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Postby boomerang » Sun Jan 03, 2010 11:14 pm

YFred wrote:
boomerang wrote:let the banana explain what he got out of this before anyone replies... :lol:

PS...throwing empty slogans around ain't gonna cut it...

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At least you have now solved half your problem. You now understand it. The other half involves getting help and solving it, you fascist git.

Now, which bit of the BBF supported by Annan, UN, Greece, Turkey TCs and the EU did you not understand.
Which bit of the word partition do you not understand?
You are a bum-bo and you will always remain one to the the very end.


knucklehead maybe you should listen to bir's advice that he uses often on himself...better to keep slit shut giving the impression you are a knucklehead rather than opening the slit and removing all doubt...now ponder on this for a while... :lol:

PS...BBF can mean one helluva a lot, but your incompetend mind has no clue with even the simplest form of a meaning..
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Postby boomerang » Sun Jan 03, 2010 11:23 pm

CopperLine wrote:If Turkey does not enter the EU then a settled reunification of Cyprus is highly unlikely, and continued de facto partition will continue indefinitely with attendant collapse of a distinct TC community.

[b]If
Turkey does enter the EU then a negotiated BBF, subject to details, is possible.[/b]

But the EU membership of Turkey is, even on the most optimistic of estimates of the keenest supporters, still seven to ten years away. Therefore unless the current BBF negotiations are pushed, irrespective of Turkey's EU membership ambitions, then effective partition remains the most likely forseeable scenario. This suits GC nationalists and Turkish nationalists, since they are two sides of the same debased coin.

For those of us who want a negotiated settlement to be secured sooner rather than later then there is only one game in town : a variant of BBF arising, roughly speaking, from Annan.

I agree with those who say that the devil is in the detail of BBF but, top extend that metaphor, Lucifer lies in the outright rejection of BBF.


i agree with copper...throwing around letters like BBF ain't gonna cut it...it's the worked out plan that everyone will vote for and the details haven't emerged yet...

from what i can see everyone wants BBF with the gcs wanting it to be in line with the EU where the tcs want to deviate from it...something i think the EU will not accomodate or tolerate...

so the blame will fall on the tcs in the long term...
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Jan 03, 2010 11:57 pm

boomerang wrote:
CopperLine wrote:If Turkey does not enter the EU then a settled reunification of Cyprus is highly unlikely, and continued de facto partition will continue indefinitely with attendant collapse of a distinct TC community.

[b]If
Turkey does enter the EU then a negotiated BBF, subject to details, is possible.[/b]

But the EU membership of Turkey is, even on the most optimistic of estimates of the keenest supporters, still seven to ten years away. Therefore unless the current BBF negotiations are pushed, irrespective of Turkey's EU membership ambitions, then effective partition remains the most likely forseeable scenario. This suits GC nationalists and Turkish nationalists, since they are two sides of the same debased coin.

For those of us who want a negotiated settlement to be secured sooner rather than later then there is only one game in town : a variant of BBF arising, roughly speaking, from Annan.

I agree with those who say that the devil is in the detail of BBF but, top extend that metaphor, Lucifer lies in the outright rejection of BBF.


i agree with copper...throwing around letters like BBF ain't gonna cut it...it's the worked out plan that everyone will vote for and the details haven't emerged yet...

from what i can see everyone wants BBF with the gcs wanting it to be in line with the EU where the tcs want to deviate from it...something i think the EU will not accomodate or tolerate...

so the blame will fall on the tcs in the long term...


Open ended talks with Eroğlu in power they will be another 5 years to talks going on and on and on.
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Postby boomerang » Sun Jan 03, 2010 11:59 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
boomerang wrote:
CopperLine wrote:If Turkey does not enter the EU then a settled reunification of Cyprus is highly unlikely, and continued de facto partition will continue indefinitely with attendant collapse of a distinct TC community.

[b]If
Turkey does enter the EU then a negotiated BBF, subject to details, is possible.[/b]

But the EU membership of Turkey is, even on the most optimistic of estimates of the keenest supporters, still seven to ten years away. Therefore unless the current BBF negotiations are pushed, irrespective of Turkey's EU membership ambitions, then effective partition remains the most likely forseeable scenario. This suits GC nationalists and Turkish nationalists, since they are two sides of the same debased coin.

For those of us who want a negotiated settlement to be secured sooner rather than later then there is only one game in town : a variant of BBF arising, roughly speaking, from Annan.

I agree with those who say that the devil is in the detail of BBF but, top extend that metaphor, Lucifer lies in the outright rejection of BBF.


i agree with copper...throwing around letters like BBF ain't gonna cut it...it's the worked out plan that everyone will vote for and the details haven't emerged yet...

from what i can see everyone wants BBF with the gcs wanting it to be in line with the EU where the tcs want to deviate from it...something i think the EU will not accomodate or tolerate...

so the blame will fall on the tcs in the long term...


Open ended talks with Eroğlu in power they will be another 5 years to talks going on and on and on.


and in the mean time bye bye tcs...and come on down ECHR, ECJ and no EU for turkey... :lol:

smellingglue is a lifeline for the gcs... :lol:
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Jan 04, 2010 12:00 am

boomerang wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
boomerang wrote:
CopperLine wrote:If Turkey does not enter the EU then a settled reunification of Cyprus is highly unlikely, and continued de facto partition will continue indefinitely with attendant collapse of a distinct TC community.

[b]If
Turkey does enter the EU then a negotiated BBF, subject to details, is possible.[/b]

But the EU membership of Turkey is, even on the most optimistic of estimates of the keenest supporters, still seven to ten years away. Therefore unless the current BBF negotiations are pushed, irrespective of Turkey's EU membership ambitions, then effective partition remains the most likely forseeable scenario. This suits GC nationalists and Turkish nationalists, since they are two sides of the same debased coin.

For those of us who want a negotiated settlement to be secured sooner rather than later then there is only one game in town : a variant of BBF arising, roughly speaking, from Annan.

I agree with those who say that the devil is in the detail of BBF but, top extend that metaphor, Lucifer lies in the outright rejection of BBF.


i agree with copper...throwing around letters like BBF ain't gonna cut it...it's the worked out plan that everyone will vote for and the details haven't emerged yet...

from what i can see everyone wants BBF with the gcs wanting it to be in line with the EU where the tcs want to deviate from it...something i think the EU will not accomodate or tolerate...

so the blame will fall on the tcs in the long term...


Open ended talks with Eroğlu in power they will be another 5 years to talks going on and on and on.


and in the mean time bye bye tcs...and come on down ECHR, ECJ and no EU for turkey... :lol:

smellingglue is a lifeline for the gcs... :lol:


In short no solution.
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Postby boomerang » Mon Jan 04, 2010 12:01 am

Viewpoint wrote:
boomerang wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
boomerang wrote:
CopperLine wrote:If Turkey does not enter the EU then a settled reunification of Cyprus is highly unlikely, and continued de facto partition will continue indefinitely with attendant collapse of a distinct TC community.

[b]If
Turkey does enter the EU then a negotiated BBF, subject to details, is possible.[/b]

But the EU membership of Turkey is, even on the most optimistic of estimates of the keenest supporters, still seven to ten years away. Therefore unless the current BBF negotiations are pushed, irrespective of Turkey's EU membership ambitions, then effective partition remains the most likely forseeable scenario. This suits GC nationalists and Turkish nationalists, since they are two sides of the same debased coin.

For those of us who want a negotiated settlement to be secured sooner rather than later then there is only one game in town : a variant of BBF arising, roughly speaking, from Annan.

I agree with those who say that the devil is in the detail of BBF but, top extend that metaphor, Lucifer lies in the outright rejection of BBF.


i agree with copper...throwing around letters like BBF ain't gonna cut it...it's the worked out plan that everyone will vote for and the details haven't emerged yet...

from what i can see everyone wants BBF with the gcs wanting it to be in line with the EU where the tcs want to deviate from it...something i think the EU will not accomodate or tolerate...

so the blame will fall on the tcs in the long term...


Open ended talks with Eroğlu in power they will be another 5 years to talks going on and on and on.


and in the mean time bye bye tcs...and come on down ECHR, ECJ and no EU for turkey... :lol:

smellingglue is a lifeline for the gcs... :lol:


In short no solution.


yeah but still a lifeline for the gcs... :lol:
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Jan 04, 2010 12:02 am

lifeline as in money? or pieces of paper judgements? all in all it means no solution.
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Postby boomerang » Mon Jan 04, 2010 12:26 am

Viewpoint wrote:lifeline as in money? or pieces of paper judgements? all in all it means no solution.


a blessing in disguise... :lol:
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Postby Bananiot » Mon Jan 04, 2010 12:42 am

He agrees with copper, he thinks all GC's want BBF. The man from down under is a complete clown. Paliometocho thinks Christofias never made the comment, just because he never reads anything. And the other fool, from Tseri, is quite sure that Christofias wants to sell Cyprus. He now thinks that we already have "physical partition" but I suspect he is trying to say that we have partition on the ground but he forgot to mention that as a bonus we have 40000 Turkish soldiers armed to the teeth and if needed they can become 100000 in a matter of minutes. He forgot to say that we have some hundreds of thousands of settlers who will easily become a million and more if the current situation is allowed to linger for a bit more. The other idiot, though, still insists that the status quo is best for us, given the circumstances. Who is teaching him these rubbish, I wonder.

P.S. Here you are. Not used the word fascist even once.
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Postby boomerang » Mon Jan 04, 2010 12:49 am

Bananiot wrote:He agrees with copper, he thinks all GC's want BBF. The man from down under is a complete clown. Paliometocho thinks Christofias never made the comment, just because he never reads anything. And the other fool, from Tseri, is quite sure that Christofias wants to sell Cyprus. He now thinks that we already have "physical partition" but I suspect he is trying to say that we have partition on the ground but he forgot to mention that as a bonus we have 40000 Turkish soldiers armed to the teeth and if needed they can become 100000 in a matter of minutes. He forgot to say that we have some hundreds of thousands of settlers who will easily become a million and more if the current situation is allowed to linger for a bit more. The other idiot, though, still insists that the status quo is best for us, given the circumstances. Who is teaching him these rubbish, I wonder.

P.S. Here you are. Not used the word fascist even once.


hey banana why not tell us your version of BBF, huh?...come on spit it out for a change rather than swallowing it...
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