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[Z4]

WTF are you on about Z4? You have been lambasting us poor smokers for the last couple of weeks and now you are complaining about the price of a packet of fags!

Make your bloody mind up!

You need to ask Grump. He thinks thats pubs are closing here because of the smoking ban.

[cyprusgrump]

WTF are you on about Z4? You have been lambasting us poor smokers for the last couple of weeks and now you are complaining about the price of a packet of fags!

Make your bloody mind up!

You need to ask Grump. He thinks thats pubs are closing here because of the smoking ban.

You need to see a psychiatrist!

[RichardB]

The smoking ban has definately affected the pub trade - as have the prices

Take me as an example - I'm not a big drinker but i used to go to my local twice a week - Monday for footie (as the misssus watches all the soaps and its double corrie etc) so I'd go about 7.30 and get home around 10ish - I'd have maybe 4 pints , a couple of quid on the bandit , bag of nuts etc and maybe spend around £20

Then I'd go down with my lad on a friday or Saturday for a couple of hours and spend around £20 again - not a lot I know

But since the smoking ban If I am honest I have been down maybe 10 times Maximum

So I've gone from spending around £2000 a year in my local to spending around £200 a year Max

It doesnt take a great many people like me to have a big effect on sales and I wasn't a regular like others who have stopped going

[CBBB]

WTF are you on about Z4? You have been lambasting us poor smokers for the last couple of weeks and now you are complaining about the price of a packet of fags!

Make your bloody mind up!

You need to ask Grump. He thinks thats pubs are closing here because of the smoking ban.

They are closing because I returned to Cyprus 4 years ago, business has gone down hill ever since!

[Z4]

i was at the huge pub near London bridge 2 weeks ago... inside was packed but they also had a lot of heated space outside under a big tent... but only few people were there. So dont blame it on smoking ban... me being non smoker, i actually sat outside because it was so warm and cozy.

Not all pubs have the space to provide facilities for smokers. I was in London in November and none of the pubs we visited had any option but to stand outside on the pavement if you wanted to smoke. That was fine in November (it was quite mild) but not so nice if it is snowing outside...

The Smoking Ban has definately affected pub trade: -

The financial analysts Goldman Sachs - hardly a "pro smoking organisation'' - recently stated that the smoking ban has reduced average pub profits by 10%. Scottish & Newcastle, the UK's largest brewery estimated a 8% fall in beer sales in January and since then beers sales in the UK have fallen to their lowest level since the Great Depression. But most devastating to the ASH version of events are the statistics for pub closures which accelerated dramatically in 2007. The trade journal The Morning Advertiser blamed this squarely on "the savage impact of the smoking ban and spiralling costs" and the figures require little comment:

2005: 2 a week

2006: 4 a week

2007: 27 a week

This seven-fold increase in pub closures is unprecedented in recent British history and although the smoking ban is not the industry's only enemy, the evidence that it has been severely damaged by the smoke-free legislation is now indisputable.

Source

The figure is now more like 50 pubs a week.

Will you do me a favour please?

Probably not. But I can't stop you from asking...

Please conduct a survey with smokers and ask how much they spend at the pub now and a what they spent at the pub 5 years ago. Then ask them if they could smoke at the pub (knowing they would have to shell out £3.50 a pint) would they visit more or would they prefer to stay at home.

The numbers I quoted came from the same source you used in your OP.

Here

How come it is a reliable source when you quote it but not when I do it?

Silly boy!

Can't see a survey old boy

[Z4]

WTF are you on about Z4? You have been lambasting us poor smokers for the last couple of weeks and now you are complaining about the price of a packet of fags!

Make your bloody mind up!

You need to ask Grump. He thinks thats pubs are closing here because of the smoking ban.

They are closing because I returned to Cyprus 4 years ago, business has gone down hill ever since!

[CBBB]

i was at the huge pub near London bridge 2 weeks ago... inside was packed but they also had a lot of heated space outside under a big tent... but only few people were there. So dont blame it on smoking ban... me being non smoker, i actually sat outside because it was so warm and cozy.

Not all pubs have the space to provide facilities for smokers. I was in London in November and none of the pubs we visited had any option but to stand outside on the pavement if you wanted to smoke. That was fine in November (it was quite mild) but not so nice if it is snowing outside...

The Smoking Ban has definately affected pub trade: -

The financial analysts Goldman Sachs - hardly a "pro smoking organisation'' - recently stated that the smoking ban has reduced average pub profits by 10%. Scottish & Newcastle, the UK's largest brewery estimated a 8% fall in beer sales in January and since then beers sales in the UK have fallen to their lowest level since the Great Depression. But most devastating to the ASH version of events are the statistics for pub closures which accelerated dramatically in 2007. The trade journal The Morning Advertiser blamed this squarely on "the savage impact of the smoking ban and spiralling costs" and the figures require little comment:

2005: 2 a week

2006: 4 a week

2007: 27 a week

This seven-fold increase in pub closures is unprecedented in recent British history and although the smoking ban is not the industry's only enemy, the evidence that it has been severely damaged by the smoke-free legislation is now indisputable.

Source

The figure is now more like 50 pubs a week.

Will you do me a favour please?

Probably not. But I can't stop you from asking...

Please conduct a survey with smokers and ask how much they spend at the pub now and a what they spent at the pub 5 years ago. Then ask them if they could smoke at the pub (knowing they would have to shell out £3.50 a pint) would they visit more or would they prefer to stay at home.

The numbers I quoted came from the same source you used in your OP.

Here

How come it is a reliable source when you quote it but not when I do it?

Silly boy!

Can't see a survey old boy

Are you two married to each other?

[Z4]

The smoking ban has definately affected the pub trade - as have the prices

Take me as an example - I'm not a big drinker but i used to go to my local twice a week - Monday for footie (as the misssus watches all the soaps and its double corrie etc) so I'd go about 7.30 and get home around 10ish - I'd have maybe 4 pints , a couple of quid on the bandit , bag of nuts etc and maybe spend around £20

Then I'd go down with my lad on a friday or Saturday for a couple of hours and spend around £20 again - not a lot I know

But since the smoking ban If I am honest I have been down maybe 10 times Maximum

So I've gone from spending around £2000 a year in my local to spending around £200 a year Max

It doesnt take a great many people like me to have a big effect on sales and I wasn't a regular like others who have stopped going

Fair enough.....what about in the summer though when it's nice and hot and you could (if you have one) sit in the beer garden?

[Z4]

i was at the huge pub near London bridge 2 weeks ago... inside was packed but they also had a lot of heated space outside under a big tent... but only few people were there. So dont blame it on smoking ban... me being non smoker, i actually sat outside because it was so warm and cozy.

Not all pubs have the space to provide facilities for smokers. I was in London in November and none of the pubs we visited had any option but to stand outside on the pavement if you wanted to smoke. That was fine in November (it was quite mild) but not so nice if it is snowing outside...

The Smoking Ban has definately affected pub trade: -

The financial analysts Goldman Sachs - hardly a "pro smoking organisation'' - recently stated that the smoking ban has reduced average pub profits by 10%. Scottish & Newcastle, the UK's largest brewery estimated a 8% fall in beer sales in January and since then beers sales in the UK have fallen to their lowest level since the Great Depression. But most devastating to the ASH version of events are the statistics for pub closures which accelerated dramatically in 2007. The trade journal The Morning Advertiser blamed this squarely on "the savage impact of the smoking ban and spiralling costs" and the figures require little comment:

2005: 2 a week

2006: 4 a week

2007: 27 a week

This seven-fold increase in pub closures is unprecedented in recent British history and although the smoking ban is not the industry's only enemy, the evidence that it has been severely damaged by the smoke-free legislation is now indisputable.

Source

The figure is now more like 50 pubs a week.

Will you do me a favour please?

Probably not. But I can't stop you from asking...

Please conduct a survey with smokers and ask how much they spend at the pub now and a what they spent at the pub 5 years ago. Then ask them if they could smoke at the pub (knowing they would have to shell out £3.50 a pint) would they visit more or would they prefer to stay at home.

The numbers I quoted came from the same source you used in your OP.

Here

How come it is a reliable source when you quote it but not when I do it?

Silly boy!

Can't see a survey old boy

Are you two married to each other?

[cyprusgrump]

i was at the huge pub near London bridge 2 weeks ago... inside was packed but they also had a lot of heated space outside under a big tent... but only few people were there. So dont blame it on smoking ban... me being non smoker, i actually sat outside because it was so warm and cozy.

Not all pubs have the space to provide facilities for smokers. I was in London in November and none of the pubs we visited had any option but to stand outside on the pavement if you wanted to smoke. That was fine in November (it was quite mild) but not so nice if it is snowing outside...

The Smoking Ban has definately affected pub trade: -

The financial analysts Goldman Sachs - hardly a "pro smoking organisation'' - recently stated that the smoking ban has reduced average pub profits by 10%. Scottish & Newcastle, the UK's largest brewery estimated a 8% fall in beer sales in January and since then beers sales in the UK have fallen to their lowest level since the Great Depression. But most devastating to the ASH version of events are the statistics for pub closures which accelerated dramatically in 2007. The trade journal The Morning Advertiser blamed this squarely on "the savage impact of the smoking ban and spiralling costs" and the figures require little comment:

2005: 2 a week

2006: 4 a week

2007: 27 a week

This seven-fold increase in pub closures is unprecedented in recent British history and although the smoking ban is not the industry's only enemy, the evidence that it has been severely damaged by the smoke-free legislation is now indisputable.

Source

The figure is now more like 50 pubs a week.

Will you do me a favour please?

Probably not. But I can't stop you from asking...

Please conduct a survey with smokers and ask how much they spend at the pub now and a what they spent at the pub 5 years ago. Then ask them if they could smoke at the pub (knowing they would have to shell out £3.50 a pint) would they visit more or would they prefer to stay at home.

The numbers I quoted came from the same source you used in your OP.

Here

How come it is a reliable source when you quote it but not when I do it?

Silly boy!

Can't see a survey old boy

You have to click on the bit where is says here- I realise that is a bit complex for you.

Click here for a link to the source of my statistics!

You'll see it is the same publication that you have based your thread on.