Kikapu wrote:Really, Expat, really.??? Now, can you tell us what is it that the Confederate Flag represents and why the American Civil War was fought over, and once you have done that, then come back and tell us that the NAACP are bunch of "pricks".!
Expatkiwi wrote:You are so sadly misinformed, Kookapu.
Really, Expat, really.?? Well, let see if I am or not.!
Expatkiwi wrote:The Confederate Flag has two very diverse meanings: To one group of people, it represents Southern Heritage and Pride. To another, it represents racism.
Tell me Expat, just what is this "Southern Heritage and Pride" that the southerners would want to hang onto the Confederate Flag.??
Well, since you did not tell us other than a some sterile buzz word, I'll tell you. How about slavery for few centuries. How about slaves doing all the manual work in the plantations that each state was benefiting on the blood and sweat of the slaves. How about owning human beings like owning a dog who had to be obedient. How about the slaves not having any rights what so ever, that even a horse thief were hung, but lynching a black slave by any white man was acceptable, other than perhaps pay the slave owner the cost of the slave's worth. Perhaps it was the raping of the black female slaves at will, or do you think the blacks in the states having fair skin colour was based on inter marriages, just like Obama’s parents did 100 years after the abolishment of slavery. Are these the Southern Heritage and Pride you are talking about, Expat.??
Expatkiwi wrote:Now, the United States was founded upon compromise. It was the failure to compromise that led to the Civil War.
I see, a compromise that was breached that lead to the Civil War. What compromises, Expat.? So it had nothing to do with the fact that the United States was finally getting ready to abolish slavery and that the southern states did not want to give up on their slaves that formed their "Southern Heritage and Pride". After all, it's not everyday you can own another human being where you can strip them off all their dignity and rights and make them into slaves to be used & abused and raped at will. Was this not the reason why the southern states formed the Confederacy, even though it was an illegal act under the US constitution which brought about the American Civil War.??
Expatkiwi wrote:Now, the Confederate flag flying from the Southern States' capitol buildings was a knee-jerk reaction to the Civil Rights revolution of the 50's and 60's.
Yeah, all Racist Rednecks think it was a knee- jerk reaction. I mean, how dare those former "nigger" slaves tell us what to do in our own southern states that is full of Heritage & Pride.?
Expatkiwi wrote:So groups like the NAACP were right to demand its removal from the State Capitals' domes. But given that the majority of Southerners wanted the Confederate Flag to remain, it wasn't fair to them (you know: democracy), so the South Carolina legilature compromised and removed the flag from the Capital Dome, and instead transferred it to a Civil War Monument on the grounds of the capitol so that the Southern Heritage could be honored. However, the NAACP continued its boycott of South Carolina on the grounds that the Confederate Flag should NEVER be on public property.
You got some learning to do as to what Democracy really means, Expat, just like all the anti Democracy people here on the forum. Democracy and Majority rule is not absolute. In True Democracy minority groups also have a voice and rights and the NAACP exercised those rights through boycotts. They have exercised their democratic rights. They did not kill the Racists Rednecks to remove the Confederate Flag. Of course all Racist flags that represent Racism and Slavery should be off public buildings and property, because those places belong to all citizens, specially to the blacks who were forced to build those states as slaves.. If Democracy and Majority rule were to be absolute, then we would still have slavery today, don't you think.?
Expatkiwi wrote:This issue has polarized the population in South Carolina. The legislature tried to compromise, but the NAACP does not want to do that, and thus are continuing the state boycott. Now do you understand, you idiot?
So you think the NAACP should accept the Racist Confederate flag which you admitted yourself that represents Racism (to the blacks), just because those whites with the majority should have their way and expect harmony in that state when in fact it is the reminder of the good old days when they were the slave owners of the blacks and the days when black slaves had no rights and were owned like dogs. Not that the situation changed very much for the blacks since the abolishment of slavery in the 1860's, because the blacks were still "slaves" to the white man economically and politically for another 100+ years until the civil rights movement began in the 1960's. This is what the Racist Rednecks cry about as being unfair that their way of life had to change because of all these "niggers" that your own state of Arkansas is one of the most racists of all the southern states who still has the KKK's headquarters there.
So Expat, is this what you meant by when you said
"Southern Hospitality and Pride" by any chance.?
