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Postby denizaksulu » Wed Jan 06, 2010 7:34 pm

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Oracle wrote:Again, by what logic does any of the above give the Ottomans "rights" to take Cyprus?

You clearly do not know the meaning of "rights" Deniz, as we have already established on another thread.

A thought for the day, for you!


Those days they were considered rights Oracle. Its called self-preservation and it can come in many disguises.

What rights did your Helenic Brothers have to invade and spread into Anatolia in 1919. Easy gain at the expense of the crumbling Otto Empire or was it winner gets it all (being part of the victorious allies.

If you bothered to read the link, you would have found out the oppressive nature of the Venetian rule. It wasnt only the GO church was it. It was also aganst the Cypriot Jews they 'sorted' out by expelling them. The Jews Like the GO's were the favoured subjects of the Ottoman Empire. They needed protection. They got it. But that comes at a price. Heavy taxes if you like. We have gone through this before but you will play your own bouzouki/agenda. :lol:


We have already established that the GO Church is in fact treasonous and anti Cypriot. They have supported many crimes in Cyprus, which makes them more Turk and definitely NOT Greek or Cypriot!

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=27970



:shock: :shock:


You look quite shocked.

The GO Church was an accomplice to the massacre of 20,000 Cypriots and it masterminded the destruction of the true Hellenic/Cypriot identity!



Hmmm. Do you reckon the GO Church invited the Ottomans to invade the island?

No wonder Oracle is sputing lava at you. Whicj Phoenix are we to be wary of?

When I first read the topic, I took it as a joke. You are serious arent you? :?


Oracle is just one very confused woman. One minute she is atheist, the next minute she is lighting a candle.

Yes, I am very serious Deniz. The GO Church, led the Ottomans to the Nicosia and Famagusta gates. They were partly responsible for the fall of Cyprus and the island's Turkification. And now they have the audacity to act all high and almighty!



To be honest, I had an inkling of something like that. But because the source was Turkish, I never used it in arguments as I would have been accused of being a propagandist. Its different when it comes from an Oz :lol:
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Postby Oracle » Wed Jan 06, 2010 8:10 pm

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Oracle wrote:Again, by what logic does any of the above give the Ottomans "rights" to take Cyprus?

You clearly do not know the meaning of "rights" Deniz, as we have already established on another thread.

A thought for the day, for you!


Those days they were considered rights Oracle. Its called self-preservation and it can come in many disguises.


What the Ottomans did was not self-preservation but continued expansionism based on greed. Even in those days they did not have the right to invade the lands of others; so why was it the "right" of the Ottomans to take Cyprus?


What rights did your Helenic Brothers have to invade and spread into Anatolia in 1919. Easy gain at the expense of the crumbling Otto Empire or was it winner gets it all (being part of the victorious allies.


Their rights were sealed by the fact that land belonged to them for thousands of years before the Ottomans took it.

Are you now going to tell me the Greeks had no right to fight for freedom from 1821?

Sure you are, because you think it was the Ottoman's right to suppress the Cypriots from doing the same!


If you bothered to read the link, you would have found out the oppressive nature of the Venetian rule.


I've trashed those sources many times. The Venetians did not oppress the Cypriots. There was a class system and the rich Cypriots of the time were as much a part of running Cyprus as the Venetians were.
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Postby Oracle » Wed Jan 06, 2010 8:12 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Paphitis wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Oracle wrote:Again, by what logic does any of the above give the Ottomans "rights" to take Cyprus?

You clearly do not know the meaning of "rights" Deniz, as we have already established on another thread.

A thought for the day, for you!


Those days they were considered rights Oracle. Its called self-preservation and it can come in many disguises.

What rights did your Helenic Brothers have to invade and spread into Anatolia in 1919. Easy gain at the expense of the crumbling Otto Empire or was it winner gets it all (being part of the victorious allies.

If you bothered to read the link, you would have found out the oppressive nature of the Venetian rule. It wasnt only the GO church was it. It was also aganst the Cypriot Jews they 'sorted' out by expelling them. The Jews Like the GO's were the favoured subjects of the Ottoman Empire. They needed protection. They got it. But that comes at a price. Heavy taxes if you like. We have gone through this before but you will play your own bouzouki/agenda. :lol:


We have already established that the GO Church is in fact treasonous and anti Cypriot. They have supported many crimes in Cyprus, which makes them more Turk and definitely NOT Greek or Cypriot!

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.php?t=27970



:shock: :shock:


You look quite shocked.

The GO Church was an accomplice to the massacre of 20,000 Cypriots and it masterminded the destruction of the true Hellenic/Cypriot identity!



Hmmm. Do you reckon the GO Church invited the Ottomans to invade the island?

No wonder Oracle is sputing lava at you. Whicj Phoenix are we to be wary of?

When I first read the topic, I took it as a joke. You are serious arent you? :?


Oracle is just one very confused woman. One minute she is atheist, the next minute she is lighting a candle.

Yes, I am very serious Deniz. The GO Church, led the Ottomans to the Nicosia and Famagusta gates. They were partly responsible for the fall of Cyprus and the island's Turkification. And now they have the audacity to act all high and almighty!



To be honest, I had an inkling of something like that. But because the source was Turkish, I never used it in arguments as I would have been accused of being a propagandist. Its different when it comes from an Oz :lol:


Forget Paphitis. He is yet to realise just quite how clever is our GR! :lol:
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Postby Paphitis » Wed Jan 06, 2010 8:23 pm

Both you and GR! are just Ottoman collaborators and have lots of Cypriot blood on your hands. You will need to light lots of candles for your so called "God" to forgive you! :lol:
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Postby denizaksulu » Wed Jan 06, 2010 8:26 pm

Oracle wrote:
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Oracle wrote:Again, by what logic does any of the above give the Ottomans "rights" to take Cyprus?

You clearly do not know the meaning of "rights" Deniz, as we have already established on another thread.

A thought for the day, for you!


Those days they were considered rights Oracle. Its called self-preservation and it can come in many disguises.


What the Ottomans did was not self-preservation but continued expansionism based on greed. Even in those days they did not have the right to invade the lands of others; so why was it the "right" of the Ottomans to take Cyprus?


What rights did your Helenic Brothers have to invade and spread into Anatolia in 1919. Easy gain at the expense of the crumbling Otto Empire or was it winner gets it all (being part of the victorious allies.


Their rights were sealed by the fact that land belonged to them for thousands of years before the Ottomans took it.

Are you now going to tell me the Greeks had no right to fight for freedom from 1821?

Sure you are, because you think it was the Ottoman's right to suppress the Cypriots from doing the same!


If you bothered to read the link, you would have found out the oppressive nature of the Venetian rule.


I've trashed those sources many times. The Venetians did not oppress the Cypriots. There was a class system and the rich Cypriots of the time were as much a part of running Cyprus as the Venetians were.



The Helenes had every right to fight for their independence in 1821. Greek independence was fought in 'Greece' and the balkans and not Cyprus.

In your own mind you trashed the sources. Yeah yeah yeah.

I also remember your claim that the Cypriots rather give their properties to the GO Church rather than the Turks as due taxes. It seems Paphitis has trashed your claims. :lol: Oh dear me :lol: :lol: I owe him a KEO.

I do not have enough time on my hands to seek 'good' links, but then that would have been a waste of time because you would rubbish them anyway - out of [bad] habit I dare say. :wink:
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Postby Paphitis » Wed Jan 06, 2010 8:29 pm

What do you expect from a pretend Hellene/Cypriot? :lol:
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Postby denizaksulu » Wed Jan 06, 2010 8:36 pm

Paphitis wrote:What do you expect from a pretend Hellene/Cypriot? :lol:



Dont be too harsh Paphitis, she is a great fighyer. I salute her :lol:
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Postby Paphitis » Wed Jan 06, 2010 8:46 pm

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Paphitis wrote:What do you expect from a pretend Hellene/Cypriot? :lol:



Dont be too harsh Paphitis, she is a great fighyer. I salute her :lol:


Is that the 1 or 2 finger salute you give this fake Cypriot. :lol:
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Postby denizaksulu » Wed Jan 06, 2010 9:19 pm

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Paphitis wrote:What do you expect from a pretend Hellene/Cypriot? :lol:



Dont be too harsh Paphitis, she is a great fighyer. I salute her :lol:


Is that the 1 or 2 finger salute you give this fake Cypriot. :lol:



Neither. ....Its the fist...............on heart. a la Mark Anthony :lol:
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Postby Oracle » Wed Jan 06, 2010 9:35 pm

Paphitis wrote:What do you expect from a pretend Hellene/Cypriot? :lol:


I see you are still fighting only with "Outer Wisdom" Paphitis.

My lord Hermes Trismegistus has not yet welcomed you into the Fount .... :wink:

Above Hermes, below Plato ...


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.... between is the Master Key of Wisdom. 8) ... guarded by the Illuminates of Mount Athos.
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