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[DT.]

well when it comes down to it it has to be voted by both sides to be accepted and putting a plan of partition in any form will be rejected and anyone suprised is an idiot.

its like if there is a plan for turkey go home and totally in our favour of course tcs will reject it..

it has to be acceptable to both sides..

so the president really has no say even if it is for crowd as you say. its ultimatly down to the people.. he can try influence gcs as much as he wants if it comes down to that and he really is talking for partition.. but if he really was im sure official partition would of happened ages ago if christophias was ok with that..

rumours as chjristophias says it isand to ignore it.

So if you had the option of agreeing a 2 state solution under BBF supported by your leader the UN EU Greece or partition you would not hesitate to reject the plan?

why would i accept partition? i dont care who says its a good idea im going to REJECT it everytime.. but hey im just one voter..

just like you i am sure would reject re unifying the island even if all the turkish leaders said it was a good idea and backed by them.

NO everytime

You obviously dont know how things work if the USA UK and EU say they will recognize the TRNC if you do not accept a plan negotiated by your leader would you still go ahead and reject it?

What you just described is impossible. Proven many times before. Would you like to have a go at this merry go round again? Quit talking crap VP, you know the US and the EU cannot recognise the occupied areas.

[Viewpoint]

what chances are there of any country doing that? none but your right if usa does then everyone else will.. so i guess usa is saving us from official two states in cyprus

If the GCs play the game wrong time after time this scenerio with surely look GCs in the face and this time around could be your ultimatum.

[Viewpoint]

well when it comes down to it it has to be voted by both sides to be accepted and putting a plan of partition in any form will be rejected and anyone suprised is an idiot.

its like if there is a plan for turkey go home and totally in our favour of course tcs will reject it..

it has to be acceptable to both sides..

so the president really has no say even if it is for crowd as you say. its ultimatly down to the people.. he can try influence gcs as much as he wants if it comes down to that and he really is talking for partition.. but if he really was im sure official partition would of happened ages ago if christophias was ok with that..

rumours as chjristophias says it isand to ignore it.

So if you had the option of agreeing a 2 state solution under BBF supported by your leader the UN EU Greece or partition you would not hesitate to reject the plan?

why would i accept partition? i dont care who says its a good idea im going to REJECT it everytime.. but hey im just one voter..

just like you i am sure would reject re unifying the island even if all the turkish leaders said it was a good idea and backed by them.

NO everytime

You obviously dont know how things work if the USA UK and EU say they will recognize the TRNC if you do not accept a plan negotiated by your leader would you still go ahead and reject it?

What you just described is impossible. Proven many times before. Would you like to have a go at this merry go round again? Quit talking crap VP, you know the US and the EU cannot recognise the occupied areas.

Play your rejection hand one more time and see what evolves are you willing to chance it? never say never.

[kurupetos]

Having one of these doesn't qualify you as an aviation authority. You need to be a country first.

As far as I know, the TRNC IS a country.

No, it's a cuntry.

[Kikapu]

arrogant as in wont give in to demands of two states? you will find its turkey being arrogant and stupid

Palio are you aware that BBF is formed of 2 states?

2 states as in Texas and Arizona not as in France and Germany.

Correct.

But VP, I gave you a plan like that, and you have rejected it because it was a True Federation with True Democracy with EU Principles with no possibility of seceding from the union because both states would be tied at the hip to each other with the Federal Government looking over them.!

Which other ways of Texas and Arizona True Federal systems do you know that violates the above principles.!

Have you changed your mind now, if so, welcome aboard.!

[Viewpoint]

No Kikapu there are many versions Federated states one of them being BBF with political equality, your one was a disguise for the eventual capitulation of TCs.

[Kikapu]

No Kikapu there are many versions Federated states one of them being BBF with political equality, your one was a disguise for the eventual capitulation of TCs.

You are wrong with your above statement as always, but lets not go there right now because I want to hear from you.

Now, lets hear these many different Federated States that resemble Federated states like Texas and Arizona in a True Democracy with a Federal Government and see if it's anything different than what I proposed. Give us your versions that complies with the EU Principles, because that's where we are, in the EU.

[Get Real!]

If the GCs play the game wrong time after time this scenerio with surely look GCs in the face and this time around could be your ultimatum.

There’s only one wrong move that the Republic can ever make and that would be for her to sign away her recognition and status herself in exchange for a “deal” with the devil (the treasonous “Turkish Cypriots”) and that’s where myself and tens of thousands of others who cannot be fooled, come in to ensure that never happens!

For 35 years you’ve been salivating blood from your Ottoman fangs for the Republic to make the fatal mistake so that the Turkish beast will be unleashed on the island and devour the indigenous Cypriots into oblivion, but the millenniums old ancient Choirokitian spirit cannot be defeated…

[Viewpoint]

If the GCs play the game wrong time after time this scenerio with surely look GCs in the face and this time around could be your ultimatum.

There’s only one wrong move that the Republic can ever make and that would be for her to sign away her recognition and status herself in exchange for a “deal” with the devil (the treasonous “Turkish Cypriots”) and that’s where myself and tens of thousands of others who cannot be fooled, come in to ensure that never happens!

For 35 years you’ve been salivating blood from your Ottoman fangs for the Republic to make the fatal mistake so that the Turkish beast will be unleashed on the island and devour the indigenous Cypriots into oblivion, but the millenniums old ancient Choirokitian spirit cannot be defeated…

Play your rejection card once again...the ball is rolling thanks to your leader and a referendum will appear where GCs cannot say no or rejection of the talks by the GCs will once again put the GCs in great risk..feel free to tempt fate.

[Viewpoint]

No Kikapu there are many versions Federated states one of them being BBF with political equality, your one was a disguise for the eventual capitulation of TCs.

You are wrong with your above statement as always, but lets not go there right now because I want to hear from you.

Now, lets hear these many different Federated States that resemble Federated states like Texas and Arizona in a True Democracy with a Federal Government and see if it's anything different than what I proposed. Give us your versions that complies with the EU Principles, because that's where we are, in the EU.

The EU backed the AP as a BBF solution, need I say more, nothing is black and white and federal style solutions can be moulded into a structure that can be classed as BBF with political equality.

I have proposed my solution many times and will not repeat it over and over go look for it and try and undersand it this time.