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[Get Real!]

If you go to any hospital emergency department, you will notice that ALL TCs are catered to first whilst the GCs are sidelined to wait their turn AFTER any TC patient, unless the GC patient was critical.

Where did you get that from? We've got a first come first served policy!

This is what I have been told by a RoC health worker in a well known hospital in Nicosia.

Apparently, the RoC's health department is too afraid of repercussions from allowing any TC to wait for medical assistance since they believe there may be some repercussions, and for this reason, any TC has priority over GCs.

Do yourself a favor and stop listening to people's bollocks!

Can you prove to me that it is bollocks?

There are some things that can't be proven or backed up, but I think Mr Patsallides, who is a good friend of mine, is a rather good source of information over a hot meal at La Trattoria in Adelaide.

It was YOUR stupid idea so the onus is on you to prove it!

RoC hospitals have a first come first served policy, just like most other places in the world.

I don't know who this Patsallides is and couldn't care less either.

[Paphitis]

If you go to any hospital emergency department, you will notice that ALL TCs are catered to first whilst the GCs are sidelined to wait their turn AFTER any TC patient, unless the GC patient was critical.

Where did you get that from? We've got a first come first served policy!

This is what I have been told by a RoC health worker in a well known hospital in Nicosia.

Apparently, the RoC's health department is too afraid of repercussions from allowing any TC to wait for medical assistance since they believe there may be some repercussions, and for this reason, any TC has priority over GCs.

Do yourself a favor and stop listening to people's bollocks!

Can you prove to me that it is bollocks?

There are some things that can't be proven or backed up, but I think Mr Patsallides, who is a good friend of mine, is a rather good source of information over a hot meal at La Trattoria in Adelaide.

It was YOUR stupid idea so the onus is on you to prove it!

RoC hospitals have a first come first served policy, just like most other places in the world.

I don't know who this Patsallides is and couldn't care less either.

I was talking about EMERGENCY DEPARTMENTS which do not have a first come first serve priority!

Patients are prioritised in order of the severity of their ailments or injuries and Cyprus is no different unless there are TC patients also waiting for medical assistance.

This is not something I can prove other than relying on hearsay from health workers and getting final confirmation from Mr Patsallides when he visited recently!

Christos Patsallides is the RoC's Health Minister!

http://www.cyprus.gov.cy/MOI/pio/pio.ns ... enDocument

[Paphitis]

We already show empathy and understanding to the TCs as most have RoC passports, ID cards, and are allowed free medical help.

If you go to any hospital emergency department, you will notice that ALL TCs are catered to first whilst the GCs are sidelined to wait their turn AFTER any TC patient, unless the GC patient was critical.

First? Is this true? What more empathy and understanding do you want, Bir? Even your thugs go to the front of the health queue.

Malapapa, I'm not 100% certain that this is true other than the fact that this is what I have been told from a Health Worker I know, and was given some verbal confirmation over a bottle of wine and pasta with a very good friend of mine in Adelaide. I don't believe that he would speak bollocks as GR! insinuated.

Furthermore, I am astounded that he does not know the RoC's Health Minister!

[Oracle]

We already show empathy and understanding to the TCs as most have RoC passports, ID cards, and are allowed free medical help.

If you go to any hospital emergency department, you will notice that ALL TCs are catered to first whilst the GCs are sidelined to wait their turn AFTER any TC patient, unless the GC patient was critical.

First? Is this true? What more empathy and understanding do you want, Bir? Even your thugs go to the front of the health queue.

Malapapa, I'm not 100% certain that this is true other than the fact that this is what I have been told from a Health Worker I know, and was given some verbal confirmation over a bottle of wine and pasta with a very good friend of mine in Adelaide. I don't believe that he would speak bollocks as GR! insinuated.

Furthermore, I am astounded that he does not know the RoC's Health Minister!

I don't know the Health Minister in the UK, so what?

But, I can well believe your story as it's typical of GCs to show greater respect, sympathy, consideration to others, above themselves and their own.

Maybe the Health workers feel sorry for the TCs and treat them first.

Maybe the Health workers are aware the TCs have travelled some distance, and maybe under criticism from Turks, and so they show them real GC hospitality ....

Unlike some who plead a leitmotif of "empathy and compassion" yet support racist ethnic cleansing and abuse of Human Rights in some atavistic reversion ... the GCs "robotically" acknowledge respect of Rights and Law yet bend towards unconditional love and sympathy of any human being they feel deserves a little extra pity ....

It is this which fueled the expectations of TCs in the past. It was our generosity they abused, and do so still.

[Paphitis]

We already show empathy and understanding to the TCs as most have RoC passports, ID cards, and are allowed free medical help.

If you go to any hospital emergency department, you will notice that ALL TCs are catered to first whilst the GCs are sidelined to wait their turn AFTER any TC patient, unless the GC patient was critical.

First? Is this true? What more empathy and understanding do you want, Bir? Even your thugs go to the front of the health queue.

Malapapa, I'm not 100% certain that this is true other than the fact that this is what I have been told from a Health Worker I know, and was given some verbal confirmation over a bottle of wine and pasta with a very good friend of mine in Adelaide. I don't believe that he would speak bollocks as GR! insinuated.

Furthermore, I am astounded that he does not know the RoC's Health Minister!

I don't know the Health Minister in the UK, so what?

But, I can well believe your story as it's typical of GCs to show greater respect, sympathy, consideration to others, above themselves and their own.

Maybe the Health workers feel sorry for the TCs and treat them first.

Maybe the Health workers are aware the TCs have travelled some distance, and maybe under criticism from Turks, and so they show them GC hospitality ....

Maybe, but they are strong insinuations that TCs are given greater priority due to the political circumstances of Cyprus.

I was only surprised that GR! does not know the RoC's Health Minister because of all the people you would think would know, he is one of them. That's all!

At the moment, I am having difficulty remembering Australia's Opposition Leader since they have changed so often.

[B25]

We already show empathy and understanding to the TCs as most have RoC passports, ID cards, and are allowed free medical help.

If you go to any hospital emergency department, you will notice that ALL TCs are catered to first whilst the GCs are sidelined to wait their turn AFTER any TC patient, unless the GC patient was critical.

First? Is this true? What more empathy and understanding do you want, Bir? Even your thugs go to the front of the health queue.

Malapapa, I'm not 100% certain that this is true other than the fact that this is what I have been told from a Health Worker I know, and was given some verbal confirmation over a bottle of wine and pasta with a very good friend of mine in Adelaide. I don't believe that he would speak bollocks as GR! insinuated.

Furthermore, I am astounded that he does not know the RoC's Health Minister!

Damn right it's true. There are even signs saying TC have priority, F cheek if you ask me.

Why the hell should they get priority, its just not enough that we have to give them the FREE health care when they make no contrubutions and hold the rest of the country by gunpoint they have the cheek to ask for more.

Our sick government is too soft and affords these people privilages at our expense. If they want benefits from the RoC they should come into the fold, oh, but I forgot, they don't recognise us, theiving bastards.

Bir you are full of shit, you expect empathy and compassion for your community, but you show none yourself. You want us to accept our wrong doings (which we already have), but you won't accept your own.

Bloody cheek!

[Paphitis]

We already show empathy and understanding to the TCs as most have RoC passports, ID cards, and are allowed free medical help.

If you go to any hospital emergency department, you will notice that ALL TCs are catered to first whilst the GCs are sidelined to wait their turn AFTER any TC patient, unless the GC patient was critical.

First? Is this true? What more empathy and understanding do you want, Bir? Even your thugs go to the front of the health queue.

Malapapa, I'm not 100% certain that this is true other than the fact that this is what I have been told from a Health Worker I know, and was given some verbal confirmation over a bottle of wine and pasta with a very good friend of mine in Adelaide. I don't believe that he would speak bollocks as GR! insinuated.

Furthermore, I am astounded that he does not know the RoC's Health Minister!

Damn right it's true. There are even signs saying TC have priority, F cheek if you ask me.

Why the hell should they get priority, its just not enough that we have to give them the FREE health care when they make no contrubutions and hold the rest of the country by gunpoint they have the cheek to ask for more.

Our sick government is too soft and affords these people privilages at our expense. If they want benefits from the RoC they should come into the fold, oh, but I forgot, they don't recognise us, theiving bastards.

Bir you are full of shit, you expect empathy and compassion for your community, but you show none yourself. You want us to accept our wrong doings (which we already have), but you won't accept your own.

Bloody cheek!

Now all we need is to post a picture of one of these signs for GR's benefit!

If this is true, then the RoC has made it official policy which means it is much worse than once thought!

[Malapapa]

Now all we need is to post a picture of one of these signs for GR's benefit!

Here is the sign at the maximum security mental health ward, where TCs receive priority treatment:

[Paphitis]

First? Is this true? What more empathy and understanding do you want, Bir? Even your thugs go to the front of the health queue.

Calling sick people 'thugs' isnt exactly showing empnathy is it?

My point is, if this is the unwritten policy, even if they are thugs or belligerents or partitionist TCs, they get seen first.

It is not the TC patients that 'demand ' that they go to the front of the queue. In my mind they are serious cases which the North may or may not be able to cater for. Any ospital (EU standard) will operate a proper 'Triage' system.

Calling them thugs makes you worse than EOKA B MP. Shame really.

Don't go looking for demons that aren't there.

The reason why I highlighted this point is to prove that the RoC already extends loads of empathy and understanding towards the TCs and in so many ways. From increased health coverage over and above the RoC's tax contributors, the GCs, to passports and ID cards plus much more.

This is why I have posted many times that the TCs are first class citizens, whilst the GCs are second class citizens. The most discriminated Cypriots citizens are those that do not permanently reside in Cyprus and are the nations third class of citizen. That is people such as you and I, and the reason why I say this is because citizens who live abroad are not allowed to vote in national elections, and the irony of this is that Cypriot citizens living abroad, some who are even refugees and former CNG veterans, did not have their say during the Annan referendum and still won't have their say at the next referendum, if there is ever to be one, whilst the illegal Turkish settlers will have their say.

If this is not an injustice, then I don't know what is. I would even advocate Cypriot citizens living abroad taking the RoC Government to the ECHR over this matter if it were not for the nation's dire straits and predicament since the RoC is held to ransom at gunpoint.

Most other democratic nations actually allow citizens living abroad to vote, and even set up polling stations at their embassies.

As far as I'm concerned, it does not matter how much empathy or understanding towards the TC we have, and we already have proven to be enormously understanding and accommodating, most TCs don't want a solution since most utilize and benefit from stolen properties, have "government" jobs and are on Turkey's payroll. They only want a 'solution' which maintains the Treaty of Alliance and Guarantee, maintains Turkish Troops on Cyprus, won't allow the GCs freedom of movement to claim their rightful homes, will not allow the GCs the right of residency in their so called 'constituent state', and will afford them additional rights over the GCs until it is such time to sever the Federation and form their own independent Turkic State with international recognition. The signs are ominous!

So one might well ask the TCs if they have shown empathy and understanding towards the GCs, because they have given no such thing. Perhaps they believe they don't have to since they have the upper hand and occupy a large junk of RoC territory, and since they are militarily at an advantage from Turkey's occupation troops.

[Paphitis]

Now all we need is to post a picture of one of these signs for GR's benefit!

Here is the sign at the maximum security mental health ward, where TCs receive priority treatment:

What can I say?

We can continue to extend empathy and understanding, and we will continue to be repaid with the above graffiti on the mountainside as a sign of their very own empathy and understanding towards 800,000 Cypriots!

Has anyone asked them to remove this graffiti as a gesture of goodwill and as a gesture of empathy and understanding? And if so, what was the answer?