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[Z4]

Britain no longer represents British

[Paphitis]

Miltiades seems to forget that the UK adopted thousands upon thousands of Cypriot immigrants in the 60s and 70s, trying to escape the political upheavals the UK conjured. Many were looking to escape the troubled island and develop a more secure and peaceful existence. So he might do well to ask himself what is the difference between those Cypriots that have chosen to live in the UK only a few decades ago, and the more recent Muslim, Indian and Pakistani arrivals.

Methinks, that if he is to be honest, then he would admit that the only difference lies with his intolerance and lack of understanding of their differing culture and religion, thus exposing his racism.

There is nothing wrong with multicultural societies, provided those countries exercise restraint by only undertaking a sustainable immigration policy which does not exceed its potential to offer the new arrivals proper social support which will allow them to better adapt to their new country. This will avoid many social problems in the future and prevent groups of people etching meager lives on the social fringes.

Bullshit as usual.
The Cypriots came to the UK , fully aware that this country ain't Cyprus .
We integrated , respected the British culture and accepted that this is the British way of Living. You either like it or piss off to where ever you came from.

I did not realize that the Cypriots gave up their Cypriot identity and culture and became British!

[Oracle]

Britain no longer represents British

It depends what you believe "British" means. If like the majority you think it means "English", then yes, Britain does not represent the English anymore (sadly).

But, "British" actually refers to all those people of the British Empire/Commonwealth and as such, it represents Indians, Pakistanis, Welsh, Scots, West Indians, Cypriots, Sri Lankans etc

In which case, modern Britain, being the end result of the British Empire ..... as Miltiades points out, is "paying for its past".

[Oracle]

... The Cypriots came to the UK , fully aware that this country ain't Cyprus .
We integrated , respected the British culture and accepted that this is the British way of Living. You either like it or piss off to where ever you came from.

Wrong.

Every Cypriot born in Cyprus, up to 1960, was British. After 1960, you could elect to become Cypriot. You probably didn't and so were born British and remain British

Now stop trying to be "English" ... that is a different kettle of fish .....

[Talisker]

No other nation nation on earth has undergone such a massive cultural change , schools do not celebrate Christmas , the Christmas spirit has disappeared , teachers are instructed to avoid the word Christmas substituting it wit Winter festivities . Barmy Britain as a result of Political correctness . acceptance of multiculturism regardless of individual cultures such as forced marriages and honour killings.
Is Britain paying for its past mistakes .I wonder.

Firstly, the schools I am aware of DO celebrate Christmas.

Secondly, look for the Christmas spirit and it can be found, and some folks and communities embrace and exude that spirit. You could be one of those if you chose to.

Thirdly, there is no 'acceptance of honour killings' in the UK. Forced marriages are difficult to deal with, and not something that sits comfortably within the liberal UK culture, but difficult to identify (unless the individuals come forward), to prove and to legislate against.

Your favourite nation, the US, purports to be the most multicultural on Earth, so what is your problem with the UK attempting to find the best means to become a truly multicultural society (not 'perfect' in the US either) too?

Wrong ! Official School policy is : WINTER FESTIVITIES . No argument
I have my niece who teaches at a school in South London , no Xmas mate Winter festivities !

Well duh, funny how my child attended a school carol service the last day of term before the Christmas break. And not so long ago I attended a nativity play in which the young children played the same characters I and my peers did a generation earlier and the generations previous to that. Stop generalising as though the truth according to Miltiades is the only truth.

As I said - look for the Christmas spirit in the UK and you will find it. If you are so bothered about lack of Christmas activities and spirit in your local area then campaign for more, be active in promoting Christianity if that is your wish (or maybe to you the 'Christmas spirit' is all about a nice display of decorations in your high street ), instead of having a whinge after the event.

[Z4]

Britain no longer represents British

It depends what you believe "British" means. If like the majority you think it means "English", then yes, Britain does not represent the English anymore (sadly).

But, "British" actually refers to all those people of the British Empire/Commonwealth and as such, it represents Indians, Pakistanis, Welsh, Scots, West Indians, Cypriots, Sri Lankans etc

In which case, modern Britain, being the end result of the British Empire ..... as Miltiades points out, is "paying for its past".

Yeah, I mean Britain as English. Britain used to look after its people but it no longer does IMO. I wish some would drop the 'Great' from Great Britain as it no longer is.

You can go into certain parts of a small town where I live and feel like you are in another country altogether. I guess it's like certain parts of Cyprus, i.e. Peyia!

[Me Ed]

Miltiades seems to forget that the UK adopted thousands upon thousands of Cypriot immigrants in the 60s and 70s, trying to escape the political upheavals the UK conjured. Many were looking to escape the troubled island and develop a more secure and peaceful existence. So he might do well to ask himself what is the difference between those Cypriots that have chosen to live in the UK only a few decades ago, and the more recent Muslim, Indian and Pakistani arrivals.

Methinks, that if he is to be honest, then he would admit that the only difference lies with his intolerance and lack of understanding of their differing culture and religion, thus exposing his racism.

There is nothing wrong with multicultural societies, provided those countries exercise restraint by only undertaking a sustainable immigration policy which does not exceed its potential to offer the new arrivals proper social support which will allow them to better adapt to their new country. This will avoid many social problems in the future and prevent groups of people etching meager lives on the social fringes.

Bullshit as usual.
The Cypriots came to the UK , fully aware that this country ain't Cyprus .
We integrated , respected the British culture and accepted that this is the British way of Living. You either like it or piss off to where ever you came from.

Miltiades, I completely agree with you.

There was a recent case in the UK where seven muslims refused to stand for the Judge in a Luton court, saying it was against their religion and they are only allowed to stand in respect for Allah. (These guys make it up as they go along!)

What they were in fact doing was showing zero respect for UK law.

Now I thought they showed respect for Allah by pointing their behinds skywards:

[denizaksulu]

The problem Milti is pointing out has been caused by Immigration of the 'wrong kind'.
Whereas white immigrant would easily integrate into a mainly christian society, the Moslem immigrants have lately become intolerant of the British (christian) system and eventually are demanding changes in goverment policies which have stimulated the PC brigade.
I believe steps should be taken - as in France - of banning the burka to start with. If they do not like the British way of lfe, there is then only one answer.

Stay where you are.

[Oracle]

The problem Milti is pointing out has been caused by Immigration of the 'wrong kind'.
Whereas white immigrant would easily integrate into a mainly christian society, the Moslem immigrants have lately become intolerant of the British (christian) system and eventually are demanding changes in goverment policies which have stimulated the PC brigade.
I believe steps should be taken - as in France - of banning the burka to start with. If they do not like the British way of lfe, there is then only one answer.

Stay where you are.

Excellent point, Deniz, as they will shortly be demanding a state of their own to secure their "minority rights"....

[denizaksulu]

The problem Milti is pointing out has been caused by Immigration of the 'wrong kind'.
Whereas white immigrant would easily integrate into a mainly christian society, the Moslem immigrants have lately become intolerant of the British (christian) system and eventually are demanding changes in goverment policies which have stimulated the PC brigade.
I believe steps should be taken - as in France - of banning the burka to start with. If they do not like the British way of lfe, there is then only one answer.

Stay where you are.

Excellent point, Deniz, as they will shortly be demanding a state of their own to secure their "minority rights"....

Exactomundo..............as the Fonz says.