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[Oracle]

... .I have lost my country,60% to you and 40% to Turkey....Where are my gains??????
Where are my gains?????? where are my gains??????

See, this is why your thinking is flawed.

Why is 60% of the Island, which is freely, democratically governed according to EU guidelines for equality and respect of human rights, where so many other ethnic groups feel safe to come and live and work, suddenly lost to you just because you want to pretend it is only for GCs? (to suit your "oh woe is me, poor TC" attitude)

There are many TCs living in Paphos ... you can join them, but you choose NOT to because you secretly yearn for the unjust advantages you had (as an Ottoman ruler/privileged TC) which you perceive as your rights, now "lost".

You are a spoilt child, Bir! To the naughty step with you ...

[Paphitis]

BIR wrote:

Sorry to awaken you from your new year slumber,Piratis...

Best wishes to you and your loved -ones in 2010....

No point discussing anything with you or Oracle...You are so fixed on TCs wanting to justify their gains on your lossess etc etc...I am still waitng for you or Oracle to point out to me personally what I gained in this conflict...I have lost my country,60% to you and 40% to Turkey....Where are my gains??????
Where are my gains?????? where are my gains??????

So you obviously want unfair gains to the detriment of your fellow Cypriot Citizens universally accepted Human and democratic rights!

BIR you are the biggest fraud on the forum because the fact of the matter is this, the area under RoC control is never lost to any TC that wishes to live there as they are treated as EQUAL citizens, with EQUAL rights to everyone else, but this is not enough for you which is why you are crying foul like a little child.

BIR, you are the biggest fraud here...

[boomerang]

from all the postings bir has posted one can safely assume, masters in the north and partners in the south...sorry bir but your insistence on "poor me" leaves me no other alternative...

PS...President X has apologised, but talat stayed quite...

[BirKibrisli]

Sorry to awaken you from your new year slumber,Piratis...

Best wishes to you and your loved -ones in 2010....

No point discussing anything with you or Oracle...You are so fixed on TCs wanting to justify their gains on your lossess etc etc...I am still waitng for you or Oracle to point out to me personally what I gained in this conflict...I have lost my country,60% to you and 40% to Turkey....Where are my gains??????
Where are my gains?????? where are my gains??????

Best wishes to you too Bir

Gains were those that were given to the TCs with the 1960 agreements, such as 30% of the civil servant positions. And the Turkish side today demands even more gains on our expense, such as 30% of the land and 50% of the power. All these for the 18% of the population.

The lesson you should have learned is that by being greedy and trying to gain too much for yourselves you are provoking the majority of the population and you end up having way less than what you were hoping for.

If you continue acting in this way then you will continue asking "Where are my gains?". Just accept that you can not have any gains on our expense, and that the only solution is to have equal citizens without racist discrimination and that as a community you can have your fair share in land, power etc, which is proportional to your population.

There is no point in looking back in history trying to find excuses to impose in Cyprus something which is not fair. History does NOT give such excuse to you. The sooner you accept this the better for all.

But Piratis,those gains (if they were so) were lost in 1963...Between 1963 and 74 the Tcs were truly endangered species,given the mushroom treatment by the GCs (KEPT IN THE DARK AND FED ON BULLSHIT)...aND YOU NOW ADD INSULT TO INJURY BY REFUSING TO ACKNOWLEDGE OUR PLIGHT...I keep going back to he couple analogy,because you are chosing to ignore that too...If you blame the weaker partner for everything,show no understanding or remorse,refuse to go to counselling together to solve your problems,no amount of vague talk about democracy and human rights will be enough for the estranged partner to trust the other again....I am starting to think that this is your strategy to prevent any solution...You really do not want reunification,you prefer Partition...all you want is to get the maximum share of the land plus compensation by crying faul play,and turning a blind eye to the past events...
You wouldn't be talking about democracy or human rights had 74 never happened and the TCs were still huddled in their chicken pens waiting for someone to acknowledge their plight...We would all die waiting(if Sampson didnt kill us first) and you wouldnt give a damn...

[BirKibrisli]

... .I have lost my country,60% to you and 40% to Turkey....Where are my gains??????
Where are my gains?????? where are my gains??????

See, this is why your thinking is flawed.

Why is 60% of the Island, which is freely, democratically governed according to EU guidelines for equality and respect of human rights, where so many other ethnic groups feel safe to come and live and work, suddenly lost to you just because you want to pretend it is only for GCs? (to suit your "oh woe is me, poor TC" attitude)

There are many TCs living in Paphos ... you can join them, but you choose NOT to because you secretly yearn for the unjust advantages you had (as an Ottoman ruler/privileged TC) which you perceive as your rights, now "lost".

You are a spoilt child, Bir! To the naughty step with you ...

There you go again,Oracle...Denial of the past,over generalisations,mind reading,furtune telling.... all serious cognitive distortions associated with PTSD...I repeat my plea to you...Get some professional help,letting off steam on this forum is no subtitute for therapy...

[BirKibrisli]

BIR wrote:

Sorry to awaken you from your new year slumber,Piratis...

Best wishes to you and your loved -ones in 2010....

No point discussing anything with you or Oracle...You are so fixed on TCs wanting to justify their gains on your lossess etc etc...I am still waitng for you or Oracle to point out to me personally what I gained in this conflict...I have lost my country,60% to you and 40% to Turkey....Where are my gains??????
Where are my gains?????? where are my gains??????

So you obviously want unfair gains to the detriment of your fellow Cypriot Citizens universally accepted Human and democratic rights!

BIR you are the biggest fraud on the forum because the fact of the matter is this, the area under RoC control is never lost to any TC that wishes to live there as they are treated as EQUAL citizens, with EQUAL rights to everyone else, but this is not enough for you which is why you are crying foul like a little child.

BIR, you are the biggest fraud here...

All empty words,Paphidis...You cannot wipe away past traumatic emotional scars by telling the victims to forget about it,it didnt happen anyway,all in your mind....This is becoming a joke...It must be the offficial GC policy,deny everything,keep crying faul play in order to get the maximum amount of land and compensation for your future confederation state,because you do not want any other solution other than Partition...keep going this way and your wishes will be reality...

[BirKibrisli]

from all the postings bir has posted one can safely assume, masters in the north and partners in the south...sorry bir but your insistence on "poor me" leaves me no other alternative...

PS...President X has apologised, but talat stayed quite...

Talat stayed quiet because he was told to stay quiet...We are Poor cousins in the North and despised minority in the South...The game is up...Now I know you are all acting in unison to achieve your aim of Partition,but with maximum land and compensation for the GCs...

[Oracle]

... .I have lost my country,60% to you and 40% to Turkey....Where are my gains??????
Where are my gains?????? where are my gains??????

See, this is why your thinking is flawed.

Why is 60% of the Island, which is freely, democratically governed according to EU guidelines for equality and respect of human rights, where so many other ethnic groups feel safe to come and live and work, suddenly lost to you just because you want to pretend it is only for GCs? (to suit your "oh woe is me, poor TC" attitude)

There are many TCs living in Paphos ... you can join them, but you choose NOT to because you secretly yearn for the unjust advantages you had (as an Ottoman ruler/privileged TC) which you perceive as your rights, now "lost".

You are a spoilt child, Bir! To the naughty step with you ...

There you go again,Oracle...Denial of the past,over generalisations,mind reading,furtune telling.... all serious cognitive distortions associated with PTSD...I repeat my plea to you...Get some professional help,letting off steam on this forum is no subtitute for therapy...

None of the above fit with anything I have said. You are not even bothering to read.

If that is your serious answer, than you are not worth debating with as you fail to see the flaws in your "logic".

But, what could I expect .....

[BirKibrisli]

... .I have lost my country,60% to you and 40% to Turkey....Where are my gains??????
Where are my gains?????? where are my gains??????

See, this is why your thinking is flawed.

Why is 60% of the Island, which is freely, democratically governed according to EU guidelines for equality and respect of human rights, where so many other ethnic groups feel safe to come and live and work, suddenly lost to you just because you want to pretend it is only for GCs? (to suit your "oh woe is me, poor TC" attitude)

There are many TCs living in Paphos ... you can join them, but you choose NOT to because you secretly yearn for the unjust advantages you had (as an Ottoman ruler/privileged TC) which you perceive as your rights, now "lost".

You are a spoilt child, Bir! To the naughty step with you ...

There you go again,Oracle...Denial of the past,over generalisations,mind reading,furtune telling.... all serious cognitive distortions associated with PTSD...I repeat my plea to you...Get some professional help,letting off steam on this forum is no subtitute for therapy...

None of the above fit with anything I have said. You are not even bothering to read.

If that is your serious answer, than you are not worth debating with as you fail to see the flaws in your "logic".

But, what could I expect .....

just because you want to pretend it is only for GCs?

This is mind reading...

(to suit your "oh woe is me, poor TC" attitude)

This is overgeneralisation...

but you choose NOT to because you secretly yearn for the unjust advantages you had (as an Ottoman ruler/privileged TC) which you perceive as your rights, now "lost".

This is mind reading and fortune telling...

democratically governed according to EU guidelines for equality and respect of human rights, where so many other ethnic groups feel safe to come and live and work

This is denial of the past events...

all serious cognitive distortions..i kid you not...

[Oracle]

... .I have lost my country,60% to you and 40% to Turkey....Where are my gains??????
Where are my gains?????? where are my gains??????

See, this is why your thinking is flawed.

Why is 60% of the Island, which is freely, democratically governed according to EU guidelines for equality and respect of human rights, where so many other ethnic groups feel safe to come and live and work, suddenly lost to you just because you want to pretend it is only for GCs? (to suit your "oh woe is me, poor TC" attitude)

There are many TCs living in Paphos ... you can join them, but you choose NOT to because you secretly yearn for the unjust advantages you had (as an Ottoman ruler/privileged TC) which you perceive as your rights, now "lost".

You are a spoilt child, Bir! To the naughty step with you ...

There you go again,Oracle...Denial of the past,over generalisations,mind reading,furtune telling.... all serious cognitive distortions associated with PTSD...I repeat my plea to you...Get some professional help,letting off steam on this forum is no subtitute for therapy...

None of the above fit with anything I have said. You are not even bothering to read.

If that is your serious answer, than you are not worth debating with as you fail to see the flaws in your "logic".

But, what could I expect .....

just because you want to pretend it is only for GCs?

This is mind reading...

Nope you said:

I have lost my country,60% to you

You are clearly accusing the (60%) of the RoC as only representing GCs. That is wrong!

This is overgeneralisation...

but you choose NOT to because you secretly yearn for the unjust advantages you had (as an Ottoman ruler/privileged TC) which you perceive as your rights, now "lost".

But it is the very backbone of your demands for GAINS.

Where are my gains??????
Where are my gains?????? where are my gains??????

democratically governed according to EU guidelines for equality and respect of human rights, where so many other ethnic groups feel safe to come and live and work

This is denial of the past events...

Why are present day facts of how people live in Cyprus, a denial of "past events"?

all serious cognitive distortions..i kid you not...

It is a common practice of lunatics to ascribe the same affliction to others. If you are so seriously affected as you constantly imply, please take a rest!