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[miltiades]

An interesting article in the Sunday Times reporting on views expressed by a well respected Israeli Brigadier-General and a war hero which are contradictory to the views held by the Israeli defence establishment and the political leaders .He states that the Iranians are 7 years away from producing nuclear weapons where the official view is that Iran will probably produce its first nuclear war head this year . As Israels Prime Minister ,Binyamin Netanyahu, stated repeatedly that Israel will never tolerate a nuclear Iran . Israels forces have been in training to attack Iranian nuclear installations this year .The threat is very real , what I wonder would the effects of such a conflict be for Cyprus and the Middle East in general .




http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/w ... 982447.ece

[Bananiot]

But the real question is what General GR thinks about it?

[miltiades]

But the real question is what General GR thinks about it?

Here is what I think General GR thinks :
Israel is committing war crimes !

[Paphitis]

You are far behind the times I'm afraid because US policy is to engage Iran and even assist Iran developing a nuclear power industry. Through cooperation and understanding, it is hoped that Iran will not develop a nuclear warhead, but continue building 19 nuclear reactors such as the one at Bushehr and Darkhovin.

There is very little Israel can do without US approval. So any preemptive strikes against Iran would be very damaging to US/Israeli relations, and it won't be tolerated, because as it stands, there is no evidence that Iran has developed weapons grade uranium!

You are both imbeciles for advocating an Iran/Israel war, particularly as neither of you have any idea what you talking about, or even understand the current scope of Iran's nuclear industry.

[miltiades]

You are far behind the times I'm afraid because US policy is to engage Iran and even assist Iran developing a nuclear power industry. Through cooperation and understanding, it is hoped that Iran will not develop a nuclear warhead, but continue building 19 nuclear reactors such as the one at Bushehr and Darkhovin.

There is very little Israel can do without US approval. So any preemptive strikes against Iran would be very damaging to US/Israeli relations, and it won't be tolerated, because as it stands, there is no evidence that Iran has developed weapons grade uranium!

You are both imbeciles for advocating an Iran/Israel war, particularly as neither of you have any idea what you talking about, or even understand the current scope of Iran's nuclear industry.

As usual Paphiti you presume wrongly . The thread refers to an article in the Sunday Times by Uzi Mahnaimi in Tel Aviv . What is "imbecilic" about my bringing this on to the forum . It is clear you jumped in with gross immaturity neglecting to read the article in question.

On a personal note however , I believe that Israel with or without USA consent will go it alone and attack Iranian nuclear installations.
Do please read the article .

[Paphitis]

You are far behind the times I'm afraid because US policy is to engage Iran and even assist Iran developing a nuclear power industry. Through cooperation and understanding, it is hoped that Iran will not develop a nuclear warhead, but continue building 19 nuclear reactors such as the one at Bushehr and Darkhovin.

There is very little Israel can do without US approval. So any preemptive strikes against Iran would be very damaging to US/Israeli relations, and it won't be tolerated, because as it stands, there is no evidence that Iran has developed weapons grade uranium!

You are both imbeciles for advocating an Iran/Israel war, particularly as neither of you have any idea what you talking about, or even understand the current scope of Iran's nuclear industry.

As usual Paphiti you presume wrongly . The thread refers to an article in the Sunday Times by Uzi Mahnaimi in Tel Aviv . What is "imbecilic" about my bringing this on to the forum . It is clear you jumped in with gross immaturity neglecting to read the article in question.

On a personal note however , I believe that Israel with or without USA consent will go it alone and attack Iranian nuclear installations.
Do please read the article .

What is imbecilic is how you have decided to highlight this article purely on hearsay!

Do you really think Israeli and US intelligence are not currently assessing the situation as we speak, analyzing every bit of information coming out of Iran?

Israel can't do anything without US approval. And let's say Israel does attack Iran. What exactly do you think will be achieved? Will the Iran's nuclear program cease? Will Israel invade? I think not!

[miltiades]

You are far behind the times I'm afraid because US policy is to engage Iran and even assist Iran developing a nuclear power industry. Through cooperation and understanding, it is hoped that Iran will not develop a nuclear warhead, but continue building 19 nuclear reactors such as the one at Bushehr and Darkhovin.

There is very little Israel can do without US approval. So any preemptive strikes against Iran would be very damaging to US/Israeli relations, and it won't be tolerated, because as it stands, there is no evidence that Iran has developed weapons grade uranium!

You are both imbeciles for advocating an Iran/Israel war, particularly as neither of you have any idea what you talking about, or even understand the current scope of Iran's nuclear industry.

As usual Paphiti you presume wrongly . The thread refers to an article in the Sunday Times by Uzi Mahnaimi in Tel Aviv . What is "imbecilic" about my bringing this on to the forum . It is clear you jumped in with gross immaturity neglecting to read the article in question.

On a personal note however , I believe that Israel with or without USA consent will go it alone and attack Iranian nuclear installations.
Do please read the article .

What is imbecilic is how you have decided to highlight this article purely on hearsay!

Do you really think Israeli and US intelligence are not currently assessing the situation as we speak, analyzing every bit of information coming out of Iran?

Israel can't do anything without US approval. And let's say Israel does attack Iran. What exactly do you think will be achieved? Will the Iran's nuclear program cease? Will Israel invade? I think not!

Are completely sane today ? The article appears in today's Sunday Times , is not " hearsay " it is an article written by a well respected Times correspondent , I have not contributed to the completion of this article neither have I endorsed or rejected the contents of this article. Grow up son!

[Paphitis]

You are far behind the times I'm afraid because US policy is to engage Iran and even assist Iran developing a nuclear power industry. Through cooperation and understanding, it is hoped that Iran will not develop a nuclear warhead, but continue building 19 nuclear reactors such as the one at Bushehr and Darkhovin.

There is very little Israel can do without US approval. So any preemptive strikes against Iran would be very damaging to US/Israeli relations, and it won't be tolerated, because as it stands, there is no evidence that Iran has developed weapons grade uranium!

You are both imbeciles for advocating an Iran/Israel war, particularly as neither of you have any idea what you talking about, or even understand the current scope of Iran's nuclear industry.

As usual Paphiti you presume wrongly . The thread refers to an article in the Sunday Times by Uzi Mahnaimi in Tel Aviv . What is "imbecilic" about my bringing this on to the forum . It is clear you jumped in with gross immaturity neglecting to read the article in question.

On a personal note however , I believe that Israel with or without USA consent will go it alone and attack Iranian nuclear installations.
Do please read the article .

What is imbecilic is how you have decided to highlight this article purely on hearsay!

Do you really think Israeli and US intelligence are not currently assessing the situation as we speak, analyzing every bit of information coming out of Iran?

Israel can't do anything without US approval. And let's say Israel does attack Iran. What exactly do you think will be achieved? Will the Iran's nuclear program cease? Will Israel invade? I think not!

Are completely sane today ? The article appears in today's Sunday Times , is not " hearsay " it is an article written by a well respected Times correspondent , I have not contributed to the completion of this article neither have I endorsed or rejected the contents of this article. Grow up son!

You are making the very silly assumption that Iran even has a program for enriching high grade uranium required for nuclear warheads as opposed to the development of a nuclear power industry.

As it stands, there is only evidence that supports the notion that Iran's nuclear industry is peaceful. The is the general consensus in the US.

The article is pure hysterical hearsay!

Iran in 7-10 years time could also be a democratic nation, where the Islamic Revolutionaries fall by the wayside in the face of increasing opposition from Iranian dissidents! The obvious policy from Washington is to allow the natural process of regime change to take fold, thus avoiding another debacle, and another war over weapons which don't exist.

[Get Real!]

One of the key characteristics of the “new world order” (read contemporary military aggression) is a tendency to attack those that are least likely to hurt you back!

We see this with the US attacking Iraq, Afghanistan, and Yemen, and we also saw this with Israel attacking the Palestinians last year and Lebanon in 2006.

In the case of Lebanon, Israel made a grave miscalculation though and ended up losing the bout to a rejuvenated Lebanese force (Hezbollah) that was unlike anything they had ever confronted before, so the chances of Israel attacking the Lebanon again after that awful experience has significantly decreased and hence the much softer target was selected last year!

The bottom line is that bully countries such as the US, UK, and Israel will only attack if they feel they can get away with it, and would never lift a finger if they felt they would not! Examples of such unlikely confrontations are the US’s reluctance to attack countries such as Russia, N.Korea, Iran, Brazil, with whom they’ve had the most “serious” of squabbles.

By the same token, Israel is reluctant to engage with Syria or Egypt because they pose a much more serious threat than they are prepared to deal with… which of course brings us to the question of Israel attacking Iran!

Put simply, Israel doesn’t have the capability of launching sorties over Iranian territory because she is too far away from Iran and she does not possess any aircraft carriers to get any closer so that option is out of the question.

The other option would be for Israeli jets to be given a free ride and all necessary support on American aircraft carriers but that of course would mean a joint attack on Iran, making the decision for such an operation extremely complicated. It’s difficult enough getting such an attack approved by one government let alone by two!

Finally, Israel could launch mid range missiles against Iran but with such a huge territory to cover that Iran possesses, it would be foolish to assume that they can accomplish much (some facilities also being underground) and that there won’t be any repercussions. After all, Iran often reminds Israel that she is a “one bomb country” and they’re not wrong!

Ballistic Iranian missiles of a sizeable payload striking huge, easy, and sensitive targets such as Israel’s Dimona dam would be catastrophic for Israel and she knows that, so to close off this argument I do NOT believe that Israel will attack Iran now or in the near future as the repercussions would be too severe for her.

[miltiades]

You are far behind the times I'm afraid because US policy is to engage Iran and even assist Iran developing a nuclear power industry. Through cooperation and understanding, it is hoped that Iran will not develop a nuclear warhead, but continue building 19 nuclear reactors such as the one at Bushehr and Darkhovin.

There is very little Israel can do without US approval. So any preemptive strikes against Iran would be very damaging to US/Israeli relations, and it won't be tolerated, because as it stands, there is no evidence that Iran has developed weapons grade uranium!

You are both imbeciles for advocating an Iran/Israel war, particularly as neither of you have any idea what you talking about, or even understand the current scope of Iran's nuclear industry.

As usual Paphiti you presume wrongly . The thread refers to an article in the Sunday Times by Uzi Mahnaimi in Tel Aviv . What is "imbecilic" about my bringing this on to the forum . It is clear you jumped in with gross immaturity neglecting to read the article in question.

On a personal note however , I believe that Israel with or without USA consent will go it alone and attack Iranian nuclear installations.
Do please read the article .

What is imbecilic is how you have decided to highlight this article purely on hearsay!

Do you really think Israeli and US intelligence are not currently assessing the situation as we speak, analyzing every bit of information coming out of Iran?

Israel can't do anything without US approval. And let's say Israel does attack Iran. What exactly do you think will be achieved? Will the Iran's nuclear program cease? Will Israel invade? I think not!

Are completely sane today ? The article appears in today's Sunday Times , is not " hearsay " it is an article written by a well respected Times correspondent , I have not contributed to the completion of this article neither have I endorsed or rejected the contents of this article. Grow up son!

You are making the very silly assumption that Iran even has a program for enriching high grade uranium required for nuclear warheads as opposed to the development of a nuclear power industry.

As it stands, there is only evidence that supports the notion that Iran's nuclear industry is peaceful. The is the general consensus in the US.

The article is pure hysterical hearsay!

Iran in 7-10 years time could also be a democratic nation, where the Islamic Revolutionaries fall by the wayside in the face of increasing opposition from Iranian dissidents! The obvious policy from Washington is to allow the natural process of regime change to take fold, thus avoiding another debacle, and another war over weapons which don't exist.

You have NOT read the article , full stop .
By telling me that I'M making a silly assumption proves once again how terribly immature you sometimes are.I posted the article I did not write the article neither did I condemn or condone its contents. Go back read and then post the rubbish you generally do.
You will that Israel does have the option of refuelling in mid air so there will be no need for USA assistance , as per the article.