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[Acikgoz]

Stick to your own committments.
Stop using the EU as your 800 pound gorilla. TCs are onboard when will you be?!

Also, EU keep adding those sticks and see the relative value of your carrots vanish.

[Expatkiwi]

Stick to your own committments.
Stop using the EU as your 800 pound gorilla. TCs are onboard when will you be?!

Also, EU keep adding those sticks and see the relative value of your carrots vanish.

Assuming that the EU is smart enough to notice...

[Malapapa]

Stick to your own committments.

Are you here representing Turkey? Why not leave that to its own citizens? Which commitments has the RoC made that it has not honoured?

Stop using the EU as your 800 pound gorilla. TCs are onboard when will you be?!

On board what?

Also, EU keep adding those sticks and see the relative value of your carrots vanish.

What carrots? Acikgoz, you have this nebulousness which makes meaningful exchanges with you near impossible.

[Malapapa]

Stick to your own committments.
Stop using the EU as your 800 pound gorilla. TCs are onboard when will you be?!

Also, EU keep adding those sticks and see the relative value of your carrots vanish.

Assuming that the EU is smart enough to notice...

You're assuming Cyprus and the EU are separate. Why do you do that? It's like saying Texas assumes the US isn't smart enough to notice something.

The EU was smart enough to welcome Cyprus into the EU in 2004. Now Cyprus is in, the EU is even smarter.

[Expatkiwi]

You're assuming Cyprus and the EU are separate. Why do you do that? It's like saying Texas assumes the US isn't smart enough to notice something.

The EU was smart enough to welcome Cyprus into the EU in 2004. Now Cyprus is in, the EU is even smarter.

You mean that the EU was stupid enough to welcome Cyprus into the EU, in the hopes that it would force the TRNC to merge itself into the RoCy. Now the EU is realizing its mistake...

[Malapapa]

You're assuming Cyprus and the EU are separate. Why do you do that? It's like saying Texas assumes the US isn't smart enough to notice something.

The EU was smart enough to welcome Cyprus into the EU in 2004. Now Cyprus is in, the EU is even smarter.

You mean that the EU was stupid enough to welcome Cyprus into the EU,

Make up your mind. Is the EU stupid or smart?

in the hopes that it would force the TRNC to merge itself into the RoCy. Now the EU is realizing its mistake...

So the EU is stupid, not smart. Good thing Cypriots are now EU citizens; we will ensure Europe will not make any more mistakes in relation to Turkey and its subordinate regime.

[Acikgoz]

If you stopped killing TCs, having them living in enclaves and pushed out of government then maybe Turkey would not have gotten involved! Sry to spout same old stuff, but come on guys, wise up and do some introspection and come up with some more legitimate comments.

Spelt out: Carrot and stick is a metaphor, conceptualise a donkey being ridden by someone, as Cypriots not difficult. The person dangles the carrot in front to get it moving to where s/he wants it to go, and at times uses a stick. In this context it is used to get Turkey to where it wants to it to go (or should we say certain members of the EU want it to go). The carrot (sweet stuff) measures and actions that benefit Turkey, the stick (painful) measures that Turkey must endure.

[Malapapa]

If you stopped killing TCs, having them living in enclaves and pushed out of government then maybe Turkey would not have gotten involved! Sry to spout same old stuff, but come on guys, wise up and do some introspection and come up with some more legitimate comments.

Spelt out: Carrot and stick is a metaphor, conceptualise a donkey being ridden by someone, as Cypriots not difficult. The person dangles the carrot in front to get it moving to where s/he wants it to go, and at times uses a stick. In this context it is used to get Turkey to where it wants to it to go (or should we say certain members of the EU want it to go). The carrot (sweet stuff) measures and actions that benefit Turkey, the stick (painful) measures that Turkey must endure.

If democracy, human rights, freedom of speech, ending torture, respect for minorities and women, reducing the role of the military in politics, normalising relations with neighbours, adherence to international law etc. are seen as sticks by Turkey, then the donkey doesn't deserve any carrots.

[Get Real!]

If you stopped killing TCs, having them living in enclaves and pushed out of government then maybe Turkey would not have gotten involved! Sry to spout same old stuff, but come on guys, wise up and do some introspection and come up with some more legitimate comments.

You just LOVE making a dork of yourself don’t you…

[Acikgoz]

Start exercising democracy in the EU then come back to me.
When you give us back our rights you took in 1963 and our suffering in enclaves then talk to me about human rights
When you stop trying to have anything TRNC censored then talk to me about freedom of speech
When you stop isolating TCs and forcing them to live as 2nd class citizens in their homeland then talk to me about torture
When you start respecting your equals on the island then talk to me about respect
When you stop buying more weapons and posturing with other countries about creating threats on the island then talk to me about military in politics
When you normalise relationships with your neighbours across the green line then open your mouth
Laws are man made and implemented by man. International law is political - when you mature in geo-political realities then talk to me.

Basically stop throwing stones, the glass house you live in is in pieces all around you - note another metaphor. Look it up.