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Niki, sorry but I think it's one of those not seeing the woods for the trees situation.

The average TC does not wish to undermine their position given the aims of the GC politicians. Like the GCs, they are happy in their current homes, they don't want to leave their homes a third time.

The political direction taken by the GCs is woefully repugnant to TCs. To achieve what you are saying requires an about face in GC policies. Hoping to convince TCs to reject living a somewhat unaltered life amongst a growing number of mainland Turks and instead changing their lives and culture around to fit into GC ideas of a solution is simply not going to happen. There is simply too much inertia.

In 2004 there was serious momentum. That has steadily dissapated.

As bir says, simply look at the dialogue from this forum. The fact that I cannot place a flag which I can identify with given the RoC flag is compromised in me eyes until the problem is resolved demonstrates why TCs can never accept what GCs keep insisting on.

This is a simple chat page, doesn't impact either our physical wellbeing, our family's wellbeing or our cultural freedom. If GCs can object enough to reject my identity here then what do think the average TC could do as a minority in Cyprus.

Ps. I'm not having a dig at GCs, just trying to help create better understanding.

At the end of the day, this is the land of the indigenous Cypriots; historically, numerically, financially, and in every other way you can care to mention, and those that oppose them cannot and should not expect a smooth ride on this island. It’s just common sense!

It makes as much sense as the Aboriginees in Australia saying "this is the land of the indigenous people historically,geographically,culturally and spiritually,and every other way you can care to mention,and those that oppose them cannot and should not expect a smooth ride on this continent..."

You forgot about numerically and financially!

Give it up Bir...

I didn't forget..I adapted it to the Australian situation..
What you are saying makes no sense at all...It totally ignores Cyprus history from 1571....some would say much earlier,as the indigenous Cypriots,if by that you mean the GCs, had never ruled in Cyprus,till 1960...When they did,within 3 years, they threw away the baby with the bath water...

I'm happy to include 1570... it was the year you made the biggest mistake of your lives coming here UNINVITED and murdering the Cypriot people to satisfy your barbarity and selfishness, but the tide has gradually turned and the hunter becomes the hunted.

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Get Real Get Real live with it cause it aint going away.

[BirKibrisli]

Niki, sorry but I think it's one of those not seeing the woods for the trees situation.

The average TC does not wish to undermine their position given the aims of the GC politicians. Like the GCs, they are happy in their current homes, they don't want to leave their homes a third time.

The political direction taken by the GCs is woefully repugnant to TCs. To achieve what you are saying requires an about face in GC policies. Hoping to convince TCs to reject living a somewhat unaltered life amongst a growing number of mainland Turks and instead changing their lives and culture around to fit into GC ideas of a solution is simply not going to happen. There is simply too much inertia.

In 2004 there was serious momentum. That has steadily dissapated.

As bir says, simply look at the dialogue from this forum. The fact that I cannot place a flag which I can identify with given the RoC flag is compromised in me eyes until the problem is resolved demonstrates why TCs can never accept what GCs keep insisting on.

This is a simple chat page, doesn't impact either our physical wellbeing, our family's wellbeing or our cultural freedom. If GCs can object enough to reject my identity here then what do think the average TC could do as a minority in Cyprus.

Ps. I'm not having a dig at GCs, just trying to help create better understanding.

At the end of the day, this is the land of the indigenous Cypriots; historically, numerically, financially, and in every other way you can care to mention, and those that oppose them cannot and should not expect a smooth ride on this island. It’s just common sense!

It makes as much sense as the Aboriginees in Australia saying "this is the land of the indigenous people historically,geographically,culturally and spiritually,and every other way you can care to mention,and those that oppose them cannot and should not expect a smooth ride on this continent..."

You forgot about numerically and financially!

Give it up Bir...

I didn't forget..I adapted it to the Australian situation..
What you are saying makes no sense at all...It totally ignores Cyprus history from 1571....some would say much earlier,as the indigenous Cypriots,if by that you mean the GCs, had never ruled in Cyprus,till 1960...When they did,within 3 years, they threw away the baby with the bath water...

I'm happy to include 1570... it was the year you made the biggest mistake of your lives coming here UNINVITED and murdering the Cypriot people to satisfy your barbarity and selfishness, but the tide has gradually turned and the hunter becomes the hunted.

Are you sure the "hunted" hasn't just turned paranoid and deluded?????

[BirKibrisli]

Get Real Get Real live with it cause it aint going away.

Seriously,VP...If GR is going to blame us for what happened in 1571,what is the point of talking to him????

And on another pointless exercise,why do you have the Turkish flag as your avatar...???You know it will only inflame certain people here,why do it???

[Kikapu]

Get Real Get Real live with it cause it aint going away.

Seriously,VP...If GR is going to blame us for what happened in 1571,what is the point of talking to him????

And on another pointless exercise,why do you have the Turkish flag as your avatar...???You know it will only inflame certain people here,why do it???

That's because VP represents the majority in the north, so I was told, therefore VP is no longer a TC, but part of the "Turks of Cyprus" gang. Lets respect his wishes and treat him as such! For all we know, he has a Turkish Passport and citizenship of Turkey.!

[Viewpoint]

Get Real Get Real live with it cause it aint going away.

Seriously,VP...If GR is going to blame us for what happened in 1571,what is the point of talking to him????

And on another pointless exercise,why do you have the Turkish flag as your avatar...???You know it will only inflame certain people here,why do it???

Bir you are still going through the stages of understanding exactly ow the GC mind works, over time you will realize that the GCs you call real compatriots are few and far between and that the majority are made up people like GR Piratis and the scum bag Oracle, do you still want to throw us into their hands allow them to play with our future unhindered placing us at risk every turn we take? They put up the "RoC" or Greek flag which offends my why should I put ours up?

[Viewpoint]

Get Real Get Real live with it cause it aint going away.

Seriously,VP...If GR is going to blame us for what happened in 1571,what is the point of talking to him????

And on another pointless exercise,why do you have the Turkish flag as your avatar...???You know it will only inflame certain people here,why do it???

That's because VP represents the majority in the north, so I was told, therefore VP is no longer a TC, but part of the "Turks of Cyprus" gang. Lets respect his wishes and treat him as such! For all we know, he has a Turkish Passport and citizenship of Turkey.!

Thank you for the compliment.

[BirKibrisli]

Get Real Get Real live with it cause it aint going away.

Seriously,VP...If GR is going to blame us for what happened in 1571,what is the point of talking to him????

And on another pointless exercise,why do you have the Turkish flag as your avatar...???You know it will only inflame certain people here,why do it???

Bir you are still going through the stages of understanding exactly ow the GC mind works, over time you will realize that the GCs you call real compatriots are few and far between and that the majority are made up people like GR Piratis and the scum bag Oracle, do you still want to throw us into their hands allow them to play with our future unhindered placing us at risk every turn we take? They put up the "RoC" or Greek flag which offends my why should I put ours up?

I understand why the Greek flag might offend you,but why does the Cyprus flag???People who use the Cyprus flag are the progressive,liberal GCs we should applaud...What did Ghandi say "An eye for an eye will make the whole world blind..." or something like that...Why don't we focus on what we have in common with the GCs instead of on our differences...And why should you be bloody minded even if those people you listed are???

[Viewpoint]

Get Real Get Real live with it cause it aint going away.

Seriously,VP...If GR is going to blame us for what happened in 1571,what is the point of talking to him????

And on another pointless exercise,why do you have the Turkish flag as your avatar...???You know it will only inflame certain people here,why do it???

Bir you are still going through the stages of understanding exactly ow the GC mind works, over time you will realize that the GCs you call real compatriots are few and far between and that the majority are made up people like GR Piratis and the scum bag Oracle, do you still want to throw us into their hands allow them to play with our future unhindered placing us at risk every turn we take? They put up the "RoC" or Greek flag which offends my why should I put ours up?

I understand why the Greek flag might offend you,but why does the Cyprus flag???People who use the Cyprus flag are the progressive,liberal GCs we should applaud...What did Ghandi say "An eye for an eye will make the whole world blind..." or something like that...Why don't we focus on what we have in common with the GCs instead of on our differences...And why should you be bloody minded even if those people you listed are???

Bir I bear no relation with "RoC" flag and it represents the 11 long years of suffering at the hands of the greedy GCs who turned a blind eye while we were suffering, so Ghandi is dead and we are alive and facing a revenge seeking Gc people like those on this forum you will in time realise how dangerous your good intentions really are and that they will lead us into great danger if we are not careful and capitulate to GC demands.

[Kikapu]

Get Real Get Real live with it cause it aint going away.

Seriously,VP...If GR is going to blame us for what happened in 1571,what is the point of talking to him????

And on another pointless exercise,why do you have the Turkish flag as your avatar...???You know it will only inflame certain people here,why do it???

That's because VP represents the majority in the north, so I was told, therefore VP is no longer a TC, but part of the "Turks of Cyprus" gang. Lets respect his wishes and treat him as such! For all we know, he has a Turkish Passport and citizenship of Turkey.!

Thank you for the compliment.

Please, no need to thank me. I'm just happy to address you as you portray yourself.!