Christofias's "flexible" strategy for a solution "from Cypriots for Cypriots" (with his "friend" and "comrade" Talat) and full of "generous offers" (effectively disastrous concessions made to Turkey) is now officially bankrupt, having failed miserably.

The best service he can now offer to Cyprus people is to state that all "generous offers" are withdrawn, together with the catastrophic statement of 23 May - and explain to the UN that these were made without the authorisation of the Cyprus people (as he NEVER disclosed all these pre-election) and they do not bind future negotiators.

Then he should withdraw from the talks and state that no EU chapter can open or close for Turkey until all Turkish troops and settlers are withdrawn from the Republic of Cyprus. Nothing more and nothing less.
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Jan 12, 2010 12:39 pm

Tony-4497 wrote:This is the final proof that Christofias's "flexible" strategy for a solution "from Cypriots for Cypriots" (with his "friend" and "comrade" Talat) and full of "generous offers" (effectively disastrous concessions made to Turkey) is now officially bankrupt, having failed miserably.

The best service he can now offer to Cyprus people is to state that all "generous offers" are withdrawn, together with the catastrophic statement of 23 May - and explain to the UN that these were made without the authorisation of the Cyprus people (as he NEVER disclosed all these pre-election) and they do not bind future negotiators.

Then he should withdraw from the talks and state that no EU chapter can open or close for Turkey until all Turkish troops and settlers are withdrawn from the Republic of Cyprus. Nothing more and nothing less.

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Postby Acikgoz » Tue Jan 12, 2010 12:46 pm

Let us pray he withdraws.

Then we can move onto finding a real long lasting solution where the basis is one that can be built upon, rather than the farce of a appeasement solution of b'stardised federalism.
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Postby Get Real! » Tue Jan 12, 2010 12:49 pm

Acikgoz wrote:Let us pray he withdraws.

Then we can move onto finding a real long lasting solution where the basis is one that can be built upon, rather than the farce of a appeasement solution of b'stardised federalism.

Yup, like the single, democratic, one-person-one-vote, Republic under the EU! :D
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Postby Acikgoz » Tue Jan 12, 2010 12:54 pm

Yep, one democratic country in the south and one in the north.

Let happiness finally reign throughout these lands.
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Re: Turkey's Proposals

Postby Oracle » Tue Jan 12, 2010 1:03 pm

DT. wrote:When even Hurriyet concludes that these proposals are meant for a confederation and not a federation I want 3 peope on this forum to explain something to me.

Halil: Where is the BBF line you claim Turkey now follows?
Bananiot & Bir: Where are the Turkish concessions in respect to the revolving Presidency and the 50,000 settler number accepted by the President?

I haven't even started on the request for 2 FIR's and the Turkish population settlement rights.


http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/n.php? ... 2010-01-11


I don't have a Ph.D. in Politics so I would never understand who or what I'm voting for, under such a scheme :(

Help, EU! Come quick and stop this madness!

Anyway, at least they were rejected ...

Greek Cypriots reject Turkish Cypriots' proposals on eve of intensive peace talk
NICOSIA, Jan. 10 (Xinhua) -- The Greek Cypriot side rejected on Sunday proposals submitted by Turkish Cypriots regarding governance and power sharing, one day before the two communities' leaders start intensive talks aimed at speeding up the peace process.

The political parties on the Greek Cypriot side have described the new proposals as "unacceptable" and a public relations move by Turkey, who they believe is behind the blueprint.

"These proposals cannot form the basis for discussion," said government spokesman Stephanos Stephanou, following a meeting attended by leaders of Greek Cypriot parties.

"It was established at the meeting that the proposals ... are unacceptable and are way off the agreed basis for negotiations for a bi-communal bi-zonal federation, with political equality as this is defined in the relevant UN resolutions for a single state, with a single sovereignty, one international personality and a single citizenship," he added.
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Jan 12, 2010 11:21 pm

Yet another GC rejection, lets see what will follow something is abrewing and I dont think the GCs are gonna be happy, they are dubbed with yet another rejection great move by Turkey.
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Postby Hermes » Tue Jan 12, 2010 11:44 pm

Viewpoint wrote:Yet another GC rejection, lets see what will follow something is abrewing and I dont think the GCs are gonna be happy, they are dubbed with yet another rejection great move by Turkey.


I don't think anyone will blame the Greek Cypriots for rejecting Turkey's stupid proposals. I'm afraid the international community knows Turkey's games only too well. It's been explained to them many times. Turkey is behaving exactly like it's expected to.

In the meantime I would worry more about how Talat getting booted out on his arse in the coming "election" will look like abroad. Putting in a hard-line TMT man might satisfy the Grey Wolves but I doubt he'll play well outside of the enclave. Still, chin up...
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Jan 12, 2010 11:48 pm

Hermes wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Yet another GC rejection, lets see what will follow something is abrewing and I dont think the GCs are gonna be happy, they are dubbed with yet another rejection great move by Turkey.


I don't think anyone will blame the Greek Cypriots for rejecting Turkey's stupid proposals. I'm afraid the international community knows Turkey's games only too well. It's been explained to them many times. Turkey is behaving exactly like it's expected to.

In the meantime I would worry more about how Talat getting booted out on his arse in the coming "election" will look like abroad. Putting in a hard-line TMT man might satisfy the Grey Wolves but I doubt he'll play well outside of the enclave. Still, chin up...


You will need a stiff drink as things pan out, with Davutoğlu in the UK things appear to be heating up as Ban voices support things are about to come to a head, the papers all over the world are full of the GC rejection yet again, the Turks play this game well and will now capatilize on it with international diplomacy showing that GCs do not want a solution the proof being they reject everything out before them...go ahead play right into their hands it will suit them down to the ground.
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