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How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby magikthrill » Wed Aug 03, 2005 12:17 am

gabaston wrote:
(a) federal type country, with realtime cash compensations.
(b) carry on as we are with gradual recognition over the next thousand years.


and then people call me biased when I say that majority of TCs are the ones not favoring a true solution...
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Postby erolz » Wed Aug 03, 2005 12:24 am

magikthrill wrote:
and then people call me biased when I say that majority of TCs are the ones not favoring a true solution...


Is this then an example of a GC that favours a true solution (or nearer to one that wishes to continue a root cause of the problem today)?

Cyprus, with an 82% Greek population should have been given to Greece by the British from the 1930s after a democratic referendum.


Also how do you get from a post from gabaston to a 'majority of TC' (even if gabastons posts showed what you think it shows which I do not personal think it does myself)?
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Postby magikthrill » Wed Aug 03, 2005 12:29 am

actually i got my estimations from both the majority of TC posters that feel the same way gabaston does and form my research on the trnc website which i believe is the official policy/bs that is being passed on to normal turkish cypriots living in north cyprus (i believe i have posted in the past the crap that is on that website)

do you deny that GCs would accept a plan that would allow - not force but allow - about 75% of GCs to return to their homes and still create a bizonal/bicommunal republic?

do you deny that TCs would reject such a plan even though it satisfies their unnecessary request of bizonality (i believe you too have posted in the past that bicommunality was more important than bizonality, or was that only turkcyp??
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Postby erolz » Wed Aug 03, 2005 12:37 am

magikthrill wrote: do you deny that GCs would accept a plan that would allow - not force but allow - about 75% of GCs to return to their homes and still create a bizonal/bicommunal republic?


How could I possibly deny or confirm such a hypothetical senario?

I believe there are GC that would reject any plan that gives the TC community any effective political rights greater than that of a minority. How many they are and how much power they have I really could not say.

magikthrill wrote:do you deny that TCs would reject such a plan even though it satisfies their unnecessary request of bizonality (i believe you too have posted in the past that bicommunality was more important than bizonality, or was that only turkcyp??


I personaly am concered more with bicommunialty than bizonality as I have said before.

I really can not comment on how TC would vote to such a hypothetical plan. What kind of bizonality would it have. What kind of bicommunilaty would it have? Without any information on this and a hundred other details I could even begin to speculate on how TC might vote, let alone 'deny' (or confirm) anything.

I suggest if you want a real picture of what might be or might not be acceptable to a TC majority you look to Alexandros' hard work on the issue.
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Postby MicAtCyp » Wed Aug 03, 2005 12:26 pm

Faruk,

May I just inform you that I don't reply to monologues. I read half the book you wrote, then threw the rest in the dustbin.So just to save you time, I advice you to reply specifically to quoted parts. I can quote your book and write another book totally irrelevant in this forum. You know what? Waste of time.

This is a discussion forum, a forum for vivid dialogue, not a 2 hour monologue time for propagandists that would turn everybody asleep!

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Postby metecyp » Wed Aug 03, 2005 12:30 pm

magikthrill wrote:do you deny that TCs would reject such a plan even though it satisfies their unnecessary request of bizonality

Who says that bizonality is unnecessary? Bizonality is very important and necessary for TCs and the majority of GCs realize that the next solution will be a bizonal one. So how do you reach so absolutely and rapidly that bizonality is an unnecessary request?
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Postby gabaston » Wed Aug 03, 2005 1:51 pm

Magik stop researching, youre wasting your time. If by now you haven’t understood that putting us back together, is the same as putting two fighting dogs in the same pit, then you haven’t got a clue about the cyprob.

Look this is how it starts

GC Ultra-nationalist group in the dock after TC beaten

Then it gets bigger, retaliation, etc etc and ends up with UN speeches.

This is reality. do you want us to return to us killing each other. is this your solution?

the incident is being dealt with now, but in the past it wouldn't have. in fact it would have probably been labelled tc provocation

Ps tell me now that the above is another example of crap turkish propaganda.
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Postby magikthrill » Wed Aug 03, 2005 2:23 pm

gabaston that is fine if you feel that way.

i also feel thta partition is ok too. however, you cannot come up with a fair partition so why should htis even occur? greed greed greed. what goes around comes around dont forget this. GCs are living proof of this.
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Postby gabaston » Wed Aug 03, 2005 2:43 pm

greed my left foot

im leaving a house and 13 plots and get five in return.

how much fairer do you want?
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Postby magikthrill » Wed Aug 03, 2005 2:50 pm

gabaston wrote:greed my left foot

im leaving a house and 13 plots and get five in return.

how much fairer do you want?


and my mom left the same behind and god nothing in return hmmm...

also you are an isolated incident. remembr as a TC you are not an individual but part of a community right? otherwise you cant get your political equality arguments to make any sense.
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