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Postby bill cobbett » Tue Jan 12, 2010 1:29 am

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humanist wrote:I support DT's plea to get rid of the flag of both Turkey & "trnc" they perpetuated the force that came in with 1974.


Not until or if we reach a solution, even then yours will represent you and our will represent us with a new for the federal and internaitonal level.
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VP, can some of us have your assurance there will be no more offensive flags in your posts?
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Postby Expatkiwi » Tue Jan 12, 2010 3:26 am

I gotta stop using the flag, Cobbler, as per Admin's orders, so my super-secret (and recently-busted) role of a Republic of Cyprus Secret-Service Agent Provocateur is over and done with. Time for me to join 007 for a vodka martini...
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Postby bill cobbett » Tue Jan 12, 2010 3:45 am

Expatkiwi wrote:I gotta stop using the flag, Cobbler, as per Admin's orders, so my super-secret (and recently-busted) role of a Republic of Cyprus Secret-Service Agent Provocateur is over and done with. Time for me to join 007 for a vodka martini...


Yes, Umit is a bit of a drinker I hear.
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Postby Expatkiwi » Tue Jan 12, 2010 6:40 am

bill cobbett wrote:
Expatkiwi wrote:I gotta stop using the flag, Cobbler, as per Admin's orders, so my super-secret (and recently-busted) role of a Republic of Cyprus Secret-Service Agent Provocateur is over and done with. Time for me to join 007 for a vodka martini...


Yes, Umit is a bit of a drinker I hear.


He drinks ouzo....
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Postby BirKibrisli » Tue Jan 12, 2010 12:07 pm

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BirKibrisli wrote:[You are wrong...My family properties in Istinjo are rased to the ground...


The land is still there for you to take back ... just like Deniz has done.

As to the state of buildings, that is a sad fact of neglect/war/earthquakes etc. They can be restored. When I drive through France the place is littered with ruins, some just piles of stones. Abandoned buildings. Some only 15 to 20 years without inhabitants and the neglect has destroyed them. But you didn't have to neglect your property (unlike the GCs). The RoC has never stopped any TCs returning or made any leave in the first place!

And where did I use he phrase "murderous GCs"??? That is a term you are trying to put in my mouth...


You are rather obsessed with portraying such an image whilst carefully avoiding the actual term. Same thing.

And you are hell bent on giving me no credit at all...It doesn't enter your bloodthirsty mind


I don't have a bloodthirsty mind. I go faint at the sight ... main reason I had to abandon being a vet :(

that I want the majority of the settlers repatriated because I do not want to assimilate into the broad Turkish society....


I want all of them to return to Turkey, plus all the TCs who refuse to recognise the RoC.

I 'd like to preserve my unique Turkish Cypriot identity....


That's not under threat in a democracy. You are free to dance and sing as you wish. But it doesn't have to monopolise our politics.

And work with likeminded GCs to build a tolerant,fair,compassionate Cypriot society and culture...But you wouldn't know the meaning of these terms anyway...Your heart is full of bitterness and hatred...And your mind is full of bullshit... :roll:


No, I am not full of bitterness and those are the things I would like to see achieved, too. But when we come to the details, your TC-ness is presented as a paramount obstacle to a democratic, fair for all society. The preservation of your TC-ness should not come above the future Cypriot ONE-nation interests.


Was Republic of Cyprus not a democracy in 1963???? Why were people running around killing each other because of their ethnic background????
Are you for real??? Was Cyprus a dictatorship between 1963-74????Why were hundreds of TC villages emptied and why did they move to safer areas???To be protected from the wild Cyprus donkeys???

Unles you get a grip on our reality there is little point discussing anything with you...I might as well be talking to a brick wall....If you think the TCs could have returned to their villages after 1974 and picked up from where they left off,you are more deluded than I imagined...but have no fear...soon I will be telling you you are perfectly safe in a Cyprus where the majority are the settlers from Anatolia,as long as we have democracy,and the majority rule and human rights etc...I wonder what your reaction will be??? :)
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Postby BirKibrisli » Tue Jan 12, 2010 12:14 pm

MR-from-NG wrote:
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BirKibrisli wrote:And one of the first realities you will swollow is this:

No mater what you or I want,Turkish soldiers are here to stay (at least a considerable number of them) until a comprehensive solution is reached...

Wishing them away will not work...Get that through your throat and into your stomach...Now digest it slowly...That's a good woman! 8)


You are loosing the meaning- logic in CB has long time be lost.t4 be prepared for surprises "TURKISH ARMY IN CYPRUS" will be the joke of the coming decade.

By 1913 Not Turkish army but i am very courious to see whether any T/C will be in Cyprus. History for the next 5 years already written and Turkey/Turks are out of it!!!!


Roll on 1913 :lol: :lol: :lol:


I am a bit confused...What year are we in now??? 1907????? :lol: :lol:


Nice to see you posting again,MR>>>Hope you and loved ones are well and happy... :wink:
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Postby Oracle » Tue Jan 12, 2010 12:25 pm

BirKibrisli wrote:
Oracle wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:[You are wrong...My family properties in Istinjo are rased to the ground...


The land is still there for you to take back ... just like Deniz has done.

As to the state of buildings, that is a sad fact of neglect/war/earthquakes etc. They can be restored. When I drive through France the place is littered with ruins, some just piles of stones. Abandoned buildings. Some only 15 to 20 years without inhabitants and the neglect has destroyed them. But you didn't have to neglect your property (unlike the GCs). The RoC has never stopped any TCs returning or made any leave in the first place!

And where did I use he phrase "murderous GCs"??? That is a term you are trying to put in my mouth...


You are rather obsessed with portraying such an image whilst carefully avoiding the actual term. Same thing.

And you are hell bent on giving me no credit at all...It doesn't enter your bloodthirsty mind


I don't have a bloodthirsty mind. I go faint at the sight ... main reason I had to abandon being a vet :(

that I want the majority of the settlers repatriated because I do not want to assimilate into the broad Turkish society....


I want all of them to return to Turkey, plus all the TCs who refuse to recognise the RoC.

I 'd like to preserve my unique Turkish Cypriot identity....


That's not under threat in a democracy. You are free to dance and sing as you wish. But it doesn't have to monopolise our politics.

And work with likeminded GCs to build a tolerant,fair,compassionate Cypriot society and culture...But you wouldn't know the meaning of these terms anyway...Your heart is full of bitterness and hatred...And your mind is full of bullshit... :roll:


No, I am not full of bitterness and those are the things I would like to see achieved, too. But when we come to the details, your TC-ness is presented as a paramount obstacle to a democratic, fair for all society. The preservation of your TC-ness should not come above the future Cypriot ONE-nation interests.


Was Republic of Cyprus not a democracy in 1963???? Why were people running around killing each other because of their ethnic background????
Are you for real??? Was Cyprus a dictatorship between 1963-74????Why were hundreds of TC villages emptied and why did they move to safer areas???To be protected from the wild Cyprus donkeys???

Unles you get a grip on our reality there is little point discussing anything with you...I might as well be talking to a brick wall....If you think the TCs could have returned to their villages after 1974 and picked up from where they left off,you are more deluded than I imagined...but have no fear...soon I will be telling you you are perfectly safe in a Cyprus where the majority are the settlers from Anatolia,as long as we have democracy,and the majority rule and human rights etc...I wonder what your reaction will be??? :)


Anatolians who would respect the RoC and show allegiance to Cyprus are preferable to TCs who harp for Mama Turkey's guarantees!

You still don't get it!
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Postby BirKibrisli » Tue Jan 12, 2010 1:24 pm

Oracle wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:
Oracle wrote:
BirKibrisli wrote:[You are wrong...My family properties in Istinjo are rased to the ground...


The land is still there for you to take back ... just like Deniz has done.

As to the state of buildings, that is a sad fact of neglect/war/earthquakes etc. They can be restored. When I drive through France the place is littered with ruins, some just piles of stones. Abandoned buildings. Some only 15 to 20 years without inhabitants and the neglect has destroyed them. But you didn't have to neglect your property (unlike the GCs). The RoC has never stopped any TCs returning or made any leave in the first place!

And where did I use he phrase "murderous GCs"??? That is a term you are trying to put in my mouth...


You are rather obsessed with portraying such an image whilst carefully avoiding the actual term. Same thing.

And you are hell bent on giving me no credit at all...It doesn't enter your bloodthirsty mind


I don't have a bloodthirsty mind. I go faint at the sight ... main reason I had to abandon being a vet :(

that I want the majority of the settlers repatriated because I do not want to assimilate into the broad Turkish society....


I want all of them to return to Turkey, plus all the TCs who refuse to recognise the RoC.

I 'd like to preserve my unique Turkish Cypriot identity....


That's not under threat in a democracy. You are free to dance and sing as you wish. But it doesn't have to monopolise our politics.

And work with likeminded GCs to build a tolerant,fair,compassionate Cypriot society and culture...But you wouldn't know the meaning of these terms anyway...Your heart is full of bitterness and hatred...And your mind is full of bullshit... :roll:


No, I am not full of bitterness and those are the things I would like to see achieved, too. But when we come to the details, your TC-ness is presented as a paramount obstacle to a democratic, fair for all society. The preservation of your TC-ness should not come above the future Cypriot ONE-nation interests.


Was Republic of Cyprus not a democracy in 1963???? Why were people running around killing each other because of their ethnic background????
Are you for real??? Was Cyprus a dictatorship between 1963-74????Why were hundreds of TC villages emptied and why did they move to safer areas???To be protected from the wild Cyprus donkeys???

Unles you get a grip on our reality there is little point discussing anything with you...I might as well be talking to a brick wall....If you think the TCs could have returned to their villages after 1974 and picked up from where they left off,you are more deluded than I imagined...but have no fear...soon I will be telling you you are perfectly safe in a Cyprus where the majority are the settlers from Anatolia,as long as we have democracy,and the majority rule and human rights etc...I wonder what your reaction will be??? :)


Anatolians who would respect the RoC and show allegiance to Cyprus are preferable to TCs who harp for Mama Turkey's guarantees!

You still don't get it!


You are right,I don't get it...
But you will be getting it soon,if you are not careful...
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Postby Expatkiwi » Tue Jan 12, 2010 6:03 pm

The TRNC flag should IMHO not be banned. You GC folk regard it as a symbol of an illigitimate political entity, but as the flag itself has support by the TC's it is at the very least representative of the TC's as a COMMUNITY, like the Greek Cross with the Kappa in the middle of the Cross that represents the GC Community.
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Postby Tim Drayton » Tue Jan 12, 2010 6:18 pm

Expatkiwi wrote:The TRNC flag should IMHO not be banned. You GC folk regard it as a symbol of an illigitimate political entity, but as the flag itself has support by the TC's it is at the very least representative of the TC's as a COMMUNITY, like the Greek Cross with the Kappa in the middle of the Cross that represents the GC Community.


On April 12, 2000, the South Carolina State Senate passed a bill to remove the Confederate flag from the top of the State House. Do you agree with this decision?
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