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Postby Get Real! » Sun Jan 10, 2010 1:00 pm

Malapapa wrote:OK. So we have empathy and compassion, not hatred and bitterness. We don't make light of other people's pain and don't keep talking about war.

Now what?

Now it’s back to BirKibrisli’s “humanitarian” scandal whereby they get to hold our properties at ransom and continue to blackmail us pushing for the Turkification of Cyprus! :wink:

That’s how much respect they have for the indigenous people of Cyprus!
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Postby Malapapa » Sun Jan 10, 2010 1:02 pm

Tim Drayton wrote:It seems Rauf Denktash had twin daughters named Ender and Değer.


Is either Ender of Değer Turkish for Maureen?
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Postby Malapapa » Sun Jan 10, 2010 1:03 pm

Get Real! wrote:
Malapapa wrote:OK. So we have empathy and compassion, not hatred and bitterness. We don't make light of other people's pain and don't keep talking about war.

Now what?

Now it’s back to BirKibrisli’s “humanitarian” scandal whereby they get to hold our properties at ransom and continue to blackmail us pushing for the Turkification of Cyprus! :wink:

That’s how much respect they have for the indigenous people of the Cyprus!


I'm waiting to see.... Now what, BirKibrisli? And others? Now what?
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Postby miltiades » Sun Jan 10, 2010 1:18 pm

Malapapa wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Malapapa wrote:OK. So we have empathy and compassion, not hatred and bitterness. We don't make light of other people's pain and don't keep talking about war.

Now what?

We continue our political battle as an independent nation member of the UN and the EU ,


Yes.

miltiades wrote:we recognize that this island is equally owned by all Cypriots ,


Yes. Equally owned by all Cypriots who are equally responsible for its well-being and independence

miltiades wrote:we recognize and do something about our two faced diplomacy where on the one hand we tell the world that ALL of Cyprus is for ALL Cypriots while on the other hand we exclude the non G/Cs by flying the Greek flag on government buildings


Does this still happen? I thought people were wising up. If so, it's stupid. Hurry up and get the flags under control.

miltiades wrote: therefore putting two fingers up to those that are not G/Cs or to those G/Cs such as my self whose only allegiance is to the nation that is recognized internationally as a sovereign state , the nation of Cyprus. O nouros to shillou en ishionni.
What the fuck are we doing to Cyprus. Do we want Cyprus to continue its struggle as an independent nation or do we want to gift what we have left to Greece.
We shall NEVER learn. We are Cypriots , our flag is that of the RoC as recognized by all. Our national anthem is a fucking slap in the face for those of us who are aligned to Greece and neither do we consider Greece to be anything other than a related country.


Errr, national anthem? Yes. It should be changed.

miltiades wrote:Embrace our Cypriotness , actively encourage the T/Cs to do so too but show them with action and not words that we are genuine.
Down with all foreign flags depicting our island as bastard nation .


Great. Assuming that's all done (and it's taking time to convince some, given the psychology of the 40,000 foreign troops, the gloating flag on the mountain in lights, the settlers, the carpetbaggers, the mosques, the Ataturk statues, the desecration of churches and graveyards, the memories of the horrors of 1974, etc)... now what?

Can I ask are you based in Cyprus ?
The monstrosity of a flag on our Cypriot mountains , statues of foreign leaders past and present are a sore for most Cypriots , T/Cs included.
Lets get our house in order first and also let us begin to act as we preach , ie that Cyprus is an independent nation and not a part of either Greece or Turkey because by continuing the promotion of Greece by using IT'S anthem and flag we are concurring fully with Turkeys position that on this island there are two nations. We are , without realizing perhaps , promoting Turkish propaganda , we are saying loud and clear that we are "Greek Cyprus " not Cyprus .Can you see the hypocrisy in this .
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Postby Paphitis » Sun Jan 10, 2010 1:20 pm

Malapapa wrote:
Get Real! wrote:
Malapapa wrote:OK. So we have empathy and compassion, not hatred and bitterness. We don't make light of other people's pain and don't keep talking about war.

Now what?

Now it’s back to BirKibrisli’s “humanitarian” scandal whereby they get to hold our properties at ransom and continue to blackmail us pushing for the Turkification of Cyprus! :wink:

That’s how much respect they have for the indigenous people of the Cyprus!


I'm waiting to see.... Now what, BirKibrisli? And others? Now what?


The occupation continues, the Turkification continues, and they try to convince us that we should sign over control of the north over to Turkey, thus legitimizing their gains!

Perhaps Miltiades can also answer along with Bir!
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Postby Paphitis » Sun Jan 10, 2010 1:23 pm

miltiades wrote:
Malapapa wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Malapapa wrote:OK. So we have empathy and compassion, not hatred and bitterness. We don't make light of other people's pain and don't keep talking about war.

Now what?

We continue our political battle as an independent nation member of the UN and the EU ,


Yes.

miltiades wrote:we recognize that this island is equally owned by all Cypriots ,


Yes. Equally owned by all Cypriots who are equally responsible for its well-being and independence

miltiades wrote:we recognize and do something about our two faced diplomacy where on the one hand we tell the world that ALL of Cyprus is for ALL Cypriots while on the other hand we exclude the non G/Cs by flying the Greek flag on government buildings


Does this still happen? I thought people were wising up. If so, it's stupid. Hurry up and get the flags under control.

miltiades wrote: therefore putting two fingers up to those that are not G/Cs or to those G/Cs such as my self whose only allegiance is to the nation that is recognized internationally as a sovereign state , the nation of Cyprus. O nouros to shillou en ishionni.
What the fuck are we doing to Cyprus. Do we want Cyprus to continue its struggle as an independent nation or do we want to gift what we have left to Greece.
We shall NEVER learn. We are Cypriots , our flag is that of the RoC as recognized by all. Our national anthem is a fucking slap in the face for those of us who are aligned to Greece and neither do we consider Greece to be anything other than a related country.


Errr, national anthem? Yes. It should be changed.

miltiades wrote:Embrace our Cypriotness , actively encourage the T/Cs to do so too but show them with action and not words that we are genuine.
Down with all foreign flags depicting our island as bastard nation .


Great. Assuming that's all done (and it's taking time to convince some, given the psychology of the 40,000 foreign troops, the gloating flag on the mountain in lights, the settlers, the carpetbaggers, the mosques, the Ataturk statues, the desecration of churches and graveyards, the memories of the horrors of 1974, etc)... now what?

Can I ask are you based in Cyprus ?
The monstrosity of a flag on our Cypriot mountains , statues of foreign leaders past and present are a sore for most Cypriots , T/Cs included.
Lets get our house in order first and also let us begin to act as we preach , ie that Cyprus is an independent nation and not a part of either Greece or Turkey because by continuing the promotion of Greece by using IT'S anthem and flag we are concurring fully with Turkeys position that on this island there are two nations. We are , without realizing perhaps , promoting Turkish propaganda , we are saying loud and clear that we are "Greek Cyprus " not Cyprus .Can you see the hypocrisy in this .


Practice what we preach?

What's that you imbecile. All GCs are Cypriot first and foremost, but that does not mean they should abolish/abandon any real or perceived Hellenic inheritance if they don't want to.

But let's say they do. Then what?
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Postby Malapapa » Sun Jan 10, 2010 1:28 pm

miltiades wrote:Can I ask are you based in Cyprus ?


No. Does it matter?

miltiades wrote:The monstrosity of a flag on our Cypriot mountains , statues of foreign leaders past and present are a sore for most Cypriots , T/Cs included.
Lets get our house in order first and also let us begin to act as we preach , ie that Cyprus is an independent nation and not a part of either Greece or Turkey because by continuing the promotion of Greece by using IT'S anthem and flag we are concurring fully with Turkeys position that on this island there are two nations. We are , without realizing perhaps , promoting Turkish propaganda , we are saying loud and clear that we are "Greek Cyprus " not Cyprus .Can you see the hypocrisy in this .


Yes I do. So Cypriots finally wise up fully and stop promoting Turkey's propaganda. (I think good progress has been made in this direction, by the way).

So we do all that. Now what?
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Postby Paphitis » Sun Jan 10, 2010 1:31 pm

Malapapa wrote:
miltiades wrote:Can I ask are you based in Cyprus ?


No. Does it matter?

miltiades wrote:The monstrosity of a flag on our Cypriot mountains , statues of foreign leaders past and present are a sore for most Cypriots , T/Cs included.
Lets get our house in order first and also let us begin to act as we preach , ie that Cyprus is an independent nation and not a part of either Greece or Turkey because by continuing the promotion of Greece by using IT'S anthem and flag we are concurring fully with Turkeys position that on this island there are two nations. We are , without realizing perhaps , promoting Turkish propaganda , we are saying loud and clear that we are "Greek Cyprus " not Cyprus .Can you see the hypocrisy in this .


Yes I do. So Cypriots finally wise up fully and stop promoting Turkey's propaganda. (I think good progress has been made in this direction, by the way).

So we do all that. Now what?


Turkey's propaganda is circumvented but their objectives remain. All in all, nothing changes.
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Postby EPSILON » Sun Jan 10, 2010 1:35 pm

paaul12 wrote:whats up now 4 fcuk sake :lol:


Nothing happen dear, just G/cs starting to realize with whom they are negotiating with.Just with bastards of history who are trying to create a state with the force of arms.But hey are making (G/cs) and of course these who are represented by the North flag a huge mistake.

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Postby Malapapa » Sun Jan 10, 2010 1:38 pm

Paphitis wrote:
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So we do all that. Now what?


Turkey's propaganda is circumvented but their objectives remain. All in all, nothing changes.


Surely not. BirKibrisli? Viewpoint? Agincourt? Is that true?
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