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[YFred]

He does not seem to realise that the true meaning can only be found in the details of what exactly this BBF entails, and since I don't see any details, how on earth are we to make any judgement as to whether this BBF mentioned above is acceptable or not?

It's all in the details, so perhaps Bananiot can give us these details on what exactly this BBF entails!

Does the President and his advisors not understood it either?
Do they not see that there is no difference between BBF as negotiated and Partition like you and the rest of the bash patriots can.
Are they that stupid or are they just pretending?
What was TPapa doing when negotiating the agreement if he thought it would lead to partition?
Partitoin is what you are going to get if these negotiations fail by April, and it will be as is.
You can cry as much as you like after.

We've heard it all before I'm afraid..........

Good. They you will not be surprised when it kicks you up the ass after April.

[-mikkie2-]

Anyone that thinks that agreed partition is acceptable must be delusional. Partition = disaster. It will mean the uncontrolled flood of settlers into the north, it will mean increased competition for resources, it will mean increased tensions in the region and possible breakout of armed conflict.

Perhaps this what the advocates of partition want - a kind of 'final solution'!

[paliometoxo]

NICOSIA - President of the Republic Demetris Christofias has called on the people of Cyprus to ignore rumours regarding scenarios about a solution of the Cyprus problem, and to stay calm, assuring that the government would remain faithful to UN resolutions, international and European law, and the high level agreements of 1977 and 1979, in efforts to reach a settlement, for which the goodwill of the Turkish side is necessary

and from today

Christofias: we are nowhere near a solution
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PRESIDENT Demetris Christofias said rumours regarding Cyprus problem solution scenarios should be ignored and that the island was nowhere near reaching such a solution.

In his New Year message to the people Christofias said to stay calm and that the government would remain faithful to UN resolutions, international and European law, and the high level agreements of 1977 and 1979, in efforts to reach a settlement, for which the goodwill of the Turkish side was necessary.

“Unfortunately I cannot say that we are close to a solution… in various aspects of the Cyprus problem there is a discord in the opinions expressed, while there are also issues which we have not managed to discuss adequately due to our differences. Nonetheless progress has been made but even this progress is less than we had expected,” he added.

The president said the current talks were proving difficult and that patience, realism and insistence on principles were necessary in order to reach a solution.

He reiterated he was struggling for a viable and functional solution, which would rid Cyprus of the Turkish occupation and settlers, reunify the territory, the people, the institutions and the economy, safeguard the human rights and fundamental freedoms of the whole of the people of Cyprus, promote peace, friendship and cooperation among Greek Cypriots and Turkish Cypriots, in the framework of a united federal republic, and create a demilitarised, truly independent EU member state, without guardians.

“I wish to assure you that we are not daunted by the difficulties in the negotiations,” he said, and added that the government was lobbying the international community in order for it to exert pressure on Turkey to change its stance on the Cyprus problem.

Referring to the global financial crisis, Christofias said the government has taken measures and promoted specific policies to manage the situation in Cyprus, adding that the joint effort of all political forces and social partners was necessary.

He assured that, despite the difficulties, the government would continue to promote its ambitious programme to enhance the welfare state, promote development and strengthen the economy.

[Piratis]

A BBF like the Annan plan is partition, with the added benefit for the Turks that it also gives them the control of the whole of Cyprus.

So if I had to choose between Annan plan partition or a "standard" kind of partition then I would choose the second.

However, there is also the third option, the status quo, which is the least harmful option and which will be maintained. (unless the Turks offer back enough land to entice us to accept a standard kind of partition - but it seems they are too greedy to do that)

[Piratis]

At last the GCs have finally been told what the real options are so they can now stop farting around thinking they can go back a unitary state, time to understand that Cyprus has chnaged forever and that its a partnership that is on offer or partition no other choices. Hard pill to swallow but it has to be done, reality always wins over illusion.

We have no illusions VP. Partition is what we have for the last 35 years. We will continue to keep the 100% of recognition of Cyprus and we will continue to prosper, and you can keep the partition, which will remain illegal, and continue to suffer the consequences. It is time that you also stop farting and see this reality and stop having illusions about recognition and legalization of your illegalities.

[Paphitis]

He does not seem to realise that the true meaning can only be found in the details of what exactly this BBF entails, and since I don't see any details, how on earth are we to make any judgement as to whether this BBF mentioned above is acceptable or not?

It's all in the details, so perhaps Bananiot can give us these details on what exactly this BBF entails!

Does the President and his advisors not understood it either?
Do they not see that there is no difference between BBF as negotiated and Partition like you and the rest of the bash patriots can.
Are they that stupid or are they just pretending?
What was TPapa doing when negotiating the agreement if he thought it would lead to partition?
Partitoin is what you are going to get if these negotiations fail by April, and it will be as is.
You can cry as much as you like after.

We've heard it all before I'm afraid..........

Good. They you will not be surprised when it kicks you up the ass after April.

First you said it will kick us up the arse by November, then November became December. then December became February, and February became April....

How about you just forget about your wet dreams and get a grip of reality, because recognition is an impossible dream that will always be beyond your reach!

Go to sleep dick head!

[Viewpoint]

At last the GCs have finally been told what the real options are so they can now stop farting around thinking they can go back a unitary state, time to understand that Cyprus has chnaged forever and that its a partnership that is on offer or partition no other choices. Hard pill to swallow but it has to be done, reality always wins over illusion.

We have no illusions VP. Partition is what we have for the last 35 years. We will continue to keep the 100% of recognition of Cyprus and we will continue to prosper, and you can keep the partition, which will remain illegal, and continue to suffer the consequences. It is time that you also stop farting and see this reality and stop having illusions about recognition and legalization of your illegalities.

Partition we have you are correct and recognition of this partition is indexed now to finding a solution with no agreement the EU and the world will not stand around and keep the north isolated forever, steps to ease restrictions in the north will follow whether you like it or not. So its time you realized that entering the EU will eventually will no mutually agreed solution in the future backfire in your faces as the EU will not tolerate a divided island tarnishing EU unity.

[paliometoxo]

this is all lies christophias never said any of these two options.. its turkish lies .. as you can see in my post even christophias says to IGNORE IT

maybe the turks think if they say christophias says something it must be true?

PRESIDENT Demetris Christofias said rumours regarding Cyprus problem solution scenarios should be ignored and that the island was nowhere near reaching such a solution.

[paliometoxo]

A BBF like the Annan plan is partition, with the added benefit for the Turks that it also gives them the control of the whole of Cyprus.

So if I had to choose between Annan plan partition or a "standard" kind of partition then I would choose the second.

However, there is also the third option, the status quo, which is the least harmful option and which will be maintained. (unless the Turks offer back enough land to entice us to accept a standard kind of partition - but it seems they are too greedy to do that)

im with you on this one.. if the turks took the partition down to 18% i would think about it...

but christophias is fighting for re unified land and he will nto accept partition in any form.. this thread is turkish lies to make the turks feel better or to scare gcs in thinking christophias will accept partition.. as you can see in my earlier post the news of what christophias says

[paliometoxo]

NICOSIA - President Christofias has warned that the dispute over a bizonal, bicommunal federation facilitate the division of the island.

Addressing the 16th Conference of the youth organization EDON, which was held here Saturday, President Christofias said, inter alia, that the solution of the Cyprus problem can be no other than a bizonal, bicommunal federation.

He stressed that this is a historic compromise and a big concession made by the Greek Cypriot community in order to end the Turkish occupation and settlement, adding that the solution of a bi-zonal, bi-communal federation is a necessity.

Christofias said that the bi-zonal, bi-communal federation is a solid basis for the achievement, under the circumstances, of a just, viable and functional solution, which will end the occupation and settlement and reunite the territory, the people, institutions and economy.

As he noted, the dilemma is clear: “it is either a federal solution or partition”, pointing out that ''the bi-zonal, bi-communal federation has been adopted by the United Nations, the European Union and other international organizations.

This type of solution, under these circumstances, he added, “it is our shield against those who aim at a partition of the island” and stressed that “we must protect this shield”.

He went on to say that “within the framework of a federal solution, human rights and the fundamental freedoms of all the people can be restored and secured and conditions for lasting peace and security can be established”.

He also assured that he would continue the titanic effort that he undertook since the first day he assumed office to reach a solution despite difficulties and problems with perseverance and consistency on the principles of the solution as well as with realism.

“The achievement of a solution is our vision”, he underlined.

Furthermore, he stressed that “we will continue the international campaign we have launched so as the international community to turn towards Turkey and demand from it to reconsider negative policies and confederation approaches and to work towards a solution which will serve the well-understood interest of our people”.