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Re: TRNC Airspace

Postby vaughanwilliams » Wed Jan 06, 2010 2:18 pm

miltiades wrote:
Expatkiwi wrote:
miltiades wrote:Rather a part of a country , that of Cyprus , under the occupation of Turkey. You do talk a load of bullshit sometimes don't you. The UN , the EU , the entire international community DOES NOT see the pseudo state as a country apart from Turkey and Plonkers such as you mate.


One man can see more than multitudes.

Lets put it to the test mate.
Is there a "trnc" EMBASSY , not a bloody office but a full Consular Office where the Ambassador has to present his credentials to the government of the nation that an Embassy exists, anywhere in the world that is . The answer is NO .
Is there an Internationally accepted "trnc"passport . NO
Is there an international negotiable "trnc" currency .NO
Is the "trnc" a member of any International body . NO
What the hell are you inferring mate .

He implies, you infer.
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Postby vaughanwilliams » Wed Jan 06, 2010 3:29 pm

Is there a suggestion that TR warplanes are flying over RoC, or is this a complaint that they are flying over TRNC and therefore, in their opinion, over Cyprus (RoC) airspace? If so, they might as well complain when TR warships drop anchor outside Kyrenia and say that they are in RoC territorial waters. In other words, isn't this semantics?
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Postby Oracle » Wed Jan 06, 2010 4:01 pm

vaughanwilliams wrote:Is there a suggestion that TR warplanes are flying over RoC, or is this a complaint that they are flying over TRNC and therefore, in their opinion, over Cyprus (RoC) airspace? If so, they might as well complain when TR warships drop anchor outside Kyrenia and say that they are in RoC territorial waters. In other words, isn't this semantics?


No. It's legalities. And, as you know, the RoC occupied ports are also being used illegally.
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Postby vaughanwilliams » Wed Jan 06, 2010 4:11 pm

Oracle wrote:
vaughanwilliams wrote:Is there a suggestion that TR warplanes are flying over RoC, or is this a complaint that they are flying over TRNC and therefore, in their opinion, over Cyprus (RoC) airspace? If so, they might as well complain when TR warships drop anchor outside Kyrenia and say that they are in RoC territorial waters. In other words, isn't this semantics?


No. It's legalities. And, as you know, the RoC occupied ports are also being used illegally.

So let's get this straight -
TR warplanes are flying over RoC - very serious.
TR warplanes are flying over TRNC - no threat, get used to it.
Which one is it?
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Re: TRNC Airspace

Postby Expatkiwi » Thu Jan 07, 2010 2:38 am

vaughanwilliams wrote:
expatkiwi wrote:
One man can see more than multitudes.

Lets put it to the test mate.
Is there a "trnc" EMBASSY , not a bloody office but a full Consular Office where the Ambassador has to present his credentials to the government of the nation that an Embassy exists, anywhere in the world that is . The answer is NO .
Is there an Internationally accepted "trnc"passport . NO
Is there an international negotiable "trnc" currency .NO
Is the "trnc" a member of any International body . NO
What the hell are you inferring mate .

He implies, you infer.[/quote]

1. TRNC maintains an embassy in Ankara, and consulates-general in Mersin, and Instanbul. The TRNC ambassador to Turkey does present his letters of credence to the Turkish Head of State.

2. The TRNC passport is accepted in six countries.

3. As the TRNC uses the Turkish Lira, that currency is internationally accepted.

4. The TRNC is an observer member of the Organization of the Islamic Conference.
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Re: TRNC Airspace

Postby Get Real! » Thu Jan 07, 2010 3:10 am

Expatkiwi wrote:1. TRNC maintains an embassy in Ankara, and consulates-general in Mersin, and Instanbul. The TRNC ambassador to Turkey does present his letters of credence to the Turkish Head of State.

2. The TRNC passport is accepted in six countries.

3. As the TRNC uses the Turkish Lira, that currency is internationally accepted.

4. The TRNC is an observer member of the Organization of the Islamic Conference.

Here’s the most important achievement you can include in your “TRNC portfolio”…

UN RESOLUTION 541 (1983)

Considering therefore that the attempt to create a "Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus", is invalid

Deplores the declaration of the Turkish Cypriot authorities of the purported secession of part of the Republic of Cyprus

Considers the declaration referred to above as legally invalid and calls for its withdrawal;

Calls upon all States not to recognise any Cypriot state other than the Republic of Cyprus


http://www.un.int/cyprus/scr541.htm
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Re: TRNC Airspace

Postby miltiades » Thu Jan 07, 2010 6:03 am

Expatkiwi wrote:
vaughanwilliams wrote:
expatkiwi wrote:
One man can see more than multitudes.

Lets put it to the test mate.
Is there a "trnc" EMBASSY , not a bloody office but a full Consular Office where the Ambassador has to present his credentials to the government of the nation that an Embassy exists, anywhere in the world that is . The answer is NO .
Is there an Internationally accepted "trnc"passport . NO
Is there an international negotiable "trnc" currency .NO
Is the "trnc" a member of any International body . NO
What the hell are you inferring mate .

He implies, you infer.


1. TRNC maintains an embassy in Ankara, and consulates-general in Mersin, and Instanbul. The TRNC ambassador to Turkey does present his letters of credence to the Turkish Head of State.

2. The TRNC passport is accepted in six countries.

3. As the TRNC uses the Turkish Lira, that currency is internationally accepted.

4. The TRNC is an observer member of the Organization of the Islamic Conference.[/quote]


Very impressed to hear that the "trnc" , created by Turkey has ....an embassy in Ankara Mersin and Instanbul , how impressive indeed especially when the "trnc" ambassador had to present himself to the Turkish head of state. !!! :lol:
Which are these 6 countries that contrary to UN resolutions which clearly and categorically call the creation of the ":trnc" an illegal entity , recognise the "trnc" passports , don't tell me let me guess , would Turkey be amongst them ?
The Turkish lira is , agreed , internationally accepted because it is the currency of a nation recognized by the UN as a sovereign state , Turkey , but the "trnc" does not have either its own currency , its own banks or indeed any other credential that renders a nation as a legal entity.
Interesting to note the observer status , long may it continue observing because I doubt whether the observer will ever become a participant.
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Re: TRNC Airspace

Postby Expatkiwi » Thu Jan 07, 2010 7:30 am

miltiades wrote:
Expatkiwi wrote:
vaughanwilliams wrote:
expatkiwi wrote:One man can see more than multitudes.

Lets put it to the test mate.
Is there a "trnc" EMBASSY , not a bloody office but a full Consular Office where the Ambassador has to present his credentials to the government of the nation that an Embassy exists, anywhere in the world that is . The answer is NO .
Is there an Internationally accepted "trnc"passport . NO
Is there an international negotiable "trnc" currency .NO
Is the "trnc" a member of any International body . NO
What the hell are you inferring mate .


1. TRNC maintains an embassy in Ankara, and consulates-general in Mersin, and Instanbul. The TRNC ambassador to Turkey does present his letters of credence to the Turkish Head of State.

2. The TRNC passport is accepted in six countries.

3. As the TRNC uses the Turkish Lira, that currency is internationally accepted.

4. The TRNC is an observer member of the Organization of the Islamic Conference.



Very impressed to hear that the "trnc" , created by Turkey has ....an embassy in Ankara Mersin and Instanbul , how impressive indeed especially when the "trnc" ambassador had to present himself to the Turkish head of state. !!! :lol:
Which are these 6 countries that contrary to UN resolutions which clearly and categorically call the creation of the ":trnc" an illegal entity , recognise the "trnc" passports , don't tell me let me guess , would Turkey be amongst them ?
The Turkish lira is , agreed , internationally accepted because it is the currency of a nation recognized by the UN as a sovereign state , Turkey , but the "trnc" does not have either its own currency , its own banks or indeed any other credential that renders a nation as a legal entity.
Interesting to note the observer status , long may it continue observing because I doubt whether the observer will ever become a participant.


All ambassadors-Designate have to present their letters of credence to the host country's head of state in order to be officially regarded as Ambassador Plenepotentary and Extraordinary. The TRNC Ambassador to Turkey has that title. The RoCy Ambassador to Athens had to present his credentials to the President of Greece in order to be regarded as the Cypriot Ambassador to Greece.
The UK, USA, Pakistan, Azerbaijan, Turkey, and Syria currently officially accept TRNC passports with the relevant visas.
Since RoCy had dumped the pound for the euro, that means that RoCy no longer has a sovereign currency either.
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Re: TRNC Airspace

Postby Get Real! » Thu Jan 07, 2010 7:52 am

Expatkiwi wrote:All ambassadors-Designate have to present their letters of credence to the host country's head of state in order to be officially regarded as Ambassador Plenepotentary and Extraordinary. The TRNC Ambassador to Turkey has that title. The RoCy Ambassador to Athens had to present his credentials to the President of Greece in order to be regarded as the Cypriot Ambassador to Greece.
The UK, USA, Pakistan, Azerbaijan, Turkey, and Syria currently officially accept TRNC passports with the relevant visas.
Since RoCy had dumped the pound for the euro, that means that RoCy no longer has a sovereign currency either.

:? And your point being what exactly besides boring us to death with this bizarre mix of bollocks? :lol:
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Re: TRNC Airspace

Postby boomerang » Thu Jan 07, 2010 3:41 pm

Expatkiwi wrote:
miltiades wrote:
Expatkiwi wrote:
vaughanwilliams wrote:
expatkiwi wrote:One man can see more than multitudes.

Lets put it to the test mate.
Is there a "trnc" EMBASSY , not a bloody office but a full Consular Office where the Ambassador has to present his credentials to the government of the nation that an Embassy exists, anywhere in the world that is . The answer is NO .
Is there an Internationally accepted "trnc"passport . NO
Is there an international negotiable "trnc" currency .NO
Is the "trnc" a member of any International body . NO
What the hell are you inferring mate .


1. TRNC maintains an embassy in Ankara, and consulates-general in Mersin, and Instanbul. The TRNC ambassador to Turkey does present his letters of credence to the Turkish Head of State.

2. The TRNC passport is accepted in six countries.

3. As the TRNC uses the Turkish Lira, that currency is internationally accepted.

4. The TRNC is an observer member of the Organization of the Islamic Conference.



Very impressed to hear that the "trnc" , created by Turkey has ....an embassy in Ankara Mersin and Instanbul , how impressive indeed especially when the "trnc" ambassador had to present himself to the Turkish head of state. !!! :lol:
Which are these 6 countries that contrary to UN resolutions which clearly and categorically call the creation of the ":trnc" an illegal entity , recognise the "trnc" passports , don't tell me let me guess , would Turkey be amongst them ?
The Turkish lira is , agreed , internationally accepted because it is the currency of a nation recognized by the UN as a sovereign state , Turkey , but the "trnc" does not have either its own currency , its own banks or indeed any other credential that renders a nation as a legal entity.
Interesting to note the observer status , long may it continue observing because I doubt whether the observer will ever become a participant.


All ambassadors-Designate have to present their letters of credence to the host country's head of state in order to be officially regarded as Ambassador Plenepotentary and Extraordinary. The TRNC Ambassador to Turkey has that title. The RoCy Ambassador to Athens had to present his credentials to the President of Greece in order to be regarded as the Cypriot Ambassador to Greece.
The UK, USA, Pakistan, Azerbaijan, Turkey, and Syria currently officially accept TRNC passports with the relevant visas.
Since RoCy had dumped the pound for the euro, that means that RoCy no longer has a sovereign currency either.


why do you have to drag down the kiwis with your stupidity...when are you gonna realise the turkish ambassador to the occupied areas is the governor of the occupied areas?... :lol:
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