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[Oracle]

all this talk about Ercan airport reminded me of a limerick I used to quote quite a bit on this forum....

When i was going down the stair
I met a man who wasn't there
He wasn't there again today
Oh how I wish he'd go away...

Imagining things again, BirKibrisli?

[Expatkiwi]

I moved to Arkansas because my wife went to college here ...

KKK Campus, perhaps?

Expat, you are the archetype Klansman. What with your obsessive passions, symbolisms with flags, support of colonialists and overall anti-Greek stance because you abhor democracy, enlightenment and long-lived cultures.

Your irrational arguments that you support the "trnc" because you simply like their "flag" sums up your mentality. It's a crying shame that in the name of freedom of speech, we have to put up with quite so much "ideological" junk from you and every other racist KKK activist hiding behind a white cloth of "innocence"!

First and foremost Popsicle, Maureen went to Baptist University. Secondly, I regard the KKK as a bunch of kooks! You seem to think that every Caucasian person in Arkansas wears a white robe and participates in lynchings and cross-burnings!
I'm not going to apologize for liking the TRNC flag, or having Turkish Cypriot Friends. Capeche?

[Viewpoint]

Did you know that over 100 villages were ethnically cleased during 1963/64 events???

I don't think you can call it an "ethnic cleansing" when the abandonment of TC villages/homes was the result of Turkish Cypriot TMT coercion!

It was in GC interests that TCs stay put in their homes to thwart Turkey's partition plans.

Now,take the obvious propaganda line and say that they left their homes, where their ancestors lived for hundreds of years,voluntarily!!! go on ,Paphidis,make my day...

I see you left this bit out...It was meant for Paphidis but applies to you too...I see there is not much hope for any objctive analysis....Better get your troops ready for the all-out-war you have been threatening,Tiberius (with a keyboard)...

It’s a well established fact that many Turkish Cypriots and Turkey, aimed for partition making them the ones who wanted TCs to move north into enclaves so as to facilitate partition, whereas the Greek Cypriots wanted TCs to stay put so as to avoid partition, so your allegations that Greek Cypriots made them leave have no standing whatsoever!

You’ve got no legs to stand on!

So what you are saying is the Greek Coup (enosis) which gave Turkey the excuse to intervene drove you GCs out of your homes?

[Oracle]

Did you know that over 100 villages were ethnically cleased during 1963/64 events???

I don't think you can call it an "ethnic cleansing" when the abandonment of TC villages/homes was the result of Turkish Cypriot TMT coercion!

It was in GC interests that TCs stay put in their homes to thwart Turkey's partition plans.

Now,take the obvious propaganda line and say that they left their homes, where their ancestors lived for hundreds of years,voluntarily!!! go on ,Paphidis,make my day...

I see you left this bit out...It was meant for Paphidis but applies to you too...I see there is not much hope for any objctive analysis....Better get your troops ready for the all-out-war you have been threatening,Tiberius (with a keyboard)...

It’s a well established fact that many Turkish Cypriots and Turkey, aimed for partition making them the ones who wanted TCs to move north into enclaves so as to facilitate partition, whereas the Greek Cypriots wanted TCs to stay put so as to avoid partition, so your allegations that Greek Cypriots made them leave have no standing whatsoever!

You’ve got no legs to stand on!

So what you are saying is the Greek Coup (enosis) which gave Turkey the excuse to intervene drove you GCs out of your homes?

The coup was not about Enosis since they did not dissolve the Republic. It was about removing Makarios, something you TCs were asking for all along!

Make your minds up!

As for Turkey "intervening" ... it had no rights since the UN was in charge of security on the island after you lot bombed us in 1964.

[BirKibrisli]

... Now,take the obvious propaganda line and say that they left their homes, where their ancestors lived for hundreds of years,voluntarily!!! go on

Just because Turkey twists the ethnic cleansing of 1974, it does not give YOU license to use the same reasoning as only an "argument" against the facts of what actually happened in 1963/4.

This is were you have to wise up, Bir, if you don't want to be part of the Turkish machinery. You should look at the facts and stop thinking a few deaths justify the sole aim of partition of the island by Turkey. Otherwise we will be led to believe you are only justifying your demand for GAINS.

You cannot deny us reality and facts because you wish to replace them with your version of "empathy" for TCs.

You are trying to tell me what my motivation is again,Oracle...That is mind reading...A serious cognitive distortion...

Turkey does what suits Turkey,as you are doing...By closing your mind to the real facts you are becoming part of the propaganda war...
I on the oher hand,having lived through and remember those events,I am trying to wake you up...sure,the TMT was encouraging the TCs to break away...But that would never have been enough,if there wasn't real fear in the TCs regarding their future ,their physical safety in the hands of the EOKA...Where did I say " few death justify partition"...What I am saying is : You will have your partition unless you wake up to yourselves,stop minimising the TC pain and loss,so the TCs can begin to trust and respect you.... The more you deny the original sins of your fathers the more the TCs will mistrust you...
I will say it again: my family lost everything when they left the South..My grandfather built his land holdings from zero...He worked his guts out for 50 odd years to achieve what he did...His partner when he started buying and selling off the back of a donkey was my great Uncle,his brother in law...They walked all around Paphos region barefooted behind their donkeys to get the business started...In 63/64 events that great Uncle of mine was killed on his sick bed by some opportunistic thugs who happened to be of GC background...b ecause he could not escape over the mountains like the rest of his villagers,to escape the coming GC attack... You are insulting me,rubbing salt in my wounds when you deny my life experiences, say I exaggerate everything to justify the TC gains...I am asking again,what TC gains??? Most TCs lost big time,especially those who left the island before 74...You try telling the loved ones of my great Uncle (who I didn't know well,btw) that they should take comfort because more GCs have been killed since...And then expect them to trust and respect you and come and live with you in your democratic paradise...You must be bonkers...Or you know exactly what you are doing...working for Partition....Keep going with your denials and insults and that is exactly what you will get...

[Get Real!]

What I am saying is : You will have your partition unless you wake up to yourselves,stop minimising the TC pain and loss,so the TCs can begin to trust and respect you....

First of all, we already have partition so quit firing blanks at everyone!

Second, you foolishly assume that the Cyprus Problem is about a lack of GC trust and that once that is sorted out we have a chance to fix things, but you fail to tell us…

WHO THE FUCK IS GOING TO TRUST THE INCOMPETENT, TREASONOUS, TURKISH-ENOSIS DRIVEN, UTTERLY CORRUPT, AND SPOILT TURKISH CYPRIOTS???

And here you were thinking that Turkish Cypriots had a problem!

[BirKibrisli]

Did you know that over 100 villages were ethnically cleased during 1963/64 events???

I don't think you can call it an "ethnic cleansing" when the abandonment of TC villages/homes was the result of Turkish Cypriot TMT coercion!

It was in GC interests that TCs stay put in their homes to thwart Turkey's partition plans.

Now,take the obvious propaganda line and say that they left their homes, where their ancestors lived for hundreds of years,voluntarily!!! go on ,Paphidis,make my day...

I see you left this bit out...It was meant for Paphidis but applies to you too...I see there is not much hope for any objctive analysis....Better get your troops ready for the all-out-war you have been threatening,Tiberius (with a keyboard)...

It’s a well established fact that many Turkish Cypriots and Turkey, aimed for partition making them the ones who wanted TCs to move north into enclaves so as to facilitate partition, whereas the Greek Cypriots wanted TCs to stay put so as to avoid partition, so your allegations that Greek Cypriots made them leave have no standing whatsoever!

You’ve got no legs to stand on!

And you have both feet firmly implanted in GC official propaganda...
Without the history of ENOSIS,the EOKA and the odd massacre here and there (which you keep minimising),the TMT had Buckley's chance of getting the TCs to move from their ancestral homes...Back to school,Tiberius,and this time try finding some objective books to read...

[BirKibrisli]

What I am saying is : You will have your partition unless you wake up to yourselves,stop minimising the TC pain and loss,so the TCs can begin to trust and respect you....

First of all, we already have partition so quit firing blanks at everyone!

Second, you foolishly assume that the Cyprus Problem is about a lack of GC trust and that once that is sorted out we have a chance to fix things, but you fail to tell us…

WHO THE FUCK IS GOING TO TRUST THE INCOMPETENT, TREASONOUS, TURKISH-ENOSIS DRIVEN, UTTERLY CORRUPT, AND SPOILT TURKISH CYPRIOTS???

And here you were thinking that Turkish Cypriots had a problem!

Yep...Just ignore the essential parts of my post,and make your smart alec comments on the last sentence...How intelligent of you,Tiberius!
I have never seen anyone as blind as you and your alter ego...
You better go and get ready for your war,at this rate the future generation of Cypriots will be condemned to live with conflict and insecurity filled with bitterness and hatred....Just like the last 3 generations...partition hasnt happened yet..It will happen when Turkey annexes the North and you will be sharing Cyprus with one million settlers,sorry new Turkish Cypriots!

[Get Real!]

It’s a well established fact that many Turkish Cypriots and Turkey, aimed for partition making them the ones who wanted TCs to move north into enclaves so as to facilitate partition, whereas the Greek Cypriots wanted TCs to stay put so as to avoid partition, so your allegations that Greek Cypriots made them leave have no standing whatsoever!

You’ve got no legs to stand on!

And you have both feet firmly implanted in GC official propaganda...
Without the history of ENOSIS,the EOKA and the odd massacre here and there (which you keep minimising),the TMT had Buckley's chance of getting the TCs to move from their ancestral homes...Back to school,Tiberius,and this time try finding some objective books to read...

Unfortunately for you, the Secretary-General of the UN toasted Turkish Cypriots with…

"The Turkish Cypriot leaders have adhered to a rigid stand against any measures which might involve having members of the two communities live and work together, or which might place Turkish Cypriots in situations where they would have to acknowledge the authority of Government agents. Indeed, since the Turkish Cypriot leadership is committed to physical and geographical separation of the communities as a political goal, it is not likely to encourage activities by Turkish Cypriots which may be interpreted as demonstrating the merits of an alternative policy. The result has been a seemingly deliberate policy of self-segregation by the Turkish Cypriots"
UN Document S/6426.

Credible evidence just doesn’t get any more credible and authorized than this, so go suck an egg!

[Expatkiwi]

And you have both feet firmly implanted in GC official propaganda...
Without the history of ENOSIS,the EOKA and the odd massacre here and there (which you keep minimising),the TMT had Buckley's chance of getting the TCs to move from their ancestral homes...Back to school,Tiberius,and this time try finding some objective books to read...

The trouble is that GR has as much chance of realizing this as I have of convincing a plague of locusts to go on a starvation diet...
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