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[Get Real!]

BirKibrisli you are so transparent.

Shame on you for taking advantage of GR!'s inebriated state ....

How do you know he is inebriated???

He made TWO spelling mistakes within about 5 posts!

I was drinking… I had to calm myself down because the people doing my patio foolishly blocked my sewerage system by accident; they allowed material to flow into a pipe and it hardened! …so they’re here again today digging the place up to replace the blocked pipe etc… so I was furious!

[BirKibrisli]

The TCs had carried out a coup in 1963 against the government, violently enforced it for years whilst threatening and terrorising the GCs with partition and reinforcing their "might" as a tyrannous minority with Turkey's belligerent aerial and marine attacks (1964). The GCs had to resort to using the services of the UN to establish some degree of normality. And so on ... none of it "revisionist" but all substantiated with facts and evidence.

Then there must be a parallel Cyprus you are talking about...The Cyprus I lived in during 63-74 was nothing like what you are describing above... You are on the wrong Forum...Better find the forum for your Cyprus,and stop driving people up the wall with drivel like the above...

[Oracle]

The TCs had carried out a coup in 1963 against the government, violently enforced it for years whilst threatening and terrorising the GCs with partition and reinforcing their "might" as a tyrannous minority with Turkey's belligerent aerial and marine attacks (1964). The GCs had to resort to using the services of the UN to establish some degree of normality. And so on ... none of it "revisionist" but all substantiated with facts and evidence.

Then there must be a parallel Cyprus you are talking about...The Cyprus I lived in during 63-74 was nothing like what you are describing above... You are on the wrong Forum...Better find the forum for your Cyprus,and stop driving people up the wall with drivel like the above...

What! No "empathy and compassion" for that Cyprus (GC) parallel you turned your back on? .... At least stop harping on about your tough times! You are so obsessed with what you supposedly suffered, you are unable to comprehend just how much of the responsibility you should accept for what went wrong in Cyprus.

Anyway, unlike you, our problem is how to undo your damage.

[BirKibrisli]

The TCs had carried out a coup in 1963 against the government, violently enforced it for years whilst threatening and terrorising the GCs with partition and reinforcing their "might" as a tyrannous minority with Turkey's belligerent aerial and marine attacks (1964). The GCs had to resort to using the services of the UN to establish some degree of normality. And so on ... none of it "revisionist" but all substantiated with facts and evidence.

Then there must be a parallel Cyprus you are talking about...The Cyprus I lived in during 63-74 was nothing like what you are describing above... You are on the wrong Forum...Better find the forum for your Cyprus,and stop driving people up the wall with drivel like the above...

What! No "empathy and compassion" for that Cyprus (GC) parallel you turned your back on? .... At least stop harping on about your tough times! You are so obsessed with what you supposedly suffered, you are unable to comprehend just how much of the responsibility you should accept for what went wrong in Cyprus.

Anyway, unlike you, our problem is how to undo your damage.

But you have to find this other Cyprus first...The one I know and the one you are describing are not the same countries...I have a lot of empathy and compassion for the GCs who live/lived in my Cyprus...I don't know the GCs who live/lived in your Cyprus...How can I have empathy for people I don't know...???

[Oracle]

The TCs had carried out a coup in 1963 against the government, violently enforced it for years whilst threatening and terrorising the GCs with partition and reinforcing their "might" as a tyrannous minority with Turkey's belligerent aerial and marine attacks (1964). The GCs had to resort to using the services of the UN to establish some degree of normality. And so on ... none of it "revisionist" but all substantiated with facts and evidence.

Then there must be a parallel Cyprus you are talking about...The Cyprus I lived in during 63-74 was nothing like what you are describing above... You are on the wrong Forum...Better find the forum for your Cyprus,and stop driving people up the wall with drivel like the above...

What! No "empathy and compassion" for that Cyprus (GC) parallel you turned your back on? .... At least stop harping on about your tough times! You are so obsessed with what you supposedly suffered, you are unable to comprehend just how much of the responsibility you should accept for what went wrong in Cyprus.

Anyway, unlike you, our problem is how to undo your damage.

But you have to find this other Cyprus first...The one I know and the one you are describing are not the same countries...I have a lot of empathy and compassion for the GCs who live/lived in my Cyprus...I don't know the GCs who live/lived in your Cyprus...How can I have empathy for people I don't know...???

Sounds to me like the only Cyprus you know is an exaggerated TC fantasy molded to justify the present predicament.

If you refuse to acknowledge the fear GCs lived under, how their Human Rights were violated and continue to so be, living not only under the threat of partition, but numerous attacks by Turkey until achieved then you'd better change your leitmotif as it makes you sound like a deluded atavist.

[wyoming cowboy]

The Tc need to understand that they bare much of the responsibility concerning the present Cyprus situation. Their leaders manipulated them into voluntarily leaving some of their villages for the sole purpose of enacting partition and leaving the Government of the Republic...Anyone who didnt leave was promptly executed by the Tc terrorist or TMT. These are facts.....

[denizaksulu]

[quote="wyoming cowboy"]The Tc need to understand that they bare much of the responsibility concerning the present Cyprus situation. Their leaders manipulated them into voluntarily leaving some of their villages for the sole purpose of enacting partition and leaving the Government of the Republic...Anyone who didnt leave was promptly executed by the Tc terrorist or TMT. These are facts.....[/quote]


I would be interested in any credible evidence you may have to these 'facts'.
Thank you. Esp the ones who refused to leave their homes.

Regards

DA

[BirKibrisli]

The Tc need to understand that they bare much of the responsibility concerning the present Cyprus situation. Their leaders manipulated them into voluntarily leaving some of their villages for the sole purpose of enacting partition and leaving the Government of the Republic...Anyone who didnt leave was promptly executed by the Tc terrorist or TMT. These are facts.....

There is not much point talking to you about this....If you will not believe the words of those who lived through the events,and stick to your brainwashing through GC official propaganda,this problem will never be solved....

You and Oracle above and most GCs here blame everything on the weakest,most victimised side in this conflict...I am beginning to understand the real reasons why we have not managed to solve Cyprob till now...Deep down in the GC collective consciousness there is resentment and hatred for the TC community for stopping your ENOSIS dream...Not just that but also the Greco-Turkish historical emnity has left irriversible bitterness,unquenchable thirst for revenge...We need to multiply the Kikapus and Bananiots of the real world by tens of thousands if we are to overcome these obstacles and achieve some objective analysis of the problem...But as you can see,we are only attacking and abusing these enlightened individuals,instead of encouraging them to mulitiply...There is no hope for us...Partition has been achieved in our minds and our hearts...All that is left is to give it a name,and accept it as reality....

[DT.]

The Tc need to understand that they bare much of the responsibility concerning the present Cyprus situation. Their leaders manipulated them into voluntarily leaving some of their villages for the sole purpose of enacting partition and leaving the Government of the Republic...Anyone who didnt leave was promptly executed by the Tc terrorist or TMT. These are facts.....

There is not much point talking to you about this....If you will not believe the words of those who lived through the events,and stick to your brainwashing through GC official propaganda,this problem will never be solved....

You and Oracle above and most GCs here blame everything on the weakest,most victimised side in this conflict...I am beginning to understand the real reasons why we have not managed to solve Cyprob till now...Deep down in the GC collective consciousness there is resentment and hatred for the TC community for stopping your ENOSIS dream...Not just that but also the Greco-Turkish historical emnity has left irriversible bitterness,unquenchable thirst for revenge...We need to multiply the Kikapus and Bananiots of the real world by tens of thousands if we are to overcome these obstacles and achieve some objective analysis of the problem...But as you can see,we are only attacking and abusing these enlightened individuals,instead of encouraging them to mulitiply...There is no hope for us...Partition has been achieved in our minds and our hearts...All that is left is to give it a name,and accept it as reality....

You're dead wrong on one front Bir. 90%+ of the GC population would prefer a bullet in their head than union with Greece. They can't resent someone for something they wouldn't want even now.

There is resentment but thats not the reason.

[BirKibrisli]

The Tc need to understand that they bare much of the responsibility concerning the present Cyprus situation. Their leaders manipulated them into voluntarily leaving some of their villages for the sole purpose of enacting partition and leaving the Government of the Republic...Anyone who didnt leave was promptly executed by the Tc terrorist or TMT. These are facts.....

There is not much point talking to you about this....If you will not believe the words of those who lived through the events,and stick to your brainwashing through GC official propaganda,this problem will never be solved....

You and Oracle above and most GCs here blame everything on the weakest,most victimised side in this conflict...I am beginning to understand the real reasons why we have not managed to solve Cyprob till now...Deep down in the GC collective consciousness there is resentment and hatred for the TC community for stopping your ENOSIS dream...Not just that but also the Greco-Turkish historical emnity has left irriversible bitterness,unquenchable thirst for revenge...We need to multiply the Kikapus and Bananiots of the real world by tens of thousands if we are to overcome these obstacles and achieve some objective analysis of the problem...But as you can see,we are only attacking and abusing these enlightened individuals,instead of encouraging them to mulitiply...There is no hope for us...Partition has been achieved in our minds and our hearts...All that is left is to give it a name,and accept it as reality....

You're dead wrong on one front Bir. 90%+ of the GC population would prefer a bullet in their head than union with Greece. They can't resent someone for something they wouldn't want even now.

There is resentment but thats not the reason.

I wasn't talking about now,DT...It was way back in the 50s and 60s,but I believe this has become etched in the GC collective subconscious....And most of you guys have inherited it...There is no other explanation for being so blind to the plight of the TCs since the 50s...Most GCs simply see the TCs as those bloody remnants of the Ottoman times,without whom Cyprus would have returned to Mother back in the 50s....If there is another explanation please tell me...Simple brainwashing cannot explain this inability to see anything wrong in the way the TCs were treated back in the 60s....I am ready to listen...