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[cyprusgrump]

NICOSIA: The tough new smoking rules have cut patronage at Cyprus nightclubs by 40%, a spokesman for the trade group representing them said.

The spokesman told CyBC radio that the ban would be bad for entertainment centres like clubs and it would get worse. He added that whole face of night time entertainment in Cyprus was set to change.

Police spokesman Michaelis Katsounotos said that cluband restaurant owners had shown a high level of responsibility and that as a result there had been few complaints.

He said that there had been 648 checks that resulted in only 49 smoking infringements

Remarkable. On 648 occasions in four or five days, CY police had nothing better to than visit night-clubs to check up on this alleged smoking ban.

Police in the UK would do exactly the same - and we have drug dealers, pimps, burgalries, car theft, knives, guns and much more!

Rubbish.

The UK government introduced over 1,200 'enforcers' at a cost of £30M to police the no smoking ban. Officials were given permission to secretly film in pubs and elsewhere.

[cyprusgrump]

a few years ago, the OZ pubs faced the same problem...not because of prices but for lack of customers as the pub tradition was dying...to breath new air into these venues and the government losing out on revenue they came up with a new scheme...lets introduce pokies into these venues...now they are packed...everyone happy but for the poor addicted souls losing their money...

I can see the UK going sown this track...

I think you are spot on boomerang. Pubs need to do different things to tempt people in. Karaoke did it, darts did it, now they need to try different things and introduce something. I mentioned this earlier but got hammered for it.

People love playing Wii, XBox and PS3 - why not do some kind of competition or something? Try it and see. It maybe fun!

there is no revenue from these gaming machines....pubs need real revenue...

Think about this though and this is just one example...

Lets say there was a Fifa Pub League ok and my local the Red Lion particapted. A team consists of 6 players. So when a pub team takes on another pub team there would be 10 games per night. 20 minutes a game say. Thats 200 minutes of game time and 200 minutes of drinking etc. 12 players supping beer etc for 3 hours plus.

Except that instead of standing in the rain to have a cigarette between games you could just stay at home and play...?

Unless all players of these games are non-smokers?

[Z4]

NICOSIA: The tough new smoking rules have cut patronage at Cyprus nightclubs by 40%, a spokesman for the trade group representing them said.

The spokesman told CyBC radio that the ban would be bad for entertainment centres like clubs and it would get worse. He added that whole face of night time entertainment in Cyprus was set to change.

Police spokesman Michaelis Katsounotos said that cluband restaurant owners had shown a high level of responsibility and that as a result there had been few complaints.

He said that there had been 648 checks that resulted in only 49 smoking infringements

Remarkable. On 648 occasions in four or five days, CY police had nothing better to than visit night-clubs to check up on this alleged smoking ban.

Police in the UK would do exactly the same - and we have drug dealers, pimps, burgalries, car theft, knives, guns and much more!

Rubbish.

The UK government introduced over 1,200 'enforcers' at a cost of £30M to police the no smoking ban. Officials were given permission to secretly film in pubs and elsewhere.

Please explain why it happend then in my local?

[Z4]

a few years ago, the OZ pubs faced the same problem...not because of prices but for lack of customers as the pub tradition was dying...to breath new air into these venues and the government losing out on revenue they came up with a new scheme...lets introduce pokies into these venues...now they are packed...everyone happy but for the poor addicted souls losing their money...

I can see the UK going sown this track...

I think you are spot on boomerang. Pubs need to do different things to tempt people in. Karaoke did it, darts did it, now they need to try different things and introduce something. I mentioned this earlier but got hammered for it.

People love playing Wii, XBox and PS3 - why not do some kind of competition or something? Try it and see. It maybe fun!

there is no revenue from these gaming machines....pubs need real revenue...

Think about this though and this is just one example...

Lets say there was a Fifa Pub League ok and my local the Red Lion particapted. A team consists of 6 players. So when a pub team takes on another pub team there would be 10 games per night. 20 minutes a game say. Thats 200 minutes of game time and 200 minutes of drinking etc. 12 players supping beer etc for 3 hours plus.

Except that instead of standing in the rain to have a cigarette between games you could just stay at home and play...?

.....and vwala! The penny is starting to drop!

[cyprusgrump]

a few years ago, the OZ pubs faced the same problem...not because of prices but for lack of customers as the pub tradition was dying...to breath new air into these venues and the government losing out on revenue they came up with a new scheme...lets introduce pokies into these venues...now they are packed...everyone happy but for the poor addicted souls losing their money...

I can see the UK going sown this track...

I think you are spot on boomerang. Pubs need to do different things to tempt people in. Karaoke did it, darts did it, now they need to try different things and introduce something. I mentioned this earlier but got hammered for it.

People love playing Wii, XBox and PS3 - why not do some kind of competition or something? Try it and see. It maybe fun!

there is no revenue from these gaming machines....pubs need real revenue...

Think about this though and this is just one example...

Lets say there was a Fifa Pub League ok and my local the Red Lion particapted. A team consists of 6 players. So when a pub team takes on another pub team there would be 10 games per night. 20 minutes a game say. Thats 200 minutes of game time and 200 minutes of drinking etc. 12 players supping beer etc for 3 hours plus.

Except that instead of standing in the rain to have a cigarette between games you could just stay at home and play...?

.....and vwala! The penny is starting to drop!

I presume you mean voila?

No, the penny certainly isn't dropping with you is it...?

You argue one minute that pubs are only closing because booze is so expensive and people are buying from the supermarket and drinking it at home...

Then the next minute you argue that the very couch potatoes that play on-line games at home (presumably while drinking supermarket booze and smoking) will venture to the pub to play the same games?

Seems like a business opportunity that would match your level of business acumen!

I thought one of the densest materials was Depleted Uranium but it looks like Sponge Headium runs it a close second!

[paliometoxo]

looks like the ban is effecting cyprus to the businesses..

BUSINESSES yesterday reported an alleged 40 per cent drop in revenue following the total smoking ban on January 1.

The reduction came as no surprise to the Association of Bar Owners which said it had predicted its members’ demise and warned of worse to come.

“Nightclubs experienced what we’ve been saying all along,” said Association head Fanos Leventis.

“There was a 40 per cent reduction on Saturday which is a very large number when you take into account the fact that the students [who are studying overseas] haven’t left yet and it’s also the holiday season. This is the first message of what will follow.”

Leventis said the drop in numbers had nothing to do with the current financial crisis as the comparisons had included other recent Saturdays.

“We’ll wait to see what will happen in the next few days,” he said.

Police said a total 648 inspections had been carried out islandwide starting 7am on January 2 to 7am yesterday. Proprietors and smokers were given a one-day grace period on January 1.

“A total 83 people were reported including 49 smokers and 34 proprietors,” said a police spokesman.

The least law abiding smokers and club owners were reported in Limassol while Morphou trumped all six districts with zero violations.

Breaking down the statistics the officer said a total 59 inspections had been carried out in Nicosia with a reported three violations, including two smokers and one proprietor; 129 inspections were carried out in Limassol with 76 violations including 46 smokers and 30 proprietors; Larnaca had 122 inspections with two violations including one smoker and one proprietor; Paphos had 56 inspections with one violation made by a proprietor; there were 132 inspections in the Famagusta district with one violation made by a proprietor; and finally in Morphou 150 inspections were carried out with zero violations reported.

Police spokesman Michalis Katsounotos said police were encouraged by the compliance shown by the public.

“We didn’t expect such respect for the new law and we welcome it… The police force is confident Cypriots can easily change mentality,” he said.

Katsounotos also denied criticisms that a blind eye was being turned regarding certain districts and clubs.

“All one has to do is go for a walk and you can easily witness that there is full compliance with the law,” he said.

But Leventis said a number of spots would stay under the radar simply because they were less in the public eye.

“It is practically impossible to check all places that are banned from smoking. It would take thousands of people to keep checks on them. The more popular spots will pay the price as they act as window dressing for the public and everyone will think the law is being implemented,” he said.

Leventis also said the face of entertainment as we knew it would permanently change in Cyprus.

“Imagine a place filled with 200 people and suddenly amidst the fun and good atmosphere every 10 minutes it empties out as 100 to 150 people go out to smoke,” he said.

The bar owner predicted people would no longer choose to go out in Cyprus and would instead save up and go abroad where they could have a good time “wholeheartedly and get what they want”. Foreigners would also stay away from the island for the same reason, he said. “And our industry will wither,” he warned.

[FragnaticDeath]

“Imagine a place filled with 200 people and suddenly amidst the fun and good atmosphere every 10 minutes it empties out as 100 to 150 people go out to smoke,” he said.


oh my. Look! 2:1 and 3:1 ratio for smokers to non-smokers. Now thats ridiculus. This mentality of Cypriots to smoke just to be cool is so annoying. And a 40% decrease in clubs? now thats hilarious lol. Now there will be more space for people who don't smoke to dance. So annoying entering in a club and watching 60% of them standing with a drink in 1 hand and with the other a smoke is just plain annoying

[paliometoxo]

i dont think its to be cool anymore frantic when you are like 12 years old its to be cool then you get addicted and it becomes something most cant live without

they will protest its losing them a lot of money

[Z4]

a few years ago, the OZ pubs faced the same problem...not because of prices but for lack of customers as the pub tradition was dying...to breath new air into these venues and the government losing out on revenue they came up with a new scheme...lets introduce pokies into these venues...now they are packed...everyone happy but for the poor addicted souls losing their money...

I can see the UK going sown this track...

I think you are spot on boomerang. Pubs need to do different things to tempt people in. Karaoke did it, darts did it, now they need to try different things and introduce something. I mentioned this earlier but got hammered for it.

People love playing Wii, XBox and PS3 - why not do some kind of competition or something? Try it and see. It maybe fun!

there is no revenue from these gaming machines....pubs need real revenue...

Think about this though and this is just one example...

Lets say there was a Fifa Pub League ok and my local the Red Lion particapted. A team consists of 6 players. So when a pub team takes on another pub team there would be 10 games per night. 20 minutes a game say. Thats 200 minutes of game time and 200 minutes of drinking etc. 12 players supping beer etc for 3 hours plus.

Except that instead of standing in the rain to have a cigarette between games you could just stay at home and play...?

.....and vwala! The penny is starting to drop!

I presume you mean voila?

No, the penny certainly isn't dropping with you is it...?

You argue one minute that pubs are only closing because booze is so expensive and people are buying from the supermarket and drinking it at home...

Then the next minute you argue that the very couch potatoes that play on-line games at home (presumably while drinking supermarket booze and smoking) will venture to the pub to play the same games?

Seems like a business opportunity that would match your level of business acumen!

I thought one of the densest materials was Depleted Uranium but it looks like Sponge Headium runs it a close second!

Fair play you are boring!

vwala!

[Z4]

i dont think its to be cool anymore frantic when you are like 12 years old its to be cool then you get addicted and it becomes something most cant live without

they will protest its losing them a lot of money

What do you reckon about PS3 games in bars and pubs?