BirKibrisli wrote:Piratis wrote:BirKibrisli wrote:Piratis wrote:Bananiot wrote:Further to the above, Talisker, I could add that:
In almost all federal governments, the population analogy is always taken care of and it is even reversed in some instances, by the representation according to the states or regions. The weighted vote is the norm here and not the exemption, like the rejectionists have been telling us here. Here is an example. The vote of one voter if Uri is worth 34 voters of Zurich. The Swiss voters that reside in the small cantons (about 9% of the whole) can block the will of the remaining 91%. Even in the US of A there are such cases. I say even in the USA because there the system is not organised to solve differences on ethnic level. Al Gore won absolute majority in 2000 but did not become President because the difference in voting between the small and large states reaches 1 in 50 or even more. So Gore lost out because of the system of electoral college for the election of president. In Australia and in Canada, I believe, the small states enjoy equal status with the large ones.
First of all, none of those federations was created by means of foreign invasion and ethnic cleansing. The north part of Cyprus (just like all other parts) belongs mostly to us, who we are the 80%+ majority, not to the TCs, who are a minority in all parts of the island. You seek to legalize the claim of the TCs over the north but you have failed to do so.
Secondly, Switzerland is a confederation.
Thirdly, in all federations people can settle anywhere they want and became residents of any state they want enjoying their full human rights, such as the right for property. There is no discrimination based on ethnicity, which is of course something racist. If we have in Cyprus what they have in all other Federations the result will be 2 GC states, which will then vote to unite and become a unitary state. So I would accept a normal Federation for Cyprus.
There you have it...Piratis will accept any solution as long as the result will be 2 GC states in the short term AND 1 bigger GC state in the long term....Great...Where do all the TCs go to sign up....???
If by "1 big GC state" you mean one united Cyprus where GCs are the majority, then that is how it has always been until you ethnically cleansed us from our homeland in 74.
Bananiot tried to tell us that what he wants for Cyprus is a federation like all other federations. Well, in all other federations the human rights of people, including their right to property and the right to reside with full rights anywhere within their country that they want, are respected. So if we would have a normal federation like all the rest, then the end result would be two GC states.
But what you and bananiot want is not a normal federation. What you want is partition that will give to the 18% TC minority the 30% of our homeland.
The game is up,Piratis...Nobody will believe your democracy and human rights arguments any more...What you want is a GC dominated Cyprus where the TCs will once again be in their proper place,as a despised minority...Thanks a lot...
There are many minorities in Cyprus, not just the TCs who are obviously a minority as well. If yours is despised that is because of your criminal actions. But as I said you are forgiven for what you did in the past and nobody will despise you anymore if you stop violating our rights and trying to have gains on our expense as you have been doing for the most part of your history on this island.
You assumed,or taken it for granted,that in the foreseeable future people in Cyprus would vote on ethnic lines...A GC would always vote for a GC,no matter his/her policies,and a TC would always vote for a TC...If that is indeed the reality,then there is no point having a BBF with political equality...Because inevitably if people stick to their ethnic backgrounds in socially and politically vital aspects of life,we will have the same situation,civil war,that we had during 63-74 period...
