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[Get Real!]

...mark my words again, ONE DAY WHEN EVEN WORSE CALAMITIES WILL BE VISITED ON OUR BELOVED CYPRUS BECAUSE YOU AND YOUR THINK-ALIKES,BABANIOT WILL SHINE AS AN EXAMPLE OF WISDOM,LOGIC AND FORESIGHT...

That’s based on your assumption that you have the common sense to figure out “wisdom”, “logic”, and “foresight”, but you’re as thick as a brick so quit posting ridiculous nonsense!

[BirKibrisli]

A humanitarian is one who has empathy and compassion for all people,even the "enemy"

A "humanitarian" who supports Institutional racism and accepts human rights violations? I don't think so.

Piratis,
It is easy to feel empathy and compassion for your own "side" ....
It is very easy as you are doing to turn a blind eye to the wrongs of your "side"...It takes an exceptional person to feel for the "other side" and to criticise his own "side" knowing he will draw their wrath...mark my words again, ONE DAY WHEN EVEN WORSE CALAMITIES WILL BE VISITED ON OUR BELOVED CYPRUS BECAUSE YOU AND YOUR THINK-ALIKES,BABANIOT WILL SHINE AS AN EXAMPLE OF WISDOM,LOGIC AND FORESIGHT...

You will be known as "those short-sighted,vengeful,bloody-minded,uncompromising,stubborn" Cypriots, and god knows there are plenty on the TC side like you,who have shot themselves in the foot,in pursuit of dominance and revenge...

So are you threatening us again with more calamities because we insist on democracy and human rights?

Real humanitarians do not support the human rights violations of any side. I, for example, do not support the human rights violations of any Cypriot, either he/she belongs to "my side" or the "other side". I support that all Cypriot citizens should have the 100% of their human rights.

You want to violate the human rights of GCs, and Bananiot supports you. Neither of you can be classified as humanitarians, but you are the complete opposite.

I am not threatening you Piratis,I am warning you,as good friends should when they see their friends on the wrong road...We do not support human right violations...We can see the realities,analyse the recent history,and tell you what is possible and what is not...We want a solution which will reduce the possibility of even worse calamities for Cyprus...You seem to have learned no lessons from our tragic past...In 1963 you were not able to stomach that 18% of Cypriots would hold 30 % of the power... No matter that you had 70% of the power...You chose to see the empty side of the glass.. The results are here to see...Now you are again showing no sign of compromise to achieve a workable and lasting solution..Logic and history tells me you might again live to regret your inflexible attitude..That is all I am saying...You can take it a a friendly warning or a threat...I don't have control over that...It is entirely up to you...

[DT.]

A humanitarian is one who has empathy and compassion for all people,even the "enemy"

A "humanitarian" who supports Institutional racism and accepts human rights violations? I don't think so.

Piratis,
It is easy to feel empathy and compassion for your own "side" ....
It is very easy as you are doing to turn a blind eye to the wrongs of your "side"...It takes an exceptional person to feel for the "other side" and to criticise his own "side" knowing he will draw their wrath...mark my words again, ONE DAY WHEN EVEN WORSE CALAMITIES WILL BE VISITED ON OUR BELOVED CYPRUS BECAUSE YOU AND YOUR THINK-ALIKES,BABANIOT WILL SHINE AS AN EXAMPLE OF WISDOM,LOGIC AND FORESIGHT...

You will be known as "those short-sighted,vengeful,bloody-minded,uncompromising,stubborn" Cypriots, and god knows there are plenty on the TC side like you,who have shot themselves in the foot,in pursuit of dominance and revenge...

So are you threatening us again with more calamities because we insist on democracy and human rights?

Real humanitarians do not support the human rights violations of any side. I, for example, do not support the human rights violations of any Cypriot, either he/she belongs to "my side" or the "other side". I support that all Cypriot citizens should have the 100% of their human rights.

You want to violate the human rights of GCs, and Bananiot supports you. Neither of you can be classified as humanitarians, but you are the complete opposite.

I am not threatening you Piratis,I am warning you,as good friends should when they see their friends on the wrong road...We do not support human right violations...We can see the realities,analyse the recent history,and tell you what is possible and what is not...We want a solution which will reduce the possibility of even worse calamities for Cyprus...You seem to have learned no lessons from our tragic past...In 1963 you were not able to stomach that 18% of Cypriots would hold 30 % of the power... No matter that you had 70% of the power...You chose to see the empty side of the glass.. The results are here to see...Now you are again showing no sign of compromise to achieve a workable and lasting solution..Logic and history tells me you might again live to regret your inflexible attitude..That is all I am saying...You can take it a a friendly warning or a threat...I don't have control over that...It is entirely up to you...

Bir, when you hold a veto right you have 100% of the power not 30%.

[BirKibrisli]

...mark my words again, ONE DAY WHEN EVEN WORSE CALAMITIES WILL BE VISITED ON OUR BELOVED CYPRUS BECAUSE YOU AND YOUR THINK-ALIKES,BABANIOT WILL SHINE AS AN EXAMPLE OF WISDOM,LOGIC AND FORESIGHT...

That’s based on your assumption that you have the common sense to figure out “wisdom”, “logic”, and “foresight”, but you’re as thick as a brick so quit posting ridiculous nonsense!

It seems I have given you too much credit till now,GR! But with that insult you have done your dash...You have proven to be a pompous, insufferable arsehole of the first degree......Expect to be treated as one from now on...

[YFred]

A humanitarian is one who has empathy and compassion for all people,even the "enemy"

A "humanitarian" who supports Institutional racism and accepts human rights violations? I don't think so.

Piratis,
It is easy to feel empathy and compassion for your own "side" ....
It is very easy as you are doing to turn a blind eye to the wrongs of your "side"...It takes an exceptional person to feel for the "other side" and to criticise his own "side" knowing he will draw their wrath...mark my words again, ONE DAY WHEN EVEN WORSE CALAMITIES WILL BE VISITED ON OUR BELOVED CYPRUS BECAUSE YOU AND YOUR THINK-ALIKES,BABANIOT WILL SHINE AS AN EXAMPLE OF WISDOM,LOGIC AND FORESIGHT...

You will be known as "those short-sighted,vengeful,bloody-minded,uncompromising,stubborn" Cypriots, and god knows there are plenty on the TC side like you,who have shot themselves in the foot,in pursuit of dominance and revenge...

So are you threatening us again with more calamities because we insist on democracy and human rights?

Real humanitarians do not support the human rights violations of any side. I, for example, do not support the human rights violations of any Cypriot, either he/she belongs to "my side" or the "other side". I support that all Cypriot citizens should have the 100% of their human rights.

You want to violate the human rights of GCs, and Bananiot supports you. Neither of you can be classified as humanitarians, but you are the complete opposite.

I am not threatening you Piratis,I am warning you,as good friends should when they see their friends on the wrong road...We do not support human right violations...We can see the realities,analyse the recent history,and tell you what is possible and what is not...We want a solution which will reduce the possibility of even worse calamities for Cyprus...You seem to have learned no lessons from our tragic past...In 1963 you were not able to stomach that 18% of Cypriots would hold 30 % of the power... No matter that you had 70% of the power...You chose to see the empty side of the glass.. The results are here to see...Now you are again showing no sign of compromise to achieve a workable and lasting solution..Logic and history tells me you might again live to regret your inflexible attitude..That is all I am saying...You can take it a a friendly warning or a threat...I don't have control over that...It is entirely up to you...

Bir, when you hold a veto right you have 100% of the power not 30%.

I hope your day job is not an accountant. How do you calculate that? I make it 30% (Power) + 20% (Veto) protection which sums up to 50%. Which meant you could not suffocate the TCs legally. Now, how do you get 100%?
Ottomans had 100%. Was it the same deal as the Ottomans?

[DT.]

A humanitarian is one who has empathy and compassion for all people,even the "enemy"

A "humanitarian" who supports Institutional racism and accepts human rights violations? I don't think so.

Piratis,
It is easy to feel empathy and compassion for your own "side" ....
It is very easy as you are doing to turn a blind eye to the wrongs of your "side"...It takes an exceptional person to feel for the "other side" and to criticise his own "side" knowing he will draw their wrath...mark my words again, ONE DAY WHEN EVEN WORSE CALAMITIES WILL BE VISITED ON OUR BELOVED CYPRUS BECAUSE YOU AND YOUR THINK-ALIKES,BABANIOT WILL SHINE AS AN EXAMPLE OF WISDOM,LOGIC AND FORESIGHT...

You will be known as "those short-sighted,vengeful,bloody-minded,uncompromising,stubborn" Cypriots, and god knows there are plenty on the TC side like you,who have shot themselves in the foot,in pursuit of dominance and revenge...

So are you threatening us again with more calamities because we insist on democracy and human rights?

Real humanitarians do not support the human rights violations of any side. I, for example, do not support the human rights violations of any Cypriot, either he/she belongs to "my side" or the "other side". I support that all Cypriot citizens should have the 100% of their human rights.

You want to violate the human rights of GCs, and Bananiot supports you. Neither of you can be classified as humanitarians, but you are the complete opposite.

I am not threatening you Piratis,I am warning you,as good friends should when they see their friends on the wrong road...We do not support human right violations...We can see the realities,analyse the recent history,and tell you what is possible and what is not...We want a solution which will reduce the possibility of even worse calamities for Cyprus...You seem to have learned no lessons from our tragic past...In 1963 you were not able to stomach that 18% of Cypriots would hold 30 % of the power... No matter that you had 70% of the power...You chose to see the empty side of the glass.. The results are here to see...Now you are again showing no sign of compromise to achieve a workable and lasting solution..Logic and history tells me you might again live to regret your inflexible attitude..That is all I am saying...You can take it a a friendly warning or a threat...I don't have control over that...It is entirely up to you...

Bir, when you hold a veto right you have 100% of the power not 30%.

I hope your day job is not an accountant. How do you calculate that? I make it 30% (Power) + 20% (Veto) protection which sums up to 50%. Which meant you could not suffocate the TCs legally. Now, how do you get 100%?
Ottomans had 100%. Was it the same deal as the Ottomans?

DO you recall the TC's veto being used in 63 to suffocate the economy of the island by freezing tax collection? This was done in order to blackmail the government into accepting the tc position on municipalities.

When you can bankrupt the country, you hold 100% of the power in my book.

[YFred]

A humanitarian is one who has empathy and compassion for all people,even the "enemy"

A "humanitarian" who supports Institutional racism and accepts human rights violations? I don't think so.

Piratis,
It is easy to feel empathy and compassion for your own "side" ....
It is very easy as you are doing to turn a blind eye to the wrongs of your "side"...It takes an exceptional person to feel for the "other side" and to criticise his own "side" knowing he will draw their wrath...mark my words again, ONE DAY WHEN EVEN WORSE CALAMITIES WILL BE VISITED ON OUR BELOVED CYPRUS BECAUSE YOU AND YOUR THINK-ALIKES,BABANIOT WILL SHINE AS AN EXAMPLE OF WISDOM,LOGIC AND FORESIGHT...

You will be known as "those short-sighted,vengeful,bloody-minded,uncompromising,stubborn" Cypriots, and god knows there are plenty on the TC side like you,who have shot themselves in the foot,in pursuit of dominance and revenge...

So are you threatening us again with more calamities because we insist on democracy and human rights?

Real humanitarians do not support the human rights violations of any side. I, for example, do not support the human rights violations of any Cypriot, either he/she belongs to "my side" or the "other side". I support that all Cypriot citizens should have the 100% of their human rights.

You want to violate the human rights of GCs, and Bananiot supports you. Neither of you can be classified as humanitarians, but you are the complete opposite.

I am not threatening you Piratis,I am warning you,as good friends should when they see their friends on the wrong road...We do not support human right violations...We can see the realities,analyse the recent history,and tell you what is possible and what is not...We want a solution which will reduce the possibility of even worse calamities for Cyprus...You seem to have learned no lessons from our tragic past...In 1963 you were not able to stomach that 18% of Cypriots would hold 30 % of the power... No matter that you had 70% of the power...You chose to see the empty side of the glass.. The results are here to see...Now you are again showing no sign of compromise to achieve a workable and lasting solution..Logic and history tells me you might again live to regret your inflexible attitude..That is all I am saying...You can take it a a friendly warning or a threat...I don't have control over that...It is entirely up to you...

Bir, when you hold a veto right you have 100% of the power not 30%.

I hope your day job is not an accountant. How do you calculate that? I make it 30% (Power) + 20% (Veto) protection which sums up to 50%. Which meant you could not suffocate the TCs legally. Now, how do you get 100%?
Ottomans had 100%. Was it the same deal as the Ottomans?

DO you recall the TC's veto being used in 63 to suffocate the economy of the island by freezing tax collection? This was done in order to blackmail the government into accepting the tc position on municipalities.

When you can bankrupt the country, you hold 100% of the power in my book.

Sorry, I do not recal, as I was 5. All I recall is bullets coming from the Church on the Starvos hill at that age. Was there no room for negotiations? Was the only choice to tear the country appart? Was that really the only reason for the 63 troubles. Please read the Akritas plan.
Did enosis really play no part in the 63 troubles?

[BirKibrisli]

A humanitarian is one who has empathy and compassion for all people,even the "enemy"

A "humanitarian" who supports Institutional racism and accepts human rights violations? I don't think so.

Piratis,
It is easy to feel empathy and compassion for your own "side" ....
It is very easy as you are doing to turn a blind eye to the wrongs of your "side"...It takes an exceptional person to feel for the "other side" and to criticise his own "side" knowing he will draw their wrath...mark my words again, ONE DAY WHEN EVEN WORSE CALAMITIES WILL BE VISITED ON OUR BELOVED CYPRUS BECAUSE YOU AND YOUR THINK-ALIKES,BABANIOT WILL SHINE AS AN EXAMPLE OF WISDOM,LOGIC AND FORESIGHT...

You will be known as "those short-sighted,vengeful,bloody-minded,uncompromising,stubborn" Cypriots, and god knows there are plenty on the TC side like you,who have shot themselves in the foot,in pursuit of dominance and revenge...

So are you threatening us again with more calamities because we insist on democracy and human rights?

Real humanitarians do not support the human rights violations of any side. I, for example, do not support the human rights violations of any Cypriot, either he/she belongs to "my side" or the "other side". I support that all Cypriot citizens should have the 100% of their human rights.

You want to violate the human rights of GCs, and Bananiot supports you. Neither of you can be classified as humanitarians, but you are the complete opposite.

I am not threatening you Piratis,I am warning you,as good friends should when they see their friends on the wrong road...We do not support human right violations...We can see the realities,analyse the recent history,and tell you what is possible and what is not...We want a solution which will reduce the possibility of even worse calamities for Cyprus...You seem to have learned no lessons from our tragic past...In 1963 you were not able to stomach that 18% of Cypriots would hold 30 % of the power... No matter that you had 70% of the power...You chose to see the empty side of the glass.. The results are here to see...Now you are again showing no sign of compromise to achieve a workable and lasting solution..Logic and history tells me you might again live to regret your inflexible attitude..That is all I am saying...You can take it a a friendly warning or a threat...I don't have control over that...It is entirely up to you...

Bir, when you hold a veto right you have 100% of the power not 30%.

No,DT...When you hold a veto,all you can do is obstract,frustrate,but little more...The TCs had no power to enforce any bills or legistlation...They only had 30% of the vote...with some goodwill on the GC side,the TCs might have come around in the end,learn to trust their compatriots and be more and more cooperative...Makarios had no patience...He had a megali idea to achive ,ENOSIS>>> can you deny this????

[Paphitis]

No,NO...Bananiot has an identity,citizen of the world,and common values,humanitarianism,....

I don’t know how you arrived at this conclusion unless you assume that a “humanitarian” is one that supports Turkish Cypriots!

Compassion for the downtrodden is at the very heart of a humanitarian but you’ll never find Bananiot campaigning for any of them! If anything he supports the Anglo-American war machine; the makers of widows and refugees!

What can I say? You’ve got some serious misconceptions in your head!

A humanitarian is one who has empathy and compassion for all people,even the "enemy", and not just his own kind...I have never read a post by Bananiot that supports the Anglo-American war machine...When I do,I will surely tick him off...

I can't have any empathy with a people who have downgraded my democratic and human rights.

I will actually spit when I see a TC!

If we ever meet,Paphidis,I will rememer to bring an umbrella!!!

There is absolutely no chance you and I will EVER meet as I can't respect anyone who supports an Apartheid system in Cyprus where my rights will be less than yours.

You can buzz off, because I only meet with Cypriots who regard me as their equal!

[BirKibrisli]

A humanitarian is one who has empathy and compassion for all people,even the "enemy"

A "humanitarian" who supports Institutional racism and accepts human rights violations? I don't think so.

Piratis,
It is easy to feel empathy and compassion for your own "side" ....
It is very easy as you are doing to turn a blind eye to the wrongs of your "side"...It takes an exceptional person to feel for the "other side" and to criticise his own "side" knowing he will draw their wrath...mark my words again, ONE DAY WHEN EVEN WORSE CALAMITIES WILL BE VISITED ON OUR BELOVED CYPRUS BECAUSE YOU AND YOUR THINK-ALIKES,BABANIOT WILL SHINE AS AN EXAMPLE OF WISDOM,LOGIC AND FORESIGHT...

You will be known as "those short-sighted,vengeful,bloody-minded,uncompromising,stubborn" Cypriots, and god knows there are plenty on the TC side like you,who have shot themselves in the foot,in pursuit of dominance and revenge...

So are you threatening us again with more calamities because we insist on democracy and human rights?

Real humanitarians do not support the human rights violations of any side. I, for example, do not support the human rights violations of any Cypriot, either he/she belongs to "my side" or the "other side". I support that all Cypriot citizens should have the 100% of their human rights.

You want to violate the human rights of GCs, and Bananiot supports you. Neither of you can be classified as humanitarians, but you are the complete opposite.

I am not threatening you Piratis,I am warning you,as good friends should when they see their friends on the wrong road...We do not support human right violations...We can see the realities,analyse the recent history,and tell you what is possible and what is not...We want a solution which will reduce the possibility of even worse calamities for Cyprus...You seem to have learned no lessons from our tragic past...In 1963 you were not able to stomach that 18% of Cypriots would hold 30 % of the power... No matter that you had 70% of the power...You chose to see the empty side of the glass.. The results are here to see...Now you are again showing no sign of compromise to achieve a workable and lasting solution..Logic and history tells me you might again live to regret your inflexible attitude..That is all I am saying...You can take it a a friendly warning or a threat...I don't have control over that...It is entirely up to you...

Bir, when you hold a veto right you have 100% of the power not 30%.

I hope your day job is not an accountant. How do you calculate that? I make it 30% (Power) + 20% (Veto) protection which sums up to 50%. Which meant you could not suffocate the TCs legally. Now, how do you get 100%?
Ottomans had 100%. Was it the same deal as the Ottomans?

DO you recall the TC's veto being used in 63 to suffocate the economy of the island by freezing tax collection? This was done in order to blackmail the government into accepting the tc position on municipalities.

When you can bankrupt the country, you hold 100% of the power in my book.

Sorry, I do not recal, as I was 5. All I recall is bullets coming from the Church on the Starvos hill at that age. Was there no room for negotiations? Was the only choice to tear the country appart? Was that really the only reason for the 63 troubles. Please read the Akritas plan.
Did enosis really play no part in the 63 troubles?

It is true what DT,says,YFred...Kuchuk did use his veto to stop a taxation bill,but by then it was obvious that Makarios and the GCs had not given up on their ENOSIS dream...So both sides were putting their Plan B in operation....