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What "trnc" Airspace?

Postby Paphitis » Wed Jan 06, 2010 2:47 pm

Use of Illegal Airports “ERCAN” (TYMBOU) within ROC Airspace.

1. “ERCAN” (TYMBOU) is a closed airport situated in the occupied part of the Republic of Cyprus, which the Government of Cyprus, as the sole legitimate and internationally recognized authority on the island, has declared since 1974 as an illegal point of entry into and exit from the Republic of Cyprus, for the reason of not being able to exercise control over the occupied part of its territory, as a result of the continuing Turkish military occupation. Under International law the Republic of Cyprus is the sole sovereign authority with exclusive jurisdiction to determine which of its airports on its territory are open and functioning, as well as the terms of their operation.

3. The so-called “ERCAN” airport is not recognized by ICAO, which is the highest international authority on legal issues relating to civil aviation in general. ICAO’s policy on matters relating to Cyprus is in conformity with that of the United Nations and the international community. Consequently, ICAO recognizes only the Republic of Cyprus and its Government as the sole representative of the whole island. It should also be stressed that according to ICAO decisions of 1974, 1975 and 1977, a country not exercising temporarily effective control over its territory by reason of military occupation, does not lose its sovereign rights over such territory and the airspace above it.

4. Furthermore, Turkey, in violation of the Chicago Convention on the International Civil Aviation, the constitutional instrument of ICAO, and its Annexes, to which 188 countries, including the Republic of Cyprus and Turkey, are States-Parties to and following a number of illegal acts after the Turkish invasion, proclaimed the establishment of “Ercan advisory service” which lies in the northern part of Nicosia FIR. The illegal operation of the unrecognized “ERCAN advisory service” causes serious risks over safety, flight efficiency and airspace development in the region and in particular increased workload and inconvenience both for aircrews and Nicosia ACC Controllers and leads to misunderstandings due to the intervention in the provision of Air Traffic Control Services. Ankara ACC should be called upon to adopt standard ICAO procedures and transfer southbound traffic to the contiguous Nicosia control and to take practical steps for the restoration of the voice link between Ankara and Nicosia ACC's.

5. Any possible use by international traffic, of the illegally operating airports, such as “ERCAN” (TYMPOU), violates International law, U.N. Security Council resolutions, E.U. positions and contravenes the ICAO and the EUROCONTROL Conventions, and their respective norms, standards, procedures and recommended practices.


http://www.mfa.gov.cy/mfa/Embassies/Emb ... ment&print

This is a Notice to All Airmen (NOTAM) issued to ALL aircraft flying through NICOSIA FIR:

The authority of Ercan Control over this zone for Air Traffic Control purposes is NOT recognized by ICAO.

Contrary to ICAO requirements, no contact is effected between Ankara and Nicosia ACCs. Nicosia ACC requires that aircraft approaching Nicosia FIR/UIR from Ankara FIR make pre-entry contact at least 10 minutes before the FIR boundary. It is essential that crews comply with this
requirement: only then will Nicosia ACC be in a position to assume control and provide appropriate traffic separation.


http://www.jeppesen.com/download/briefbull/fra99-a.pdf

The NOTAM was issued by Jeppesen 12 May 99 and has been active ever since.

Jeppesen is an aviation briefing, flight planning, charting, navigation and Flight Management System Data Base service provider. It is owned by Boeing making it the largest Aviation company in the world!

http://www.jeppesen.com/index.jsp

If you visit any Professional Pilot Forums such as PPRUNE and run a search on ERCAN Control, you will find threads where Airline Pilots are discussing the airspace arrangements over occupied Cyprus and the safety implications that are caused in this illegal volume of airspace. They refer to ERCAN control as "CHAOS CORNER", and if you value your life I urge you to avoid any company that utilizes this airspace without contacting the ICAO recognized authority known as NICOSIA Control.

To be a Contract State of ICAO, you must be a legitimate country. You must be recognized by the United Nations

ERCAN airport is not a recognized Airport. The airspace above Ercan belongs legitimately to The Nicosia FIR.

ERCAN does not exist on International Navigation Charts.

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The second image also denotes the Boundary of Nicosia FIR with red arrows. ANY FLIGHTS ENTERING NICOSIA FIR FROM TURKEY ARE ILLEGAL UNDER THE CHICAGO CONVENTION. There will never be direct flights.

Pay particular notice to WAYPOINTS VESAR, TOMBI, and DOREN. They are located north of Cyprus and are compulsory reporting points for all aircraft, which mans they need to contact NICOSIA ACC since this is the legitimate authority charged with the responsibility of providing traffic separation and sequencing into ROC airspace!
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Postby Expatkiwi » Thu Jan 07, 2010 2:40 am

Ercan Airport
Ercan Havalimanı
IATA: ECN – ICAO: LCEN
Summary
Airport type Public
Operator Northern Cyprus
Serves Nicosia & areas north of the Green Line
Location Ercan/Tymvou
Elevation AMSL 403 ft / 123 m
Coordinates 35°09′35″N 033°30′00″E / 35.15972°N 33.5°E / 35.15972; 33.5 Website [url]ercanairportnorthcyprus.com[/url]
Runways
Direction Length Surface
ft m
11/29 9,038 2,755 Paved
16/34 5,905 1,800 Paved
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Postby Get Real! » Thu Jan 07, 2010 3:19 am

Expatkiwi wrote:Ercan Airport
Ercan Havalimanı
IATA: ECN – ICAO: LCEN
Summary
Airport type Public
Operator Northern Cyprus
Serves Nicosia & areas north of the Green Line
Location Ercan/Tymvou
Elevation AMSL 403 ft / 123 m
Coordinates 35°09′35″N 033°30′00″E / 35.15972°N 33.5°E / 35.15972; 33.5 Website [url]ercanairportnorthcyprus.com[/url]
Runways
Direction Length Surface
ft m
11/29 9,038 2,755 Paved
16/34 5,905 1,800 Paved

I could post the details of a house I broke into like its address, number of bedrooms, total floor space etc, but it still doesn’t make me the legal owner of it so if you’re trying to make a point here I don’t know what the hell it is…

UN RESOLUTION 541 (1983)

Considering therefore that the attempt to create a "Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus", is invalid

Deplores the declaration of the Turkish Cypriot authorities of the purported secession of part of the Republic of Cyprus

Considers the declaration referred to above as legally invalid and calls for its withdrawal;

Calls upon all States not to recognise any Cypriot state other than the Republic of Cyprus


http://www.un.int/cyprus/scr541.htm
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Postby Expatkiwi » Thu Jan 07, 2010 3:48 am

Letting you know that ICAO has an airport code for Ercan...
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Postby Get Real! » Thu Jan 07, 2010 8:28 am

Expatkiwi wrote:Letting you know that ICAO has an airport code for Ercan...

Wrong, ICAO does NOT have an airport code for the illegal airport…


INTER-OFFICE MEMORANDUM (May 2008)

l) in response to a query from Cyprus concerning the reference to the aerodrome in the
occupied part of Cyprus (Ercan) in SADISOPSG documents, a clarification letter was
prepared emphasizing that the references had been included in working papers
submitted by IATA, which did not imply a change in the ICAO policy


http://www-sec.icao.int/search?q=cache: ... d&oe=UTF-8

It’s coming from this private organization called IATA, where any airline can register!

http://www.iata.org/index.htm
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Postby Paphitis » Thu Jan 07, 2010 1:00 pm

Expatkiwi wrote:Ercan Airport
Ercan Havalimanı
IATA: ECN – ICAO: LCEN
Summary
Airport type Public
Operator Northern Cyprus
Serves Nicosia & areas north of the Green Line
Location Ercan/Tymvou
Elevation AMSL 403 ft / 123 m
Coordinates 35°09′35″N 033°30′00″E / 35.15972°N 33.5°E / 35.15972; 33.5 Website [url]ercanairportnorthcyprus.com[/url]
Runways
Direction Length Surface
ft m
11/29 9,038 2,755 Paved
16/34 5,905 1,800 Paved


Try again Expat!

Find me just one official navigation chart issued by Jeppesen or any other official aeronautical chart provider that actually depicts a separate FIR over occupied Cyprus.

The authority of Ercan Control over this zone for Air Traffic Control purposes is NOT recognized by ICAO.

Contrary to ICAO requirements, no contact is effected between Ankara and Nicosia ACCs. Nicosia ACC requires that aircraft approaching Nicosia FIR/UIR from Ankara FIR make pre-entry contact at least 10 minutes before the FIR boundary. It is essential that crews comply with this
requirement: only then will Nicosia ACC be in a position to assume control and provide appropriate traffic separation.


http://www.jeppesen.com/download/briefbull/fra99-a.pdf

Is there anything official that refutes these official aeronautical documents pilots use? :wink:
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Postby AWE » Thu Jan 07, 2010 1:16 pm

Oh well then. Better shoot down anything trying to fly into or out of it then - defend the RoC airspace at all costs don't you think?
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Postby Paphitis » Thu Jan 07, 2010 1:21 pm

AWE wrote:Oh well then. Better shoot down anything trying to fly into or out of it then - defend the RoC airspace at all costs don't you think?


The RoC has every right to do this as well, however this is not what is being discussed.

The discussion is about the non existent "trnc" airspace (FIR) which is not depicted on any formal documentation!

Perhaps you have something to add which can disprove any of the factual information above.
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Postby AWE » Thu Jan 07, 2010 1:47 pm

if it does not esist then the aircraft flying into and out of everyday dont exist - did you notice in the first map you posted they use the name Girne, Gazimagusa and Guzelyurt?
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Postby Paphitis » Thu Jan 07, 2010 2:02 pm

AWE wrote:if it does not esist then the aircraft flying into and out of everyday dont exist - did you notice in the first map you posted they use the name Girne, Gazimagusa and Guzelyurt?


I have noticed.

Have you not noticed the fact that the entire airspace is depicted as NICOSIA FIR and recognized to be under RoC jurisdiction?

Why do international aircraft always contact NICOSIA ACC when over occupied Cyprus and just dial ERCAN to say G'Day so as to not appear rude when disregarding any ERCAN instructions? :lol:

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Can anyone see any "trnc" airspace?
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