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Postby Z4 » Tue Jan 05, 2010 1:53 pm

The Government drove this country into recession and are driving into a further recession. When will they understand that UK peopl have no money to spend on luxury items.....like a pint of beer and 20 fags!!!
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Postby paliometoxo » Tue Jan 05, 2010 1:54 pm

what a ripp! i wouldent pay for that much.. 4 euros is bad enough.. but lots of people drive into the turkish side and pay 2 euros for a pack.. in the turkish side you can pay 3 euros and get a lighter aswell
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Postby paliometoxo » Tue Jan 05, 2010 1:56 pm

Z4 wrote:The Government drove this country into recession and are driving into a further recession. When will they understand that UK peopl have no money to spend on luxury items.....like a pint of beer and 20 fags!!!


but some items no matter how expenssive some people will still pay it so they can keep putting up prices and get away with it and make so much money
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Postby Z4 » Tue Jan 05, 2010 3:17 pm

paliometoxo wrote:
Z4 wrote:The Government drove this country into recession and are driving into a further recession. When will they understand that UK peopl have no money to spend on luxury items.....like a pint of beer and 20 fags!!!


but some items no matter how expenssive some people will still pay it so they can keep putting up prices and get away with it and make so much money


Some can't that's why pubs are finding it tough at the moment
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Postby cyprusgrump » Tue Jan 05, 2010 3:24 pm

Raymanoff wrote:i was at the huge pub near London bridge 2 weeks ago... inside was packed but they also had a lot of heated space outside under a big tent... but only few people were there. So dont blame it on smoking ban... me being non smoker, i actually sat outside because it was so warm and cozy.


Not all pubs have the space to provide facilities for smokers. I was in London in November and none of the pubs we visited had any option but to stand outside on the pavement if you wanted to smoke. That was fine in November (it was quite mild) but not so nice if it is snowing outside...

The Smoking Ban has definately affected pub trade: -

The financial analysts Goldman Sachs - hardly a "pro smoking organisation'' - recently stated that the smoking ban has reduced average pub profits by 10%. Scottish & Newcastle, the UK's largest brewery estimated a 8% fall in beer sales in January and since then beers sales in the UK have fallen to their lowest level since the Great Depression. But most devastating to the ASH version of events are the statistics for pub closures which accelerated dramatically in 2007. The trade journal The Morning Advertiser blamed this squarely on "the savage impact of the smoking ban and spiralling costs" and the figures require little comment:

2005: 2 a week

2006: 4 a week

2007: 27 a week

This seven-fold increase in pub closures is unprecedented in recent British history and although the smoking ban is not the industry's only enemy, the evidence that it has been severely damaged by the smoke-free legislation is now indisputable.


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The figure is now more like 50 pubs a week.
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Postby Z4 » Tue Jan 05, 2010 3:28 pm

cyprusgrump wrote:
Raymanoff wrote:i was at the huge pub near London bridge 2 weeks ago... inside was packed but they also had a lot of heated space outside under a big tent... but only few people were there. So dont blame it on smoking ban... me being non smoker, i actually sat outside because it was so warm and cozy.


Not all pubs have the space to provide facilities for smokers. I was in London in November and none of the pubs we visited had any option but to stand outside on the pavement if you wanted to smoke. That was fine in November (it was quite mild) but not so nice if it is snowing outside...

The Smoking Ban has definately affected pub trade: -

The financial analysts Goldman Sachs - hardly a "pro smoking organisation'' - recently stated that the smoking ban has reduced average pub profits by 10%. Scottish & Newcastle, the UK's largest brewery estimated a 8% fall in beer sales in January and since then beers sales in the UK have fallen to their lowest level since the Great Depression. But most devastating to the ASH version of events are the statistics for pub closures which accelerated dramatically in 2007. The trade journal The Morning Advertiser blamed this squarely on "the savage impact of the smoking ban and spiralling costs" and the figures require little comment:

2005: 2 a week

2006: 4 a week

2007: 27 a week

This seven-fold increase in pub closures is unprecedented in recent British history and although the smoking ban is not the industry's only enemy, the evidence that it has been severely damaged by the smoke-free legislation is now indisputable.


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The figure is now more like 50 pubs a week.


Will you do me a favour please?
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Postby cyprusgrump » Tue Jan 05, 2010 3:29 pm

Z4 wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Raymanoff wrote:i was at the huge pub near London bridge 2 weeks ago... inside was packed but they also had a lot of heated space outside under a big tent... but only few people were there. So dont blame it on smoking ban... me being non smoker, i actually sat outside because it was so warm and cozy.


Not all pubs have the space to provide facilities for smokers. I was in London in November and none of the pubs we visited had any option but to stand outside on the pavement if you wanted to smoke. That was fine in November (it was quite mild) but not so nice if it is snowing outside...

The Smoking Ban has definately affected pub trade: -

The financial analysts Goldman Sachs - hardly a "pro smoking organisation'' - recently stated that the smoking ban has reduced average pub profits by 10%. Scottish & Newcastle, the UK's largest brewery estimated a 8% fall in beer sales in January and since then beers sales in the UK have fallen to their lowest level since the Great Depression. But most devastating to the ASH version of events are the statistics for pub closures which accelerated dramatically in 2007. The trade journal The Morning Advertiser blamed this squarely on "the savage impact of the smoking ban and spiralling costs" and the figures require little comment:

2005: 2 a week

2006: 4 a week

2007: 27 a week

This seven-fold increase in pub closures is unprecedented in recent British history and although the smoking ban is not the industry's only enemy, the evidence that it has been severely damaged by the smoke-free legislation is now indisputable.


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The figure is now more like 50 pubs a week.


Will you do me a favour please?


Probably not. But I can't stop you from asking... :roll:
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Postby Z4 » Tue Jan 05, 2010 3:35 pm

cyprusgrump wrote:
Z4 wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Raymanoff wrote:i was at the huge pub near London bridge 2 weeks ago... inside was packed but they also had a lot of heated space outside under a big tent... but only few people were there. So dont blame it on smoking ban... me being non smoker, i actually sat outside because it was so warm and cozy.


Not all pubs have the space to provide facilities for smokers. I was in London in November and none of the pubs we visited had any option but to stand outside on the pavement if you wanted to smoke. That was fine in November (it was quite mild) but not so nice if it is snowing outside...

The Smoking Ban has definately affected pub trade: -

The financial analysts Goldman Sachs - hardly a "pro smoking organisation'' - recently stated that the smoking ban has reduced average pub profits by 10%. Scottish & Newcastle, the UK's largest brewery estimated a 8% fall in beer sales in January and since then beers sales in the UK have fallen to their lowest level since the Great Depression. But most devastating to the ASH version of events are the statistics for pub closures which accelerated dramatically in 2007. The trade journal The Morning Advertiser blamed this squarely on "the savage impact of the smoking ban and spiralling costs" and the figures require little comment:

2005: 2 a week

2006: 4 a week

2007: 27 a week

This seven-fold increase in pub closures is unprecedented in recent British history and although the smoking ban is not the industry's only enemy, the evidence that it has been severely damaged by the smoke-free legislation is now indisputable.


Source

The figure is now more like 50 pubs a week.


Will you do me a favour please?


Probably not. But I can't stop you from asking... :roll:


Please conduct a survey with smokers and ask how much they spend at the pub now and a what they spent at the pub 5 years ago. Then ask them if they could smoke at the pub (knowing they would have to shell out £3.50 a pint) would they visit more or would they prefer to stay at home.
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Postby CBBB » Tue Jan 05, 2010 3:35 pm

WTF are you on about Z4? You have been lambasting us poor smokers for the last couple of weeks and now you are complaining about the price of a packet of fags!

Make your bloody mind up!
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Postby cyprusgrump » Tue Jan 05, 2010 3:38 pm

Z4 wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Z4 wrote:
cyprusgrump wrote:
Raymanoff wrote:i was at the huge pub near London bridge 2 weeks ago... inside was packed but they also had a lot of heated space outside under a big tent... but only few people were there. So dont blame it on smoking ban... me being non smoker, i actually sat outside because it was so warm and cozy.


Not all pubs have the space to provide facilities for smokers. I was in London in November and none of the pubs we visited had any option but to stand outside on the pavement if you wanted to smoke. That was fine in November (it was quite mild) but not so nice if it is snowing outside...

The Smoking Ban has definately affected pub trade: -

The financial analysts Goldman Sachs - hardly a "pro smoking organisation'' - recently stated that the smoking ban has reduced average pub profits by 10%. Scottish & Newcastle, the UK's largest brewery estimated a 8% fall in beer sales in January and since then beers sales in the UK have fallen to their lowest level since the Great Depression. But most devastating to the ASH version of events are the statistics for pub closures which accelerated dramatically in 2007. The trade journal The Morning Advertiser blamed this squarely on "the savage impact of the smoking ban and spiralling costs" and the figures require little comment:

2005: 2 a week

2006: 4 a week

2007: 27 a week

This seven-fold increase in pub closures is unprecedented in recent British history and although the smoking ban is not the industry's only enemy, the evidence that it has been severely damaged by the smoke-free legislation is now indisputable.


Source

The figure is now more like 50 pubs a week.


Will you do me a favour please?


Probably not. But I can't stop you from asking... :roll:


Please conduct a survey with smokers and ask how much they spend at the pub now and a what they spent at the pub 5 years ago. Then ask them if they could smoke at the pub (knowing they would have to shell out £3.50 a pint) would they visit more or would they prefer to stay at home.


The numbers I quoted came from the same source you used in your OP.

Here

How come it is a reliable source when you quote it but not when I do it? :roll:

Silly boy! :lol:
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