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Postby Get Real! » Thu Jan 07, 2010 6:43 pm

Acikgoz wrote:GCs didn't like a plan based on UN established principles which would have lead to a united Cyprus - Papad even declared EU would get RoC what they wanted!

We have no problems with the UN plan…

UN RESOLUTION 353 (1974)

1.Calls upon all States to respect the sovereignty, independence and territorial integrity of Cyprus.

3.Demands an immediate end to foreign military intervention in the Republic of Cyprus that is in contravention of the provisions of paragraph 1 above;

4. Requests the withdrawal without delay from the Republic of Cyprus of foreign military personnel present otherwise than under the authority of international agreements, including those whose withdrawal was requested by the President of the Republic of Cyprus, Archbishop Makarios, in his letter of 2 July 1974;


http://www.un.int/cyprus/scr353.htm

Get with the program. Point the finger at yourselves, lying, cheating, manipulating low lives.

Don't be so hard on the Turks, they can't help being gypsies.
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Postby Me Ed » Thu Jan 07, 2010 7:05 pm

Well I am surprised that Talat is putting this forward as the Turkish sides point of view and that there isn't a very strong TC objection to this.

In the recent Do GCs really understand what TCs want? thread, VP challenged GCs to see if they understood the TC stance on settlers.

In this thread the TCs accused the GCs of not understanding what TCs wanted with regard to settlers and clearly stated that TCs did not want anymore settlers from Turkey post solution.

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=27958&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=40

Perhaps VP and Expatkiwi can make a comment?
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Postby Acikgoz » Thu Jan 07, 2010 7:15 pm

Me Ed, I must say I agree that this is unusual - both in content and execution.
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Postby Malapapa » Thu Jan 07, 2010 9:37 pm

Acikgoz wrote:Me Ed, I must say I agree that this is unusual - both in content and execution.


Come on, Acikgoz. The leadership in the north represents Turkey's interests; nothing more, nothing less; which is an important reason why not one iota of recognition can ever be afforded to the "TURKISH RNC". One day, when all the island is free from facsism, you'll thank free Cypriots for the brave stand that had to be taken. Until then, stop blindly blaming them for the suffering TCs are experiencing at Turkey's hands.
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Postby Kikapu » Thu Jan 07, 2010 9:49 pm

Expatkiwi wrote:
Acikgoz wrote:GCs didn't like a plan based on UN established principles which would have lead to a united Cyprus - Papad even declared EU would get RoC what they wanted!
Who's trying to manipulate whom?
Any chance GCs go back to a 1960 constitution? What and kill the b'stard child of the GCS?
Get with the program. Point the finger at yourselves, lying, cheating, manipulating low lives.


Hey! You're doing a disservice to low-lives... :D


Don't take it personally, Expat.! :lol:

I'm sure he meant it to all the other low lives.! :lol:
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Postby boulio » Thu Jan 07, 2010 9:50 pm

sometimes i really wonder what the t/c are thinking.the g/c leadership has gone a long way to accomadate the BBF model and turks just keep making even more demands.You cant ask more another country to have intervention rights in your own country,you demand that the turks be allowed the four freedoms of the EU ON A UNIFIED CYPRUS just like the greeks.Hello greeks and for that matter frence,italian,dutch etc etc are in the eu as cyorus is thats why they have the right to come and settle into cyprus.When turkey fullfiles the requirements for EU ENTRy,Than maybe turkish nationals will have the same freedoms.
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Postby Kikapu » Thu Jan 07, 2010 11:34 pm

Acikgoz wrote:GCs didn't like a plan based on UN established principles which would have lead to a united Cyprus - Papad even declared EU would get RoC what they wanted!
Who's trying to manipulate whom?
Any chance GCs go back to a 1960 constitution? What and kill the b'stard child of the GCS?
Get with the program. Point the finger at yourselves, lying, cheating, manipulating low lives.


Açikgöz, Annan Plan was defeated by 55.5% vs 44.5% by all those who voted on both sides of the divide by all Cypriots (and settlers), so respect the will of the people. It had to have been a very bad plan to receive such a landslide defeat. Just accept it.! :idea:
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Postby YFred » Thu Jan 07, 2010 11:42 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Acikgoz wrote:GCs didn't like a plan based on UN established principles which would have lead to a united Cyprus - Papad even declared EU would get RoC what they wanted!
Who's trying to manipulate whom?
Any chance GCs go back to a 1960 constitution? What and kill the b'stard child of the GCS?
Get with the program. Point the finger at yourselves, lying, cheating, manipulating low lives.


Açikgöz, Annan Plan was defeated by 55.5% vs 44.5% by all those who voted on both sides of the divide by all Cypriots (and settlers), so respect the will of the people. It had to have been a very bad plan to receive such a landslide defeat. Just accept it.! :idea:

You know very well it was not a fair vote. The very person who negotiated the deal not recommending it and appearing on TV for 2 hours crying and begging the Greek Cypriots who are on the whole of peasants stock to vote against it with most of the media against it too. Come now, you sense of fair play has deserted you yet again.
Did you see the discussion few months back when N Kizilyurek mentioned on GC TV about the atrocities by the GCs and being quickly covered up. You are a laughing stock going around pretending that vote was fair and should be respected.
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Postby Kikapu » Thu Jan 07, 2010 11:57 pm

YFred wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Acikgoz wrote:GCs didn't like a plan based on UN established principles which would have lead to a united Cyprus - Papad even declared EU would get RoC what they wanted!
Who's trying to manipulate whom?
Any chance GCs go back to a 1960 constitution? What and kill the b'stard child of the GCS?
Get with the program. Point the finger at yourselves, lying, cheating, manipulating low lives.


Açikgöz, Annan Plan was defeated by 55.5% vs 44.5% by all those who voted on both sides of the divide by all Cypriots (and settlers), so respect the will of the people. It had to have been a very bad plan to receive such a landslide defeat. Just accept it.! :idea:

You know very well it was not a fair vote. The very person who negotiated the deal not recommending it and appearing on TV for 2 hours crying and begging the Greek Cypriots who are on the whole of peasants stock to vote against it with most of the media against it too. Come now, you sense of fair play has deserted you yet again.
Did you see the discussion few months back when N Kizilyurek mentioned on GC TV about the atrocities by the GCs and being quickly covered up. You are a laughing stock going around pretending that vote was fair and should be respected.


The result was what the result was. End of story. Nobody put a gun onto the heads of those who voted OXI on both sides of the divide. The end result was, 55.5% AGAINST and 44.5% FOR.
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Postby YFred » Thu Jan 07, 2010 11:59 pm

Kikapu wrote:
YFred wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Acikgoz wrote:GCs didn't like a plan based on UN established principles which would have lead to a united Cyprus - Papad even declared EU would get RoC what they wanted!
Who's trying to manipulate whom?
Any chance GCs go back to a 1960 constitution? What and kill the b'stard child of the GCS?
Get with the program. Point the finger at yourselves, lying, cheating, manipulating low lives.


Açikgöz, Annan Plan was defeated by 55.5% vs 44.5% by all those who voted on both sides of the divide by all Cypriots (and settlers), so respect the will of the people. It had to have been a very bad plan to receive such a landslide defeat. Just accept it.! :idea:

You know very well it was not a fair vote. The very person who negotiated the deal not recommending it and appearing on TV for 2 hours crying and begging the Greek Cypriots who are on the whole of peasants stock to vote against it with most of the media against it too. Come now, you sense of fair play has deserted you yet again.
Did you see the discussion few months back when N Kizilyurek mentioned on GC TV about the atrocities by the GCs and being quickly covered up. You are a laughing stock going around pretending that vote was fair and should be respected.


The result was what the result was. End of story. Nobody put a gun onto the heads of those who voted OXI on both sides of the divide. The end result was, 55.5% AGAINST and 44.5% FOR.

Are you happy with the way roc conducted that vote?
65% of TCs said yes.
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