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[gabaston]

mass rape?

you know of all the things we've said about you, i cant remember one tc ever accusing you of rape.

i saw an interview with Sampson on channel 4. next to him sat an old lady in black, no teeth, hardly any hair, must have been about 96 years. She solemnly swore she was raped by soldiers. Now of all the beautiful young gc girls i really do find it difficult to believe that anyone would have raped this old lady. thats my opinion.

i took it as her only way of fighting back and her patriotic duty.

Saying that i accept that there are violations by any soldier, of whatever creed and colour, thats down to human nature. But i find it hard to believe that mass rape would have been part of Turkish invasion policy.

Ok now for the backlash, how many of you had their grannies raped?

[Agios Amvrosios]

Gabaston:
the mass rapes of cyprus have been documented by the red cross and un. The following extract is from an article which appeared in The Sunday Times of London on 23 January 1977, written by the newspaper's Insight team.


[quote]Rape
Relevant article: No one shall be subjected to torture or to inhuman or degrading treatment or punishment.

Charge by Greek Cypriots: Turkish troops were responsible for wholesale and repeated rapes of women of all ages from 12 to 71, sometimes to such an extent that the victims suffered haemorrhages or became mental wrecks. In some areas, enforced prostitution was practised, all women and girls of a village being collected and put into separate rooms in empty houses where they were raped repeatedly.

In certain cases members of the same family were repeatedly raped, some of them in front of their own children. In other cases women were brutally raped in public.

Rapes were on many occassions accompanied by brutalities such as violent biting of the victims causing severe wounding, banging their heads on the floor and wringing their throats almost to the point of suffocation. In some cases attempts to rape were followed by the stabbing or killing of the victims, victims included pregnant and mentally-retarded women.

Evidence to commission: Testimony of doctors C and H, who examined the victims. Eyewitnesses and hearsay witnesses also gave evidence, and the commission had before it written statements from 41 alleged victims.

Dr H said he had confirmed rape in 70 cases, including:

A mentally-retarded girl of 24 was raped in her house by 20 soldiers. When she started screaming they threw her from the second-floor window. She fractured her spine and was paralysed;
One day after their arrival at Voni, Turks took girls to a nearby house and raped them;
One woman from Voni was raped on three occassions by four persons each time. She became pregnant;
One girl, from Palekyhthrou, who was held with others in a house, was taken out at gunpoint and raped;
At Tanvu, Turkish soldiers tried to rape a 17-year-old schoolgirl. She resisted and was shot dead;
A woman from Gypsou told Dr H that 25 girls were kept by Turks at Marathouvouno as prostitutes.
Another witness said that his wife was raped in front of their children. Witness S told of 25 girls who complained to Turkish officers about being raped and were raped again by the officers. A man (name withheld) reported that his wife was stabbed in the neck while resisting rape. His grand-daughter, aged six, had been stabbed and killed by Turkish soldiers attempting to rape her.

A Red Cross witness said that in August 1974, while the island's telephones were still working, the Red Cross Society recieved calls from Palekyhthrou and Kaponti reporting rapes. The Red Cross also took care of 38 women released from Voni and Gypsou detention camps: all had been raped, some in front of their husbands and children. Others had been raped repeatedly, or put in houses frequented by Turkish soldiers.

These women were taken to Akrotiri hospital, in the British Sovereign Base Area, where they were treated. Three were found to be pregnant. Reference was also made to several abortions performed at the base.

Commission's verdict: By 12 votes to one the commission found "that the incidents of rape described in the cases referred to and regarded as established constitute 'inhuman treatment' and thus violations of Article 3 for which Turkey is responsible under the convention."[/quote]

[Yiannis]

Reading the above report i wouldnt be surprised if there was indeed such an incident Gabaston.
I would also espect u to delete ur comment on rape cause its not funny at all and guite insulting.

[2fan]

I'm all for the TC's to come in line with the GC's economically, and i'm sure they can easily do it given direct flights and international trade.

However, i ask the TC's, would the influx of money and people go to your head so much that the North will become a concrete jungle. Also, will GC land continued to be built on and sold at an explosive scale. How much incentive will there be for the TC's to unify.

I mean, will you be able to restrain yourselves with your new found prosperity and money? If the roles were reveresed, i would have to say that the GC's would not.

TC's thoughts please....

Nickp:

I think that we are going to have to implement some of the same building restrictions we are currently applying to Bodrum. 2 story maximum 3 story. Especially along the beaches. If not it's gonna be an arm pit. Having said that, who is going to legislate this? I hope bilateraly. What's GC doing about new development? Any insights? Could be a non bone of contention for either sides.

[RAFAELLA]

mass rape?

you know of all the things we've said about you, i cant remember one tc ever accusing you of rape.

i saw an interview with Sampson on channel 4. next to him sat an old lady in black, no teeth, hardly any hair, must have been about 96 years. She solemnly swore she was raped by soldiers. Now of all the beautiful young gc girls i really do find it difficult to believe that anyone would have raped this old lady. thats my opinion.

i took it as her only way of fighting back and her patriotic duty.

Saying that i accept that there are violations by any soldier, of whatever creed and colour, thats down to human nature. But i find it hard to believe that mass rape would have been part of Turkish invasion policy.

Ok now for the backlash, how many of you had their grannies raped?

Abortion in CY was illegal before 1974, after 1974 it became legal...for obvious reasons.

[gabaston]

i admit there will always be cases of rape and other misconduct in any form of army situation as was the case in viet-nam. Several young british soldiers in trianing have died under suspicious circumstances. I dont hower believe it is government or army policy to follow this course of action. All soldiers guilty of doing so should be most severely punished. I apologise for any offence caused to any members. I accept that there are rogues everywhere ready and willing to take advatage of situations. I and hope they get their due punishments.

i have asked members for their accounts of the invasion. i would like to know what actually happened. In london all of mt greek friends say their relatives left their homes prior to the turks coming.
i ask because i want a better understanding of it. TA is very quiet about their opperations. Can anybody give an indication of how many towns and villages evacuated before the arrival of the TA. All my gc friends say that all their relatives evacuated prior to the TA coming in the belief that they would return in a few weeks time. Evidently this did not happen everywhere.