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Postby Get Real! » Wed Jan 13, 2010 1:11 am

BirKibrisli wrote: :shock: Is Gabira a female????
I always assumed she was a man...

Don't worry you're only half wrong... it’s a transvestite! :?
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Postby BirKibrisli » Wed Jan 13, 2010 1:11 am

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BirKibrisli wrote:But YOU,will not allow any thoughts of any TC having a heart and mind enter your head...You'd like to keep seeing us as less than human,so you can justify your murderous thoughts...You want any evidence of this,look in the mirror... :evil:

We can only love/support those who support the Republic and the authentic Cypriot flag. Take Denizi for example… I know he can blend in with us lot while still going about his customs, religion, whatever, without offending or challenging ours so why should we see him as an enemy? There’s just no reason to.

Most of the rest of you however, are just hell-bent on eating away at Cyprus and fashioning her into something different from the authentic, or reinventing the Cypriot identity if you like, with all your malicious maneuvers, so don’t expect us to have any compassion for you!


What did they do to you in Cyprus,GR!???
Took away your brains,powers of reasoning and comprehension and replaced it with a GC blinkered robotic chip????

Listen to yourself...You are the child of the same people who wanted to gift Cyprus to Greece on a plate??? Now you are talking about us wanting to twist the Cyprus identity...I am really beginning to worry about the state of your minds...Such blind and selective minds are dangerous...You would justify anything( massacres,all-out -war,genocide) with such conditioned minds..If I was Deniz I would think twice about having you as a neighbour...
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Postby Get Real! » Wed Jan 13, 2010 1:15 am

BirKibrisli wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:But YOU,will not allow any thoughts of any TC having a heart and mind enter your head...You'd like to keep seeing us as less than human,so you can justify your murderous thoughts...You want any evidence of this,look in the mirror... :evil:

We can only love/support those who support the Republic and the authentic Cypriot flag. Take Denizi for example… I know he can blend in with us lot while still going about his customs, religion, whatever, without offending or challenging ours so why should we see him as an enemy? There’s just no reason to.

Most of the rest of you however, are just hell-bent on eating away at Cyprus and fashioning her into something different from the authentic, or reinventing the Cypriot identity if you like, with all your malicious maneuvers, so don’t expect us to have any compassion for you!


What did they do to you in Cyprus,GR!???
Took away your brains,powers of reasoning and comprehension and replaced it with a GC blinkered robotic chip????

Listen to yourself...You are the child of the same people who wanted to gift Cyprus to Greece on a plate??? Now you are talking about us wanting to twist the Cyprus identity...I am really beginning to worry about the state of your minds...Such blind and selective minds are dangerous...You would justify anything( massacres,all-out -war,genocide) with such conditioned minds..If I was Deniz I would think twice about having you as a neighbour...

You know how much I condemn and loath Greek nationalists so don't get me started!
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Postby BirKibrisli » Wed Jan 13, 2010 1:21 am

Get Real! wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:But YOU,will not allow any thoughts of any TC having a heart and mind enter your head...You'd like to keep seeing us as less than human,so you can justify your murderous thoughts...You want any evidence of this,look in the mirror... :evil:

We can only love/support those who support the Republic and the authentic Cypriot flag. Take Denizi for example… I know he can blend in with us lot while still going about his customs, religion, whatever, without offending or challenging ours so why should we see him as an enemy? There’s just no reason to.

Most of the rest of you however, are just hell-bent on eating away at Cyprus and fashioning her into something different from the authentic, or reinventing the Cypriot identity if you like, with all your malicious maneuvers, so don’t expect us to have any compassion for you!


What did they do to you in Cyprus,GR!???
Took away your brains,powers of reasoning and comprehension and replaced it with a GC blinkered robotic chip????

Listen to yourself...You are the child of the same people who wanted to gift Cyprus to Greece on a plate??? Now you are talking about us wanting to twist the Cyprus identity...I am really beginning to worry about the state of your minds...Such blind and selective minds are dangerous...You would justify anything( massacres,all-out -war,genocide) with such conditioned minds..If I was Deniz I would think twice about having you as a neighbour...

You know how much I condemn and loath Greek nationalists so don't get me started!


Go on tell us...What do you think about the ENOSIS dream???
You seemed to have forgiven them??? And that only happened in 1950s....But you can't forget what happened in 1571...And still blame us TCs for it...Is that logical in your opinion??? Be honest now...
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Postby Oracle » Wed Jan 13, 2010 1:31 am

BirKibrisli you are so transparent. :roll:

Shame on you for taking advantage of GR!'s inebriated state ....
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Postby Oracle » Wed Jan 13, 2010 1:37 am

BirKibrisli wrote: ... If you want me to take your human rights pleas seriously,you will have to admit that the TCs human rights were severly curtailed during 63-74 period.. And not many GCs gave a damn about it...Otherwise I will treat you as an opportunistic hypocrite who keeps dropping the official GC propaganda line everywhere...


Curtailed? :? Let's see ....

Do you accept that the GCs' Human Rights did not exist for hundreds of years under the Ottomans, did not exist in the 50's under the mutual control of Brits and TC auxiliaries, did not exist 1960 to 1963; and were severely curtailed 1963 to 1974 and have been pretty much trashed and destroyed from 1974 to now and the foreseeable future?
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Postby BirKibrisli » Wed Jan 13, 2010 2:06 am

Oracle wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote: ... If you want me to take your human rights pleas seriously,you will have to admit that the TCs human rights were severly curtailed during 63-74 period.. And not many GCs gave a damn about it...Otherwise I will treat you as an opportunistic hypocrite who keeps dropping the official GC propaganda line everywhere...


Curtailed? :? Let's see ....

Do you accept that the GCs' Human Rights did not exist for hundreds of years under the Ottomans, did not exist in the 50's under the mutual control of Brits and TC auxiliaries, did not exist 1960 to 1963; and were severely curtailed 1963 to 1974 and have been pretty much trashed and destroyed from 1974 to now and the foreseeable future?


for someone who accuses others of gross exaggeration,you take the cake,Oracle...
Listen,the notion of human rights did not exist in Ottoman times...The Ottoman empire was no worse than any of the others...In fact in certain aspects it was better...The conquered people were largely left alone to get on with their lives,as long as they paid their taxes and did not revolt...
Having said that,I am not suggesting people like being ruled by anyone,let alone by a foreign power..It must've been terrible to be subjugated like that,but they were different times ,Oracle..Empires and conquests were the norm...You can't judge the Ottoman times by our enlightened human rights standards...And then turn around and ignore what happeened to the TCs in our living memory...That is the hypocracy...That is the callous disregard...

But I am curious,why was the GC human rights severly curtailed during 63-74...What revisionist point are you making here??? :?
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Postby BirKibrisli » Wed Jan 13, 2010 2:10 am

Oracle wrote:BirKibrisli you are so transparent. :roll:

Shame on you for taking advantage of GR!'s inebriated state ....


:shock: How do you know he is inebriated???
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Postby Oracle » Wed Jan 13, 2010 10:59 am

BirKibrisli wrote:
Oracle wrote:BirKibrisli you are so transparent. :roll:

Shame on you for taking advantage of GR!'s inebriated state ....


:shock: How do you know he is inebriated???


He made TWO spelling mistakes within about 5 posts! :shock:
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Postby Oracle » Wed Jan 13, 2010 12:13 pm

BirKibrisli wrote:
Oracle wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote: ... If you want me to take your human rights pleas seriously,you will have to admit that the TCs human rights were severly curtailed during 63-74 period.. And not many GCs gave a damn about it...Otherwise I will treat you as an opportunistic hypocrite who keeps dropping the official GC propaganda line everywhere...


Curtailed? :? Let's see ....

Do you accept that the GCs' Human Rights did not exist for hundreds of years under the Ottomans, did not exist in the 50's under the mutual control of Brits and TC auxiliaries, did not exist 1960 to 1963; and were severely curtailed 1963 to 1974 and have been pretty much trashed and destroyed from 1974 to now and the foreseeable future?


for someone who accuses others of gross exaggeration,you take the cake,Oracle...
Listen,the notion of human rights did not exist in Ottoman times...The Ottoman empire was no worse than any of the others...In fact in certain aspects it was better...The conquered people were largely left alone to get on with their lives,as long as they paid their taxes and did not revolt...
Having said that,I am not suggesting people like being ruled by anyone,let alone by a foreign power..It must've been terrible to be subjugated like that,but they were different times ,Oracle..Empires and conquests were the norm...You can't judge the Ottoman times by our enlightened human rights standards...And then turn around and ignore what happeened to the TCs in our living memory...That is the hypocracy...That is the callous disregard...


Really, you ask me for some unconditional acknowledgement, devoid of evidence, and then you have the audacity to question my gripes?

But I am curious,why was the GC human rights severly curtailed during 63-74...What revisionist point are you making here??? :?


The TCs had carried out a coup in 1963 against the government, violently enforced it for years whilst threatening and terrorising the GCs with partition and reinforcing their "might" as a tyrannous minority with Turkey's belligerent aerial and marine attacks (1964). The GCs had to resort to using the services of the UN to establish some degree of normality. And so on ... none of it "revisionist" but all substantiated with facts and evidence.
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