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Postby YFred » Mon Jan 04, 2010 1:19 am

boomerang wrote:
YFred wrote:
boomerang wrote:
YFred wrote:
boomerang wrote:let the banana explain what he got out of this before anyone replies... :lol:

PS...throwing empty slogans around ain't gonna cut it...

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At least you have now solved half your problem. You now understand it. The other half involves getting help and solving it, you fascist git.

Now, which bit of the BBF supported by Annan, UN, Greece, Turkey TCs and the EU did you not understand.
Which bit of the word partition do you not understand?
You are a bum-bo and you will always remain one to the the very end.


knucklehead maybe you should listen to bir's advice that he uses often on himself...better to keep slit shut giving the impression you are a knucklehead rather than opening the slit and removing all doubt...now ponder on this for a while... :lol:

PS...BBF can mean one helluva a lot, but your incompetent mind has no clue with even the simplest form of a meaning..

Yeah but it is on paper and you can roll it into a cylindrical shape and be your Greek self and enjoy it in another way, old chap?


you disappoint me knucklehead...



now remind me again which is one is your grandpa?... :lol:

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Postby YFred » Mon Jan 04, 2010 1:22 am

boomerang wrote:
YFred wrote:
boomerang wrote:
YFred wrote:
boomerang wrote:
YFred wrote:
boomerang wrote:let the banana explain what he got out of this before anyone replies... :lol:

PS...throwing empty slogans around ain't gonna cut it...

kind regards
the fascist

At least you have now solved half your problem. You now understand it. The other half involves getting help and solving it, you fascist git.

Now, which bit of the BBF supported by Annan, UN, Greece, Turkey TCs and the EU did you not understand.
Which bit of the word partition do you not understand?
You are a bum-bo and you will always remain one to the the very end.


knucklehead maybe you should listen to bir's advice that he uses often on himself...better to keep slit shut giving the impression you are a knucklehead rather than opening the slit and removing all doubt...now ponder on this for a while... :lol:

PS...BBF can mean one helluva a lot, but your incompetent mind has no clue with even the simplest form of a meaning..

Yeah but it is on paper and you can roll it into a cylindrical shape and be your Greek self and enjoy it in another way, old chap?


you disappoint me knucklehead...



now remind me again which is one is your grandpa?... :lol:

Bumbo Happy Bayram


yeah same to you and your family...


:lol:

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Postby Bananiot » Mon Jan 04, 2010 1:28 am

Further to the above, Talisker, I could add that:

In almost all federal governments, the population analogy is always taken care of and it is even reversed in some instances, by the representation according to the states or regions. The weighted vote is the norm here and not the exemption, like the rejectionists have been telling us here. Here is an example. The vote of one voter if Uri is worth 34 voters of Zurich. The Swiss voters that reside in the small cantons (about 9% of the whole) can block the will of the remaining 91%. Even in the US of A there are such cases. I say even in the USA because there the system is not organised to solve differences on ethnic level. Al Gore won absolute majority in 2000 but did not become President because the difference in voting between the small and large states reaches 1 in 50 or even more. So Gore lost out because of the system of electoral college for the election of president. In Australia and in Canada, I believe, the small states enjoy equal status with the large ones.
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Postby Talisker » Mon Jan 04, 2010 1:33 am

Bananiot wrote:With BBF we will still have one man one vote, nobody said otherwise. In fact we have also suggested that GC votes will also contribute to the election for the TC leader, since we have agreed to rotating presidency.

Don't believe in rotating presidency - that in itself seems like contrived rather than true democracy and nowhere else in the EU is national leadership predetermined based on ethnic origin!
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Postby Get Real! » Mon Jan 04, 2010 2:04 am

Bananiot wrote:He agrees with copper, he thinks all GC's want BBF. The man from down under is a complete clown. Paliometocho thinks Christofias never made the comment, just because he never reads anything. And the other fool, from Tseri, is quite sure that Christofias wants to sell Cyprus. He now thinks that we already have "physical partition" but I suspect he is trying to say that we have partition on the ground but he forgot to mention that as a bonus we have 40000 Turkish soldiers armed to the teeth and if needed they can become 100000 in a matter of minutes. He forgot to say that we have some hundreds of thousands of settlers who will easily become a million and more if the current situation is allowed to linger for a bit more. The other idiot, though, still insists that the status quo is best for us, given the circumstances. Who is teaching him these rubbish, I wonder.

Just as I expected you’re unable to explain how partition can possibly occur without an attempt of high treason by the government.

Unfortunately for you Bananiot, we’re in the 21st century now so the days when you could easily fool the Cypriot public are long gone so give it up…
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Postby Expatkiwi » Mon Jan 04, 2010 2:18 am

Get Real! wrote:Just as I expected you’re unable to explain how partition can possibly occur without an attempt of high treason by the government.


There is an old saying, GR: A victor never commits treason. If the RoCy government decided to say 'yes', then it is no longer treason, but official state policy.
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Postby Get Real! » Mon Jan 04, 2010 2:23 am

Expatkiwi wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Just as I expected you’re unable to explain how partition can possibly occur without an attempt of high treason by the government.


There is an old saying, GR: A victor never commits treason. If the RoCy government decided to say 'yes', then it is no longer treason, but official state policy.

No such stupid saying exists because it doesn't even make sense! Now kindly return to your sheep shagging...
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Postby Expatkiwi » Mon Jan 04, 2010 2:37 am

Get Real! wrote:
Expatkiwi wrote:
Get Real! wrote:Just as I expected you’re unable to explain how partition can possibly occur without an attempt of high treason by the government.


There is an old saying, GR: A victor never commits treason. If the RoCy government decided to say 'yes', then it is no longer treason, but official state policy.

No such stupid saying exists because it doesn't even make sense! Now kindly return to your sheep shagging...


Read James Clavell's book SHOGUN, GR. The saying is there.
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Postby Piratis » Mon Jan 04, 2010 4:08 am

Bananiot wrote:Further to the above, Talisker, I could add that:

In almost all federal governments, the population analogy is always taken care of and it is even reversed in some instances, by the representation according to the states or regions. The weighted vote is the norm here and not the exemption, like the rejectionists have been telling us here. Here is an example. The vote of one voter if Uri is worth 34 voters of Zurich. The Swiss voters that reside in the small cantons (about 9% of the whole) can block the will of the remaining 91%. Even in the US of A there are such cases. I say even in the USA because there the system is not organised to solve differences on ethnic level. Al Gore won absolute majority in 2000 but did not become President because the difference in voting between the small and large states reaches 1 in 50 or even more. So Gore lost out because of the system of electoral college for the election of president. In Australia and in Canada, I believe, the small states enjoy equal status with the large ones.


First of all, none of those federations was created by means of foreign invasion and ethnic cleansing. The north part of Cyprus (just like all other parts) belongs mostly to us, who we are the 80%+ majority, not to the TCs, who are a minority in all parts of the island. You seek to legalize the claim of the TCs over the north but you have failed to do so.

Secondly, Switzerland is a confederation.

Thirdly, in all federations people can settle anywhere they want and became residents of any state they want enjoying their full human rights, such as the right for property. There is no discrimination based on ethnicity, which is of course something racist. If we have in Cyprus what they have in all other Federations the result will be 2 GC states, which will then vote to unite and become a unitary state. So I would accept a normal Federation for Cyprus.
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Postby Acikgoz » Mon Jan 04, 2010 10:49 am

Countries evolve all the time. Seeking the solution of one man one vote through Cyprus without the ground work established of mutual trust and understanding and most specifically common goals the is fools gold.

The evolution that established long term peace in Switzerland evolved rather than being transcribed in one sitting. I am happy to let those who keep insisting on everything in one go to press, at least it means partition more likely and therefore a more functional base from which to let the "invisible hand" do its work.

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