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Is Britain paying for its past ?

Postby miltiades » Sun Jan 10, 2010 9:43 am

No other nation nation on earth has undergone such a massive cultural change , schools do not celebrate Christmas , the Christmas spirit has disappeared , teachers are instructed to avoid the word Christmas substituting it wit Winter festivities . Barmy Britain as a result of Political correctness . acceptance of multiculturism regardless of individual cultures such as forced marriages and honour killings.
Is Britain paying for its past mistakes .I wonder.

Ed Husain co-director of Quilliam, and author of The Islamist had this to say :
"By importing cheap imams from poor, intellectually deprived and theologically conservative places mosques put young Britons in the hands of men who do not have the linguistic or cultural backgrounds to deal with modern Britain. Little wonder, then, that many young Muslims turn to radical university Islamic societies, extremist websites, and Hamas-supporting groups in Britain for “religious guidance”. "

""Britain's mosques are run by men who are physically in Britain, but psychologically in Pakistan. They retain their village rituals and sectarianism, and prevent the growth of an indigenous British Islam. And for as long as young Muslims are confused about whether they belong in Britain or elsewhere, we risk handing them over to preying extremists in our midst. ""

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/commen ... 792445.ece

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/p ... 982399.ece
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Postby Talisker » Sun Jan 10, 2010 10:39 am

Personally, I like a good curry! :wink:
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Postby Paphitis » Sun Jan 10, 2010 12:03 pm

Talisker wrote:Personally, I like a good curry! :wink:


Me too! :lol:
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Postby miltiades » Sun Jan 10, 2010 12:17 pm

Paphitis wrote:
Talisker wrote:Personally, I like a good curry! :wink:


Me too! :lol:

I love a good curry , but I cook it my self. !!!
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Re: Is Britain paying for its past ?

Postby Talisker » Sun Jan 10, 2010 12:20 pm

miltiades wrote:No other nation nation on earth has undergone such a massive cultural change , schools do not celebrate Christmas , the Christmas spirit has disappeared , teachers are instructed to avoid the word Christmas substituting it wit Winter festivities . Barmy Britain as a result of Political correctness . acceptance of multiculturism regardless of individual cultures such as forced marriages and honour killings.
Is Britain paying for its past mistakes .I wonder.

Firstly, the schools I am aware of DO celebrate Christmas.

Secondly, look for the Christmas spirit and it can be found, and some folks and communities embrace and exude that spirit. You could be one of those if you chose to.

Thirdly, there is no 'acceptance of honour killings' in the UK. Forced marriages are difficult to deal with, and not something that sits comfortably within the liberal UK culture, but difficult to identify (unless the individuals come forward), to prove and to legislate against.

Your favourite nation, the US, purports to be the most multicultural on Earth, so what is your problem with the UK attempting to find the best means to become a truly multicultural society (not 'perfect' in the US either) too?
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Postby Paphitis » Sun Jan 10, 2010 12:44 pm

Miltiades seems to forget that the UK adopted thousands upon thousands of Cypriot immigrants in the 60s and 70s, trying to escape the political upheavals the UK conjured. Many were looking to escape the troubled island and develop a more secure and peaceful existence. So he might do well to ask himself what is the difference between those Cypriots that have chosen to live in the UK only a few decades ago, and the more recent Muslim, Indian and Pakistani arrivals.

Methinks, that if he is to be honest, then he would admit that the only difference lies with his intolerance and lack of understanding of their differing culture and religion, thus exposing his racism.

There is nothing wrong with multicultural societies, provided those countries exercise restraint by only undertaking a sustainable immigration policy which does not exceed its potential to offer the new arrivals proper social support which will allow them to better adapt to their new country. This will avoid many social problems in the future and prevent groups of people etching meager lives on the social fringes.
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Postby Z4 » Sun Jan 10, 2010 3:31 pm

I get what Miltiades is saying here. Things have definately changed. In towns/cities like Birmingham, London, Manchester and Wolverhampton the spirit of Xmas has changed over the years. No longer do you see Merry Christmas lights in places like these but Happy Festivities. I mean WTF? If a certain culture (who have moved here) don't like it they know what they can do - get the f**k out!

I can't comment about Xmas in schools as I don't have kids.

This country is allowing itself to be walked on.
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Re: Is Britain paying for its past ?

Postby miltiades » Sun Jan 10, 2010 3:48 pm

Talisker wrote:
miltiades wrote:No other nation nation on earth has undergone such a massive cultural change , schools do not celebrate Christmas , the Christmas spirit has disappeared , teachers are instructed to avoid the word Christmas substituting it wit Winter festivities . Barmy Britain as a result of Political correctness . acceptance of multiculturism regardless of individual cultures such as forced marriages and honour killings.
Is Britain paying for its past mistakes .I wonder.

Firstly, the schools I am aware of DO celebrate Christmas.

Secondly, look for the Christmas spirit and it can be found, and some folks and communities embrace and exude that spirit. You could be one of those if you chose to.

Thirdly, there is no 'acceptance of honour killings' in the UK. Forced marriages are difficult to deal with, and not something that sits comfortably within the liberal UK culture, but difficult to identify (unless the individuals come forward), to prove and to legislate against.

Your favourite nation, the US, purports to be the most multicultural on Earth, so what is your problem with the UK attempting to find the best means to become a truly multicultural society (not 'perfect' in the US either) too?

Wrong ! Official School policy is : WINTER FESTIVITIES . No argument
I have my niece who teaches at a school in South London , no Xmas mate Winter festivities !
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Postby miltiades » Sun Jan 10, 2010 3:51 pm

Paphitis wrote:Miltiades seems to forget that the UK adopted thousands upon thousands of Cypriot immigrants in the 60s and 70s, trying to escape the political upheavals the UK conjured. Many were looking to escape the troubled island and develop a more secure and peaceful existence. So he might do well to ask himself what is the difference between those Cypriots that have chosen to live in the UK only a few decades ago, and the more recent Muslim, Indian and Pakistani arrivals.

Methinks, that if he is to be honest, then he would admit that the only difference lies with his intolerance and lack of understanding of their differing culture and religion, thus exposing his racism.

There is nothing wrong with multicultural societies, provided those countries exercise restraint by only undertaking a sustainable immigration policy which does not exceed its potential to offer the new arrivals proper social support which will allow them to better adapt to their new country. This will avoid many social problems in the future and prevent groups of people etching meager lives on the social fringes.

Bullshit as usual.
The Cypriots came to the UK , fully aware that this country ain't Cyprus .
We integrated , respected the British culture and accepted that this is the British way of Living. You either like it or piss off to where ever you came from.
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Postby Get Real! » Sun Jan 10, 2010 3:51 pm

Z4 wrote:I mean WTF? If a certain culture (who have moved here) don't like it they know what they can do - get the f**k out!

That’s precisely how I feel about those who call themselves “Turkish Cypriots”!

If they don’t like the ways of the 10,000 year old indigenous Cypriots, then they can bloody well jump in their Ottoman dinghies and bugger off to Anatolia!
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