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[Tim Drayton]

Come on Bir, "inflaming certain people" - it is a reality that GCs HAVE to accept else they go on torturing themselves and us.

Here's an analogy. We were a couple, we had a crest made just for our family. Because of irreconcilable differences we split up, it was painful, one got the china and the other the surround sound, the custody battle rages on but at least we are not in physical danger from each other any more. Given we are split up I have chosen a seperate crest from yours. Just because we are not together any more why do you scream and shout when you see my new crest. I don't blame you for flaunting our damaged history crest, stop acting like a jealous tyrant when you see that I've moved on.

Most of us learn as children to tolerate views that are different to ours.

Bir, sorry but you really do come off like an Uncle Tom. “Every tyrant who has lived has believed in freedom - for himself”

Kikapu - what are you on about? VP represents the majority of the North, who are TC. Aren't you aware that Afrika has a marginal readership. Just because you don't like what the majority has to say don't try to manipulate support for your views.

I thought that Afrika had the second highest circulation figures of all the TC newspapers.

Tim highest circulation on the news papers basis are
1.Kıbrıs
2.Havadis
3.Yenidüzen
4.others

on the web results are at below link
http://www.yeniduzen.com/detay.asp?a=13858

Halil, the above article refers to visitors at the newspapers' web sites, not sales of the newspapers themselves.

[Tim Drayton]

From a dissertation dated 2006 about the Turkish Cypriot press:

http://globalmedia-tr.emu.edu.tr/bahar2 ... eteler.pdf

Beş kişilik gazeteci kadrosuyla yayınlarını sürdüren Afrika gazetesi tiraj açısından bazen ikinci, bazen de üçüncü sırada gelmektedir.

Afrika newspaper, which is brought out by a team of five journalists, sometimes occupies second and sometimes third place in terms of circulation.

[Acikgoz]

Point being Akrica and their views (Kookoo-seems to tow their line) are not mainstream TC. Kookoo seems to believe he represents views of TCs but in fact doesn't. Those that actually speak of the mainstream TC views are labeled Turks and not Turkish Cypriots.
It's childlike name calling to put down anyone that does not follow GC views. Pidgeon hole them as non-Cypriots i.e. not important to the issues of Cyprus and thereby silence their views.

[Get Real!]

Point being Akrica and their views (Kookoo-seems to tow their line) are not mainstream TC. Kookoo seems to believe he represents views of TCs but in fact doesn't. Those that actually speak of the mainstream TC views are labeled Turks and not Turkish Cypriots.
It's childlike name calling to put down anyone that does not follow GC views. Pidgeon hole them as non-Cypriots i.e. not important to the issues of Cyprus and thereby silence their views.

Perhaps “Kookoo” is wiser than you are because he knows the Turkish Cypriots as a people will ultimately disappear among Turks/Turkey given enough time, but will thrive among the Greek Cypriots.

[Tim Drayton]

A recent survey commissioned by the CTP, based on 2210 random telephone interviews, produced the following answers to the question:

In your view, with which of the following can a solution to the Cyprus problem be achieved?

29% Bi-communal, bi-zonal federation
24% Confederation based on two independent states
19% Recognition of the TRNC
18% Don’t know
5% Continuation of status quo
4% Integration with Turkey
1% Unitary Republic of Cyprus
1% There is no such thing as a Cyprus Problem

[Jimski999]

GR
That is very profound and without doubt very true.

Jimski

[Dr J]

In many broken relationships you need to sign the divorce papers so you can move on. Down the road when paths will inevitably cross again you can choose from an emotinally more stable frame of mind how to approach it

In that case, hopefully you will return to your mother's.

No twisted analogies or pointless references of speeches by Black leaders is going to make us think we are in the wrong for wanting what historically and rightfully belongs to us.

[Kikapu]

Point being Akrica and their views (Kookoo-seems to tow their line) are not mainstream TC. Kookoo seems to believe he represents views of TCs but in fact doesn't. Those that actually speak of the mainstream TC views are labeled Turks and not Turkish Cypriots.
It's childlike name calling to put down anyone that does not follow GC views. Pidgeon hole them as non-Cypriots i.e. not important to the issues of Cyprus and thereby silence their views.

I never ever stated that I speak for the majority in any ethnic group, nor to the minority. I speak only for myself as an independent from any groups, whom most seem to have their own agendas by not wanting to reach a solution based on Democracy, Human Rights, International Laws and EU Principles. Those who fall into these group are these people below;

24% Confederation based on two independent states
19% Recognition of the TRNC
5% Continuation of status quo
4% Integration with Turkey
1% There is no such thing as a Cyprus Problem

These people represent 55% who are in my view would stand to lose financially if there were to be a settlement based on True Federation, because chances are most of these people are;

a) Settlers
b) Racist-Fascists
c) Got free GCs properties
d) Bought stolen GC properties
e) Turkey loyalists
f) Anti Cypriotism

So, no, I do not represent any of these people.!

I feel sorry for these clueless individuals below. After so many years, they do not have an opinion. Where the hell have they been living all this time, or is that they do not trust in their leaders telling them the truth;

18% Don’t know.!

[Acikgoz]

Kookoo,

You speak as though you are representing the majority. Thank you for the clarification.

I guess you must admit that democracy sucks if the majority don't have your views and interests at heart.

Thank you.

Acikgoz.

[Kikapu]

Kookoo,

You speak as though you are representing the majority. Thank you for the clarification.

I guess you must admit that democracy sucks if the majority don't have your views and interests at heart.

Thank you.

Acikgoz.

Since when does the Morally Corrupted majority or the minority would want anything that will take away their ill gotten from the "spoils of war". What good is democracy if they lose their goodies, is how they will see things. Besides, I do not represent any of the Illegal Aliens (settlers) and since they are the overwhelming majority in the north, it is impossible for me to represent the majority, and that's not even counting the morally corrupted TCs on top of it. That's the reason why I do not represent the majority. That lead belongs to people like yourself and VP. Enjoy them to your hearts desires.!